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Postby saurkraut » Sat Mar 13, 2010 12:36 am

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Jerry wrote: ... but there may be some time-limit, for the delivery of an IPC-judgement, which the ECHR will recognise as the period, after which, the IPC can be deemed to have refused to rule, and, consequently, that the local process has been de facto exhausted, and that an appeal can be made.


This is what I spotted as a loophole, and I am loathe to go back and re-read it, but they did not specify how l-o-n-g one had to wait to get a decision fom the IPC before one could rule they had exhausted this avenue.

So, why shouldn't an application be made (other than on moral grounds) and then within a short time frame declare you personally have waited long enough and consider the subject exhausted. To-wit the ECHR then have to take up your case!


God how familiar you sound to the Northern Forums when they were coming to terms with the Orams ruling, looking for loopholes and ways to dodge the awful truth. Get used to it hen the EU have had a good look and found you lot to be the uncompromising inflexible whingers you are and definitely not the badly treated mother Teresa types you try to portray with your bigoted propaganda.

You had the chance remember the Annan plan i hope so because you wont get an offer like that again.
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Postby YFred » Sat Mar 13, 2010 12:39 am

saurkraut wrote:
Oracle wrote:
Jerry wrote: ... but there may be some time-limit, for the delivery of an IPC-judgement, which the ECHR will recognise as the period, after which, the IPC can be deemed to have refused to rule, and, consequently, that the local process has been de facto exhausted, and that an appeal can be made.


This is what I spotted as a loophole, and I am loathe to go back and re-read it, but they did not specify how l-o-n-g one had to wait to get a decision fom the IPC before one could rule they had exhausted this avenue.

So, why shouldn't an application be made (other than on moral grounds) and then within a short time frame declare you personally have waited long enough and consider the subject exhausted. To-wit the ECHR then have to take up your case!


God how familiar you sound to the Northern Forums when they were coming to terms with the Orams ruling, looking for loopholes and ways to dodge the awful truth. Get used to it hen the EU have had a good look and found you lot to be the uncompromising inflexible whingers you are and definitely not the badly treated mother Teresa types you try to portray with your bigoted propaganda.

You had the chance remember the Annan plan i hope so because you wont get an offer like that again.

They had one in early 60s wihich would have given them 95% of the island and they refused that too.
They are just very good at kicking a gift horse in the mouth and can't help themselves.
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Postby Acikgoz » Sat Mar 13, 2010 12:39 am

Bill, have you heard the slang expression "keeping it real"?

This is where I truly object to your posts. It can be thought of as meaning being true to yourself, resisting the temptation to be fake. Given your arguments never encapsulate all the horrors GCs lay at the feet of TCs which you know too well have occurred and to this day continue to occur, you are not therefore being true to yourself.

You are a fake. For all your protests about human rights you do not support them for humans, only humans that are Greek Cypriot.

You are competent with facts and therefore, when realities are presented against your biased arguments, which you describe as "drivel", it is obvious that you choose to be fake. My aim is not to offend you but to remind you that the "Rights of Man" do not only exist for Greek Cypriots but for all people.

Your bias is as big as a planet, and your madness calculated.
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Postby DTA » Sat Mar 13, 2010 12:39 am

bill cobbett wrote:Boys and girl, esp B25, whose sentiments towards the Scummision are held by many, inc me, we need a few Test Pilot Cases of our own .... a few Brave and UnCompromising Patriots ready to dirty their hands, to go along with the ECHR and show them what Turkey's intransigence is all about, show them the Scummision is A FILTHY TURKISH SCAM.


for all your bitching an moaning about the latest ECHRs decision you or anyone of the GC on the board have not come up with any legal basis to challenge it.

The funny thing is I think I just thought of one!!! but Im sure someone on your side will think along the same lines soon.
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Postby YFred » Sat Mar 13, 2010 12:47 am

DTA wrote:
bill cobbett wrote:Boys and girl, esp B25, whose sentiments towards the Scummision are held by many, inc me, we need a few Test Pilot Cases of our own .... a few Brave and UnCompromising Patriots ready to dirty their hands, to go along with the ECHR and show them what Turkey's intransigence is all about, show them the Scummision is A FILTHY TURKISH SCAM.


for all your bitching an moaning about the latest ECHRs decision you or anyone of the GC on the board have not come up with any legal basis to challenge it.

The funny thing is I think I just thought of one!!! but Im sure someone on your side will think along the same lines soon.

Billy boy, TRNC is willing to give upto 50000 GCs their land back withing the TRNC territory. Listen to Yfred and stop pissing in the wind. You have a chance to get your land back, do it. I wish I had such an opporotunity without having to pay lawyers.
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Postby DTA » Sat Mar 13, 2010 12:49 am

YFred wrote:
DTA wrote:
bill cobbett wrote:Boys and girl, esp B25, whose sentiments towards the Scummision are held by many, inc me, we need a few Test Pilot Cases of our own .... a few Brave and UnCompromising Patriots ready to dirty their hands, to go along with the ECHR and show them what Turkey's intransigence is all about, show them the Scummision is A FILTHY TURKISH SCAM.


for all your bitching an moaning about the latest ECHRs decision you or anyone of the GC on the board have not come up with any legal basis to challenge it.

The funny thing is I think I just thought of one!!! but Im sure someone on your side will think along the same lines soon.

