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[RichardB]

I've also heard that US, nor UK nor Russia want to alienate Turkey (not just because of Tehran, but also re future Trade possibilities) - I don't have an official document from any of those Govts to prove that. But I don't find it impossible to believe that there is a certain amount of truth in that.

I have heard that the moon is made of cheese

I have also heard that chemists and physicians have found another 92 elements

I have heard that the TCs are all going to vote EDEK in the next election

Can I give you an official source NO

So I guess the forum is just going to have to believe me

[YFred]

I've also heard that US, nor UK nor Russia want to alienate Turkey (not just because of Tehran, but also re future Trade possibilities) - I don't have an official document from any of those Govts to prove that. But I don't find it impossible to believe that there is a certain amount of truth in that.

I have heard that the moon is made of cheese

I have also heard that chemists and physicians have found another 92 elements

I have heard that the TCs are all going to vote EDEK in the next election

Can I give you an official source NO

So I guess the forum is just going to have to believe me

There are those who understand the world and how it works and the treand its going towards and those who have not got a clue. The trick is recognising who is which?

[Malapapa]

So you have never, ever, heard it said that the EU made a blunder admitting Cyprus before they resolved the 'problem'?

The only way the problem was going to be resolved was if the foreign army illegally parked in the north was kicked out. Was it a blunder that the EU didn't do this before admitting Cyprus do you think?

In case I am alone in having heard this, I have just googled it.

Lots of results (I will ignore those from any sources that will be rubbished as being 'Turkish') - here is a quite recent one of them from 'The Economist' - I said I used to hear this in London, this article says:

It is equally common to hear in Brussels that the European Union made a terrible mistake in admitting Cyprus as a full member in 2004, but as a divided island

http://www.economist.com/blogs/charlemagne/2009/09/tough_love_for_cyprus

Is 'The Economist' advocating that the EU should have gone to war with Turkey to ensure a united Cyprus acceded, do you think? Or is 'The Economist' advocating that Turkey should have been allowed to hold the whole of Cyprus hostage in perpetuity? Or is 'The Economist' advocating that free Cypriots should have accepted compromises to their rights and freedoms which 'The Economist' journalists would never, ever have countenanced themselves?

So, obviously, it is not just me that has heard this! I am not passing judgement on whether it is justified or not, I was just repeating what I had heard back then.

If ever you hear this again, perhaps you'll now have the knowledge to counter such misinformation; like Cypriots did - and still have to...

[Malapapa]

I have also heard some say that certain EU member states were happy to have Cyprus admitted with the island divided as it provided the perfect tool to 'block Turkey' with the RoC veto. Again, I couldn't possibly comment on whether that is true - but I can tell you I have heard it said. I am not bloody making it up!

It's fair to say Turkey, for all sorts of reasons, is not the most popular country with people in certain EU member states – not just Cyprus, by any means.

[Acikgoz]

The Economist, to quote them:
First published in 1843 to take part in "a severe contest between intelligence, which presses forward, and an unworthy, timid ignorance obstructing our progress".

My word, I could not have put it better when thinking of all those idiots that post on this site who choose obstruction over progress. I subscribe and have done so for many years.

[Malapapa]

The Economist, to quote them:
First published in 1843 to take part in "a severe contest between intelligence, which presses forward, and an unworthy, timid ignorance obstructing our progress".

My word, I could not have put it better when thinking of all those idiots that post on this site who choose obstruction over progress. I subscribe and have done so for many years.

Do you also subscribe to Turkey's continued, anachronistic right to intervene in Cyprus? As we're talking unworthy, timid ignorance obstructing our progress.

[Acikgoz]

Erm Mala, still awaiting the bombshell you were going to drop on me on the other thread.

Note, it is the TC side that have been looking to increase the dialogue. TC side that agreed to the most comprehensive settlement on the island. TC side that offered an olive branch on winning a huge court decision. TC side that has set up a court mechanism to provide restitution/compensation for property. Looking for what the GC side has done for TCs.

Little jibes like that carry as much weight as wyoming's brain.

[DT.]

Erm Mala, still awaiting the bombshell you were going to drop on me on the other thread.

Note, it is the TC side that have been looking to increase the dialogue. TC side that agreed to the most comprehensive settlement on the island. TC side that offered an olive branch on winning a huge court decision. TC side that has set up a court mechanism to provide restitution/compensation for property. Looking for what the GC side has done for TCs.

Little jibes like that carry as much weight as wyoming's brain.

It is the GC side that offered rotating Presidency without anything in return, it is the GC side that offered 50,000 settlers remaining with nothing in return. It is the 82% majority GC side that has accepted a bizonal bicommunal federation with the 18% minority.

It is the Turkish side that is occupying my house TODAY following the invasion, it is the TC side that has offered full citizenship of all Turkish citizens, it is the TC side that has even asked for 2 separate FIR's.

[Get Real!]

Erm Mala, still awaiting the bombshell you were going to drop on me on the other thread.

Note, it is the TC side that have been looking to increase the dialogue. TC side that agreed to the most comprehensive settlement on the island. TC side that offered an olive branch on winning a huge court decision. TC side that has set up a court mechanism to provide restitution/compensation for property. Looking for what the GC side has done for TCs.

Little jibes like that carry as much weight as wyoming's brain.

The “TCs” are just a bankrupt bunch of useless and hopeless peasants wasting everyone’s time, and thus a major insult to people’s intelligence!

Now please move along…

[Malapapa]

Erm Mala, still awaiting the bombshell you were going to drop on me on the other thread.

Note, it is the TC side that have been looking to increase the dialogue. TC side that agreed to the most comprehensive settlement on the island. TC side that offered an olive branch on winning a huge court decision. TC side that has set up a court mechanism to provide restitution/compensation for property. Looking for what the GC side has done for TCs.

Little jibes like that carry as much weight as wyoming's brain.

It was an incisive question, which you've timidly side-stepped. I thought you wanted progress.