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Postby bill cobbett » Fri Mar 12, 2010 2:11 am

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And we all know from where you heard that. From the Turks and from those who want Turkey in EU.


No. It was well before I moved over here. It was being said in London by anyone who had any interest in it. Have to say most people don't (or didn't then and probably still don't) have any interest in it.

Have a pal staying with me at the mo who has never heard about anything pertaining to any problem with Cyprus. And I bet that goes for the vast majority of the rest of the world. And did go for the vast majority of the rest of the people in the EU before Cyprus joined it.


Unfortunately people fighting to liberate their homeland using peaceful, legal means tend to be ignored by the vast majority of the rest of the world.


.... and what has CY got to offer the Great Powers... a load of deratcha .... a few lemons, some oranges and apricots....... :cry:
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Postby Gasman » Fri Mar 12, 2010 2:16 am

.... and what has CY got to offer the Great Powers... a load of deratcha .... a few lemons, some oranges and apricots.......


Sad, but probably quite true Bill.

*what's 'deratcha'?
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Postby Gasman » Fri Mar 12, 2010 2:17 am

Perhaps if you'd thrown in HALLOUMI!

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Postby Malapapa » Fri Mar 12, 2010 2:44 am

bill cobbett wrote:
Malapapa wrote:
Gasman wrote:
And we all know from where you heard that. From the Turks and from those who want Turkey in EU.


No. It was well before I moved over here. It was being said in London by anyone who had any interest in it. Have to say most people don't (or didn't then and probably still don't) have any interest in it.

Have a pal staying with me at the mo who has never heard about anything pertaining to any problem with Cyprus. And I bet that goes for the vast majority of the rest of the world. And did go for the vast majority of the rest of the people in the EU before Cyprus joined it.


Unfortunately people fighting to liberate their homeland using peaceful, legal means tend to be ignored by the vast majority of the rest of the world.


.... and what has CY got to offer the Great Powers... a load of deratcha .... a few lemons, some oranges and apricots....... :cry:


This is how Palestinians get the world to notice their plight. And where poor judgement can lead...

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Postby Piratis » Fri Mar 12, 2010 2:53 am

It was being said in London by anyone who had any interest in it.


Interest in what?
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Postby bill cobbett » Fri Mar 12, 2010 2:59 am

Gasman wrote:
.... and what has CY got to offer the Great Powers... a load of deratcha .... a few lemons, some oranges and apricots.......


Sad, but probably quite true Bill.

*what's 'deratcha'?


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Postby B25 » Fri Mar 12, 2010 12:03 pm

Gasman wrote:
.... and what has CY got to offer the Great Powers... a load of deratcha .... a few lemons, some oranges and apricots.......


Sad, but probably quite true Bill.

*what's 'deratcha'?


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Postby vaughanwilliams » Fri Mar 12, 2010 12:37 pm

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Gasman wrote:Have heard it said many times that, but for the (erroneous) assumption that RoC would agree to the Annan Plan, they would not now be in the EU. And that it was a huge blunder to have allowed them in while the island was still divided.


Perhaps those who you may have heard say this, like you, have a flawed understanding of how democracy works. Cyprus's EU accession was not dependent on its people approving a plan that restricted the very rights and freedoms that EU citizenship was to afford them.


Cyprus's accession was dependant on Greece threatening (blackmailing) to veto other EU enlargements if RoC wasn't admitted.
Cyprus blagged its way into the EU with the connivance of Greece. :shock:
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Postby DT. » Fri Mar 12, 2010 12:39 pm

vaughanwilliams wrote:
Malapapa wrote:
Gasman wrote:Have heard it said many times that, but for the (erroneous) assumption that RoC would agree to the Annan Plan, they would not now be in the EU. And that it was a huge blunder to have allowed them in while the island was still divided.


Perhaps those who you may have heard say this, like you, have a flawed understanding of how democracy works. Cyprus's EU accession was not dependent on its people approving a plan that restricted the very rights and freedoms that EU citizenship was to afford them.


Cyprus's accession was dependant on Greece threatening (blackmailing) to veto other EU enlargements if RoC wasn't admitted.
Cyprus blagged its way into the EU with the connivance of Greece. :shock:


Greece could never had done any of that had Cyprus not finished off the negotiations of ALL the chapters first amongst the other new member states. The fact that finanically it was better off than all the other new members helped as well.
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Postby Malapapa » Fri Mar 12, 2010 12:53 pm

vaughanwilliams wrote:
Malapapa wrote:
Gasman wrote:Have heard it said many times that, but for the (erroneous) assumption that RoC would agree to the Annan Plan, they would not now be in the EU. And that it was a huge blunder to have allowed them in while the island was still divided.


Perhaps those who you may have heard say this, like you, have a flawed understanding of how democracy works. Cyprus's EU accession was not dependent on its people approving a plan that restricted the very rights and freedoms that EU citizenship was to afford them.


Cyprus's accession was dependant on Greece threatening (blackmailing) to veto other EU enlargements if RoC wasn't admitted.


If you're going to spout Turkey's propaganda, in an attempt to ease your conscience for living in someone else's stolen property, you'd better be on solid ground or I'll wipe the floor with you. On what basis should Cyprus, which had met all the EU accession criteria, have not been admitted?

vaughanwilliams wrote:Cyprus blagged its way into the EU with the connivance of Greece. :shock:


No, you've blagged your way into someone else's home with the connivance of Turkey. :shock:
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