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Postby DT. » Sat Mar 13, 2010 1:21 am

only me wrote:miltiades ? why do you say just the six years before 1974. Sorry I'll answer, your question: very few Turkish Cypriots died in those six years ......happy miltiades ? WHY because they where in enclaves covering 3% of the Ilsland having previously covered and OWNED 30%.. However between 1959 and 1968 thousands died or escaped to the UK, Australia, Canada.
beware miltiades they have returned and/or there children. The turkish Cypriots are not the same as they where when your lot overran them in the 60's.


can you prove that the enclaves were 3% of the island?
I'm also interested on hearing about the 1000's of TC's that died!!!
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Postby runaway » Sat Mar 13, 2010 1:22 am

YFred wrote:
only me wrote:HI YFred,
Thanks for the info on Oracle...............is she really like her picture!!!!

You mean one eyed? yep. :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
Only joking. Deniz knows her, perhaps he could enlighten us.



Actually O.rospu loves her avatar. Why wouldn't she? She pasted the photo of a 40 yo younger lady there.
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Postby Piratis » Sat Mar 13, 2010 1:25 am

DT. wrote:
only me wrote:miltiades ? why do you say just the six years before 1974. Sorry I'll answer, your question: very few Turkish Cypriots died in those six years ......happy miltiades ? WHY because they where in enclaves covering 3% of the Ilsland having previously covered and OWNED 30%.. However between 1959 and 1968 thousands died or escaped to the UK, Australia, Canada.
beware miltiades they have returned and/or there children. The turkish Cypriots are not the same as they where when your lot overran them in the 60's.


can you prove that the enclaves were 3% of the island?
I'm also interested on hearing about the 1000's of TC's that died!!!


He should also prove that the 18% of TCs were the rich landlords of Cyprus who owned the 30% of the land.

His post is a lie from start to end.
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Postby DT. » Sat Mar 13, 2010 1:28 am

Piratis wrote:
DT. wrote:
only me wrote:miltiades ? why do you say just the six years before 1974. Sorry I'll answer, your question: very few Turkish Cypriots died in those six years ......happy miltiades ? WHY because they where in enclaves covering 3% of the Ilsland having previously covered and OWNED 30%.. However between 1959 and 1968 thousands died or escaped to the UK, Australia, Canada.
beware miltiades they have returned and/or there children. The turkish Cypriots are not the same as they where when your lot overran them in the 60's.


can you prove that the enclaves were 3% of the island?
I'm also interested on hearing about the 1000's of TC's that died!!!


He should also prove that the 18% of TCs were the rich landlords of Cyprus who owned the 30% of the land.

His post is a lie from start to end.


i don't think we'll get a response.
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Postby DTA » Sat Mar 13, 2010 1:33 am

Piratis wrote:
DT. wrote:
only me wrote:miltiades ? why do you say just the six years before 1974. Sorry I'll answer, your question: very few Turkish Cypriots died in those six years ......happy miltiades ? WHY because they where in enclaves covering 3% of the Ilsland having previously covered and OWNED 30%.. However between 1959 and 1968 thousands died or escaped to the UK, Australia, Canada.
beware miltiades they have returned and/or there children. The turkish Cypriots are not the same as they where when your lot overran them in the 60's.


can you prove that the enclaves were 3% of the island?
I'm also interested on hearing about the 1000's of TC's that died!!!


He should also prove that the 18% of TCs were the rich landlords of Cyprus who owned the 30% of the land.

His post is a lie from start to end.


Can you prove it was the Tcs that started the conflict, credable link please.
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Postby Piratis » Sat Mar 13, 2010 7:19 am

I gave you more than just a link. I gave you a video.

The TCs attacked GCs and started burning the shops and homes of innocent people on the 7th of June 1958. A few days later, on the 12th of June 1958, innocent GCs were massacred near Gyonelly.

This was the first time that people were attacked and murdered just because of their ethnicity, and these are the events which started the inter-communal conflict.

But since you like links, here is a good one:

In the event, it was Turkey that took the first practical steps. In June 1958, repeating the operation in Salonica, its intelligence agents set off an explosion in the Turkish Information Office in Nicosia. Once again, a fabricated outrage – no one was actually hurt – was the signal for orchestrated mob violence against Greeks. Security forces stood by as houses were set on fire and people killed, in the first major communal clashes since the Emergency was declared. The upshot, clearly planned in advance, was the eviction of Greeks from Turkish areas in Nicosia and other cities, and the seizure of municipal facilities, to create self-contained Turkish enclaves: piecemeal partition, on the ground. Its organisers could be sure of British complaisance. The day before the rampage – Harding was now out of it – the new governor, Labour’s future Lord Caradon, had assured its leaders that the Turkish community would enjoy ‘a specially favoured and specially protected state’ under future British arrangements. A few months later, the colonial secretary was publicly referring to Cyprus as ‘an offshore Turkish island’.

http://www.lrb.co.uk/v30/n08/perry-ande ... -of-cyprus
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Postby miltiades » Sat Mar 13, 2010 9:25 am

DTA wrote:
miltiades wrote:
only me wrote:miltiades READ WHAT I SAY.

