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[georgios100]

I am in favor of removing the 2 British military bases from Cyprus. This concept should be part of the Cyprob solution. Cyprus made a mistake when entering the EU. Here is part of the Accession Treaty ;

Protocol No 3 on the Sovereign Base Areas of the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland in Cyprus

[i]The Accession Treaty which the Republic of Cyprus signed with the European Union shall not apply to the British Sovereign Bases in Cyprus, except to the extent necessary to ensure the implementation of agreed arrangements.
These arrangements relate to the conditions of accession of the Republic of Cyprus and another nine countries, who signed the Accession Treaty with the EU.
The Protocol on the British Bases in Cyprus stipulates that the arrangements provided for in this Protocol shall have the sole purpose of regulating the particular situation of the Sovereign Base Areas of the United Kingdom in Cyprus and shall not apply to any other territory of the Community, nor serve as a precedent, whole or in part, for any other special arrangements which either already exist or which might be set up in another European territory provided for in Article 299 of the Treaty.
According to the Protocol persons resident or employed in the territory of the Sovereign Base Areas, who are subject to the social security legislation of the Republic of Cyprus, shall be treated as if they were resident or employed in the territory of the Republic of Cyprus.
The Protocol notes that the Republic of Cyprus shall not be required to carry out checks on persons crossing their land and sea boundaries with the Sovereign Base Areas and any Community restrictions on the crossing of external borders shall not apply in relation to such persons and the United Kingdom shall exercise controls on persons crossing the external borders of the Sovereign Base Areas.
Link http://www.cyprus.gov.cy/MOI/pio/pio.ns ... enDocument
[/i]

Provided the solution is found and agreed upon, the 1960 agreements are null and void, therefor the bases must clear off.

It is paranoid to believe that EU will allow one of it's members (UK) to maintain military bases at another EU member(CY). This is a clear violation of EU standards and must be enforced immediately upon signing the solution of the Cyprus problem. As a matter of fact, the removal of the bases should be included into the current talks and implemented into the negotiated solution. The bases ( relic of the colonians) are not in the best interest of RoC and should be considered a threat of the secutity of the island.

Georgios100

[DT.]

It is paranoid to believe that EU will allow one of it's members (UK) to maintain military bases at another EU member(CY). This is a clear violation of EU standards and must be enforced immediately upon signing the solution of the Cyprus problem. As a matter of fact, the removal of the bases should be included into the current talks and implemented into the negotiated solution. The bases ( relic of the colonians) are not in the best interest of RoC and should be considered a threat of the secutity of the island.

Georgios100

agree with you regarding the removal of the bases mate but I believe this approach

It is paranoid to believe that EU will allow one of it's members (UK) to maintain military bases at another EU[/b] member(CY)[/color]. This is a clear violation of EU standards and must be enforced immediately upon signing the solution of the Cyprus problem

is a wrong one. Otherwise Angela Merkel would have kicked out the British bases in Germany ages ago.

[miltiades]

George , I dont want to be rude to you mate but I guess I just have to !!
Listen to this boy and digest fully what I'm telling you.
Entering the EU was by far the most historically successful event in the entire history of the island of Cyprus .

[paliometoxo]

hes right re giwrgo

[georgios100]

George , I dont want to be rude to you mate but I guess I just have to !!
Listen to this boy and digest fully what I'm telling you.
Entering the EU was by far the most historically successful event in the entire history of the island of Cyprus .

I agree with you 100%. Cyprus entry into the EU is absolutely a great success.

What I am trying to say is that Cyprus should have had a clause stipulated (prior to entering the EU) allowing for removal of the bases as soon as the solution is found. When reading the protocol, one can see that the bases shall remain for ever, regardless if there is a solution or not.

This is the mistake I am referring to, that clause is missing!

As far as the British/American bases in Germany, a totally different scenario there, Germany is still under "probation". The allied forces are there to monitor the situation after the war.

[Get Real!]

I think in light of the recent ECHR decision, the alleged “European values” are seriously in question…

[YFred]

I think in light of the recent ECHR decision, the alleged “European values” are seriously in question…

What? these are the eu values. What's the matter with you.
Do you remember the compromise recently before the Lisbon treaty was signed for the Czech republic?
That just bit you in the bum
And there is plenty more where that came from

Peace Treaty is the answer my friends.

[paaul12]

Dear o dear, o dear,

It looks like everything is going so so wrong, you poor little GC’s all the horrible people in the whole wide world are against you, and that very very naughty EU how could they have tricked you, they are so naughty, what were they thinking off!!!

Still have a read of some of your “orams” posts I am sure that will cheer you all up and you will feel better in the morning, but the judgment will still be there, o, my god, it’s a nighmare

[Malapapa]

Dear o dear, o dear,

It looks like everything is going so so wrong, you poor little GC’s all the horrible people in the whole wide world are against you, and that very very naughty EU how could they have tricked you, they are so naughty, what were they thinking off!!!

You don't know what you're talking about. The Council of Europe is not the EU. Get your facts right before coming here to gloat because your ignorance opens you up for richly deserved return derision.

Still have a read of some of your “orams” posts I am sure that will cheer you all up and you will feel better in the morning, but the judgment will still be there, o, my god, it’s a nighmare

Your presence on Cyprus has proved to be nothing but a nightmare for the islanders - for centuries. And the nightmare continues.

[georgios100]

It is paranoid to believe that EU will allow one of it's members (UK) to maintain military bases at another EU member(CY). This is a clear violation of EU standards and must be enforced immediately upon signing the solution of the Cyprus problem. As a matter of fact, the removal of the bases should be included into the current talks and implemented into the negotiated solution. The bases ( relic of the colonians) are not in the best interest of RoC and should be considered a threat of the secutity of the island.

Georgios100

agree with you regarding the removal of the bases mate but I believe this approach

It is paranoid to believe that EU will allow one of it's members (UK) to maintain military bases at another EU[/b] member(CY)[/color]. This is a clear violation of EU standards and must be enforced immediately upon signing the solution of the Cyprus problem

is a wrong one. Otherwise Angela Merkel would have kicked out the British bases in Germany ages ago.

Seriously DT, I just can't think of a reason as to why these bases should remain in Cyprus. Is it in the best interest of RoC to keep the bases? Is there any Cypriots who would like the bases to stay as they are? Why?

The British want to maintain the bases for strategic reasons for controlling/monitoring the Middle East? Similar control at Gibraltar?

Georgios100