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[Milo]

Going back to wether the British bases must go, Yes of course, the UK should give the bases back but without the title deeds and a huge bank loan on the land - well that is the way its done out here is,nt it?

[georgios100]

Bermuda is actually Britains oldest colony (1612) and can therefore be said to have benefitted from British influence the most. In 2005 it had the highest GDP per capita in the world with not a drop of oil or sniff of gas to its name.

These figures don't mean that much anyhow. I lived in Qatar, which has a sky high per capita GDP. All this means is that the ruling clan in this oil and gas rich feudal sheikhdom is super rich. Ordinary Qataris do not go hungry or unhoused, but that is about as much as you can say.

Well according to gergios100 they mean quite a lot.
He said:
"If the Brits cleared off totally from Cyprus in 1960 and the 1974 war never happened, Cyprus standard of living would have been much higher than any country in Europe."
God knows what he bases that on.

He also said:
"The Brits were an obstacle not aid in Cyprus development. I know of a dozen countries that did very well without any Brits around."

And I have just pointed out that Bermuda has had nearly 400 years of British rule and influence and is a much smaller island than Cyprus with a tiny population, in comparison.

Gerorgios100 knows of "a dozen countries that did very well without any Brits around."
I know a few countries that did very well out of the Brits: Canada, USA, Australia, New Zealand, Hong Kong, Singapore.......

Surely no need to mention Sweden, Denmark, Belgium, Finland, Spain, Italy etc. Bermuda was a bad example.

The essence of the discussion here is that countries free from occupiers or oppressed forces can do well. The British element played some role but without it things could be better of course.

To my fellow Brits, I say, with or without you, life goes on. The civilization shall continue to advance regardless if the Brits are around or not. My motto is always "nobody is irreplaceable, starting from myself"

The British colonial period in history is completed. It's time to move on and erase any traces of this period by removing the SBAs for good.

As I said before, nothing personal about the Brits who retired or live permanently in Cyprus. You are welcome equally like other nationals moved and invested here.

My problem is with the MOD leadership.

Get out of Cyprus ASAP.

Georgios100

[apc2010]

What about Batus???

[Acikgoz]

Milo very amusing, topical comment.

[bsharpish]

Going back to wether the British bases must go, Yes of course, the UK should give the bases back but without the title deeds and a huge bank loan on the land - well that is the way its done out here is,nt it?

LMAO .............. but you missed off the note to be left on the base gates -

Please ring my cousin for keys as the pontians have stolen my phone

[vaughanwilliams]

Going back to wether the British bases must go, Yes of course, the UK should give the bases back but without the title deeds and a huge bank loan on the land - well that is the way its done out here is,nt it?

Brilliant.

[Gasman]

Going back to wether the British bases must go, Yes of course, the UK should give the bases back but without the title deeds and a huge bank loan on the land - well that is the way its done out here is,nt it?

Spot on! Brilliant!

You forgot to mention that the UK would also insist that ALL their outstanding and unpaid taxes, sewage bills, and waddever would have to be paid for them before they could even THINK of handing anything over!

Coz that's 'just how it is in Cyprus'.

[B25]

Going back to wether the British bases must go, Yes of course, the UK should give the bases back but without the title deeds and a huge bank loan on the land - well that is the way its done out here is,nt it?

In actual fact the British DON'T hold the title deeds mearly the contract. perhaps we should charge them the cancellation charge, IPT and any other outstanding amounts before we cancel their contract and give the land BACK to its rightfull owners.

Similarly to the Turks, just because you can hold onto something by force, does not make it leaglly yours, even the ECJ has said this as well as the Royal courts.

I think you and your fellow smirking brits need to take those smiles and .... well you know what you can do with them.

Whats even funnier is when you got cheapskate carpetbaggers chipping in when they themselves are living and tresspassing in stolen GC properties.

Now thats how its done here, isn't it???

[Milo]

Going back to wether the British bases must go, Yes of course, the UK should give the bases back but without the title deeds and a huge bank loan on the land - well that is the way its done out here is,nt it?

In actual fact the British DON'T hold the title deeds mearly the contract. perhaps we should charge them the cancellation charge, IPT and any other outstanding amounts before we cancel their contract and give the land BACK to its rightfull owners.

Similarly to the Turks, just because you can hold onto something by force, does not make it leaglly yours, even the ECJ has said this as well as the Royal courts.

I think you and your fellow smirking brits need to take those smiles and .... well you know what you can do with them.