Billy boy, TRNC is willing to give upto 50000 GCs their land back withing the TRNC territory. Listen to Yfred and stop pissing in the wind. You have a chance to get your land back, do it. I wish I had such an opporotunity without having to pay lawyers.


Very true, my family and I am sure a huge ammount of Tc would love an IPC in the south of the Island.
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Postby YFred » Sat Mar 13, 2010 12:53 am

DTA wrote:
YFred wrote:
DTA wrote:
bill cobbett wrote:Boys and girl, esp B25, whose sentiments towards the Scummision are held by many, inc me, we need a few Test Pilot Cases of our own .... a few Brave and UnCompromising Patriots ready to dirty their hands, to go along with the ECHR and show them what Turkey's intransigence is all about, show them the Scummision is A FILTHY TURKISH SCAM.


for all your bitching an moaning about the latest ECHRs decision you or anyone of the GC on the board have not come up with any legal basis to challenge it.

The funny thing is I think I just thought of one!!! but Im sure someone on your side will think along the same lines soon.

Billy boy, TRNC is willing to give upto 50000 GCs their land back withing the TRNC territory. Listen to Yfred and stop pissing in the wind. You have a chance to get your land back, do it. I wish I had such an opporotunity without having to pay lawyers.


Very true, my family and I am sure a huge ammount of Tc would love an IPC in the south of the Island.

But of course TCs have given them nothing. :lol: :lol: :lol:
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Postby bill cobbett » Sat Mar 13, 2010 2:06 am

YFred wrote:
DTA wrote:
YFred wrote:
DTA wrote:
bill cobbett wrote:Boys and girl, esp B25, whose sentiments towards the Scummision are held by many, inc me, we need a few Test Pilot Cases of our own .... a few Brave and UnCompromising Patriots ready to dirty their hands, to go along with the ECHR and show them what Turkey's intransigence is all about, show them the Scummision is A FILTHY TURKISH SCAM.


for all your bitching an moaning about the latest ECHRs decision you or anyone of the GC on the board have not come up with any legal basis to challenge it.

The funny thing is I think I just thought of one!!! but Im sure someone on your side will think along the same lines soon.

Billy boy, TRNC is willing to give upto 50000 GCs their land back withing the TRNC territory. Listen to Yfred and stop pissing in the wind. You have a chance to get your land back, do it. I wish I had such an opporotunity without having to pay lawyers.


Very true, my family and I am sure a huge ammount of Tc would love an IPC in the south of the Island.

But of course TCs have given them nothing. :lol: :lol: :lol:


Will you two stop drinking and going around salivating and chundering all over the Forum. You're both an embarrassment to North London.

...and as to the rest refer you to the first part of Freddie's signature.

Now will you both go and sober up. This minor and temporary little hindrance will be overcome, you both know this.
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Postby Oracle » Sat Mar 13, 2010 2:11 am

saurkraut wrote:
Oracle wrote:
Jerry wrote: ... but there may be some time-limit, for the delivery of an IPC-judgement, which the ECHR will recognise as the period, after which, the IPC can be deemed to have refused to rule, and, consequently, that the local process has been de facto exhausted, and that an appeal can be made.


This is what I spotted as a loophole, and I am loathe to go back and re-read it, but they did not specify how l-o-n-g one had to wait to get a decision fom the IPC before one could rule they had exhausted this avenue.

So, why shouldn't an application be made (other than on moral grounds) and then within a short time frame declare you personally have waited long enough and consider the subject exhausted. To-wit the ECHR then have to take up your case!


God how familiar you sound to the Northern Forums when they were coming to terms with the Orams ruling, looking for loopholes and ways to dodge the awful truth. Get used to it hen the EU have had a good look and found you lot to be the uncompromising inflexible whingers you are and definitely not the badly treated mother Teresa types you try to portray with your bigoted propaganda.

You had the chance remember the Annan plan i hope so because you wont get an offer like that again.


There is no comparison with the Annan plans so stop harping back. If we won't get an offer like that again, it's your loss not ours. Tough luck!

As for loopholes, all can look, but there were none in the Orams case. Tough luck (again)!
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Postby DTA » Sat Mar 13, 2010 2:25 am

bill cobbett wrote:
YFred wrote:
DTA wrote:
YFred wrote:
DTA wrote:
bill cobbett wrote:Boys and girl, esp B25, whose sentiments towards the Scummision are held by many, inc me, we need a few Test Pilot Cases of our own .... a few Brave and UnCompromising Patriots ready to dirty their hands, to go along with the ECHR and show them what Turkey's intransigence is all about, show them the Scummision is A FILTHY TURKISH SCAM.


for all your bitching an moaning about the latest ECHRs decision you or anyone of the GC on the board have not come up with any legal basis to challenge it.

The funny thing is I think I just thought of one!!! but Im sure someone on your side will think along the same lines soon.

Billy boy, TRNC is willing to give upto 50000 GCs their land back withing the TRNC territory. Listen to Yfred and stop pissing in the wind. You have a chance to get your land back, do it. I wish I had such an opporotunity without having to pay lawyers.


Very true, my family and I am sure a huge ammount of Tc would love an IPC in the south of the Island.

But of course TCs have given them nothing. :lol: :lol: :lol:


Will you two stop drinking and going around salivating and chundering all over the Forum. You're both an embarrassment to North London.

...and as to the rest refer you to the first part of Freddie's signature.

Now will you both go and sober up. This minor and temporary little hindrance will be overcome, you both know this.


You wrote a lot of words but you said nothing.
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