You must be pissed or drugged up as you are not reading what I am saying.
I am aware people where dying before the 1974 intervention but the 60's where the worst. MORE TC's died in JULY 1974 AFTER the intervention. Which is why a second burst happened in AUGUST. PLEASE READ and you will realise what I AM SAYING

You are aware of nothing . You are a woman , and a very stupid one at that .How do I know that you are a female !!
The invasion caused the death of over 5 thousand Cypriots , tens of thousands displaced , fools like you were responsible for their deaths .
I have no time with fools like you , fools from both sides of the divide that over the years I challenged.
Listen stupid. Extremists , brainwashed zombies caused the death of thousands , idiots like you who know fuck all of what went on should shut up and not fart as you do .
GODNIGHT AND FART WELL STUPID !


What does her being a woman have to do with anything???????

the bolded words would hold much more weight if you challenged the views of people like ORACLE B25 and get real or even pratis in this very thread, as well as her, but i dont see you doing that.

Over the years on this forum I challenged dozens of bloody fantics , most them have been G/C extremists , everyone on this forum knows full welll where I stand.
The extremist were responsible for the conflict , EOKAB , The Grey Wolves , the motherland bullshitters , the Turkish mainland bloody flag and the the Greek mainland rug.
Now and then along comes a pea brained individual , in this instance this female , to tell us , hey chaps you can not live together because the G/Cs murdered thousands of T/Cs.. Such rubbish can only be challenged with the same method used in flashing shit down the toilet. I'm sick and tired of idiots coming on the forum armed with one only brain cell and talking shit.
May I suggest that this bloody woman gets hold of a book by Sevgul Uludag , "Oysters with the missing pearls " perhaps she might learn something the stupid Plonker !!Thousands killed indeed my arse!
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Postby only me » Sat Mar 13, 2010 10:53 am

Piratis, what is so sad is, that you actually believe what you have written.
Any independent history book or notes of the time will tell you that what you have been told is utter lies. I have had this conversation put to me so many times and when the other party (often a British citizen) actually studies real history they are staggered at the truth. A Greek Cypriot History book in school has very few pages for the period 1960 to 1974 yet independent books have many chapters.............I wonder why. As I said before nobody is in denial that Greek Cypriots died in 1974, but as with all other GC's you certainly are in denial (or don't know) about the murderous events of the 60's particularly 1963. I will post no further comment as I know you won't accept the FACTS unless you take an independent view.I too at one time hated everything the North stood for, but managed to study the subject and it opened my eyes along with many others.
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Postby Acikgoz » Sat Mar 13, 2010 11:34 am

only me,
To even suggest Pipi "doesn't know" is just too naive. Look at the number of posts - 10,000 in 6 years - we're talking about on average posting more than 4 messages a day 7 days a week for a full 6 years. People like him, Get real & Oracle (20,000) are so aware of the facts but CHOOSE to play the win-lose game with all the collateral damage inbetween.
Note how those with the largest posts are the most polar in their views. Would that suggest that dialogue between Turkish and Greek Cypriots promotes understanding, compromise and acceptance? Obviously not.
Long live the partition and only change at such a time when people can show their humanity and respect for all cultures and religions.
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Postby EricSeans » Sat Mar 13, 2010 12:27 pm

only me wrote:Piratis, what is so sad is, that you actually believe what you have written.
Any independent history book or notes of the time will tell you that what you have been told is utter lies. I have had this conversation put to me so many times and when the other party (often a British citizen) actually studies real history they are staggered at the truth. A Greek Cypriot History book in school has very few pages for the period 1960 to 1974 yet independent books have many chapters.............I wonder why. As I said before nobody is in denial that Greek Cypriots died in 1974, but as with all other GC's you certainly are in denial (or don't know) about the murderous events of the 60's particularly 1963. I will post no further comment as I know you won't accept the FACTS unless you take an independent view.I too at one time hated everything the North stood for, but managed to study the subject and it opened my eyes along with many others.


In that case quote the texts and references to back up your incredible claims. Without evidence your comments are worthless. Quoting the Genocide Files will reduce your credibility even further.
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