Whats even funnier is when you got cheapskate carpetbaggers chipping in when they themselves are living and tresspassing in stolen GC properties.

Now thats how its done here, isn't it???

What do you mean should charge for cancellation fees sewerage IPT, CGT,s etc that is a GIVEN here. New stuff appearing now is Developers upping maintenance charges of €50k a year for an apartment block and not actually doing the maintenance IF you don,t sign up for this extortionate amount then no keys handed over on completion. Court system backed up by 3-4 years so no quick restitution.

I,m not actually smirking I thought it was quite a smart remark tongue in cheek, but your stupid reply made me rethink, and although I really DON,T believe the SBA,s should be here for many reasons, and I actually believe they will be going because of cost and embarassment to the UK, so no brainer really, but if you still think that thousands and thousands have,nt been shat on from a great hieght when they bought here in the firm belief they were dealing with honest people, with legal practices and systems in place then maybe you can follow the cynicism a bit.

Thinking about it now after my tongue in cheek remark and your reply a bit of payback regarding the bases would,nt go amiss and seen as we are all stuck here (not me personally) unable to sell because of the recession but even more so because now most cannot sell UNLESS some tart/dick of a Developer allows you to and then some unethical bank NOW says after years of double mortgaging 'Oh no can,t give a mortgage WITHOUT deeds'. Then yes my friend IF we can get the SBA,s to crack a deal before they leave, like no Deeds for 20 odd years etc I along with tens of thousands of others WHO would not have normally given a flying F*** about the bases leaving would smirk my head off. I think the islands treatment of foriegn buyers has been well documented and once the recession is passed I think along with the bases, many will give you your wish.


The north is not for me to discuss but the Developers at least along with the Lawyers seem to be very similar in practice, it must be the water

[B25]

Going back to wether the British bases must go, Yes of course, the UK should give the bases back but without the title deeds and a huge bank loan on the land - well that is the way its done out here is,nt it?

In actual fact the British DON'T hold the title deeds mearly the contract. perhaps we should charge them the cancellation charge, IPT and any other outstanding amounts before we cancel their contract and give the land BACK to its rightfull owners.

Similarly to the Turks, just because you can hold onto something by force, does not make it leaglly yours, even the ECJ has said this as well as the Royal courts.

I think you and your fellow smirking brits need to take those smiles and .... well you know what you can do with them.

Whats even funnier is when you got cheapskate carpetbaggers chipping in when they themselves are living and tresspassing in stolen GC properties.

Now thats how its done here, isn't it???

What do you mean should charge for cancellation fees sewerage IPT, CGT,s etc that is a GIVEN here. New stuff appearing now is Developers upping maintenance charges of €50k a year for an apartment block and not actually doing the maintenance IF you don,t sign up for this extortionate amount then no keys handed over on completion. Court system backed up by 3-4 years so no quick restitution.

I,m not actually smirking I thought it was quite a smart remark tongue in cheek, but your stupid reply made me rethink, and although I really DON,T believe the SBA,s should be here for many reasons, and I actually believe they will be going because of cost and embarassment to the UK, so no brainer really, but if you still think that thousands and thousands have,nt been shat on from a great hieght when they bought here in the firm belief they were dealing with honest people, with legal practices and systems in place then maybe you can follow the cynicism a bit.

Thinking about it now after my tongue in cheek remark and your reply a bit of payback regarding the bases would,nt go amiss and seen as we are all stuck here (not me personally) unable to sell because of the recession but even more so because now most cannot sell UNLESS some tart/dick of a Developer allows you to and then some unethical bank NOW says after years of double mortgaging 'Oh no can,t give a mortgage WITHOUT deeds'. Then yes my friend IF we can get the SBA,s to crack a deal before they leave, like no Deeds for 20 odd years etc I along with tens of thousands of others WHO would not have normally given a flying F*** about the bases leaving would smirk my head off. I think the islands treatment of foriegn buyers has been well documented and once the recession is passed I think along with the bases, many will give you your wish.


The north is not for me to discuss but the Developers at least along with the Lawyers seem to be very similar in practice, it must be the water

madam, if you want to have another dig at developers and the title deeds situation I suggest you start your own thread on that and not go off on one on the subject of SBAs.

You obviously have a massive chip on your should and use any excuse to blast these people. I never said people have not been shat upon, so don't get your knickers in a twist. You keep going on about how it doesn't affect you, yet your voice is the loudest, get a grip woman.