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Can the ECHR ruling be challenged.

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Postby Get Real! » Thu Mar 11, 2010 11:19 pm

Ok, so what are the options so far?

1. An appeal of the ECHR case to the Grand Chamber within 3 months.

2. The RoC takes the ECHR decision to the ECJ.
(NB: The Lisbon Treaty is worth a read here to counter Copperline’s comment)

3. A complaint is filed with the European Ombudsman.

4. The RoC passes legislation making applications to the “IPC” illegal.

5. More to follow when I've got more time to think and research... (gotta run now)

It took me about half an hour to find all these and I was just skimming through! :roll:
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Postby Malapapa » Thu Mar 11, 2010 11:22 pm

bill cobbett wrote:Has anyone got an emoticon of a curly-haired, scruffily-dressed, and sort of English-looking chap pulling out his hair and going red in the face and with steam blowing out of his ears and with the look of the greatest despair and frustration to hand please?


Sorry, bill. This is the best I could find...

Image

And I still think he's a dead ringer for you...
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Postby Get Real! » Thu Mar 11, 2010 11:22 pm

bill cobbett wrote:Has anyone got an emoticon of a curly-haired, scruffily-dressed, and sort of English-looking chap pulling out his hair and going red in the face and with steam blowing out of his ears and with the look of the greatest despair and frustration to hand please?

With Zany's departure perhaps you should take over this ---> Image
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Postby Jerry » Fri Mar 12, 2010 12:16 am

My response to the ECHR ruling.

The EU is expected to accede to the ECHR http://www.europarl.europa.eu/sides/get ... anguage=EN
I’m of the opinion that the Court has ignored its own Convention by making this judgment. This is a political decision not a judical one.

According to Wikipedia (not the best source but there must be an element of truth here) “In 1999 the Court (ECHR) had a backlog of 60,000 cases, growing to about 100,000 cases in 2007.[3][4] In early 2010 the court had a backlog of over 120,000 cases and a multi-year waiting list.[5] [6] [7] About 1 out of every 20 cases submitted to the court is considered admissible.[8] In 2007 the court issued 1,503 verdicts. At the current rate of proceedings, it would take 46 years for the backlog to clear”
This backlog alone would seem a good enough reason for the EU not to aceede and the recent injustice served on GCs can only add another. The EU should ask the Grand Chamber to re-consider this verdict.

I intend to contact my MEPs http://www.europarl.org.uk/section/your-meps/your-meps# and complain in the strongest possible terms about the hypocrisy of the ECHR.
I also intend to make an appointment with my UK MP http://www.parliament.uk/about/contacting/mp.cfm at his local surgery an ask him for help and guidance to reverse this injustice.

There are a couple of other bodies that may be prepared to condemn the ECHR’s judgment and put pressure on it to amend this decision: - http://www.hrw.org/ and http://www.amnesty.org.uk/index.asp
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Postby Gasman » Fri Mar 12, 2010 12:21 am

Hang on a mo! Why all these hundreds of posts about this, and wondering if and how the ECHJ can be challenged when, right on the first page of the first thread on the subject, Oracle said:

Therefore, having set the precedent, in a roundabout way the ECHR -- being very busy -- is telling everyone to go through the RoC Courts!


Was she wrong?

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Postby bill cobbett » Fri Mar 12, 2010 12:29 am

Jerry wrote:My response to the ECHR ruling.

The EU is expected to accede to the ECHR http://www.europarl.europa.eu/sides/get ... anguage=EN
I’m of the opinion that the Court has ignored its own Convention by making this judgment. This is a political decision not a judical one.

According to Wikipedia (not the best source but there must be an element of truth here) “In 1999 the Court (ECHR) had a backlog of 60,000 cases, growing to about 100,000 cases in 2007.[3][4] In early 2010 the court had a backlog of over 120,000 cases and a multi-year waiting list.[5] [6] [7] About 1 out of every 20 cases submitted to the court is considered admissible.[8] In 2007 the court issued 1,503 verdicts. At the current rate of proceedings, it would take 46 years for the backlog to clear”
This backlog alone would seem a good enough reason for the EU not to aceede and the recent injustice served on GCs can only add another. The EU should ask the Grand Chamber to re-consider this verdict.

I intend to contact my MEPs http://www.europarl.org.uk/section/your-meps/your-meps# and complain in the strongest possible terms about the hypocrisy of the ECHR.
I also intend to make an appointment with my UK MP http://www.parliament.uk/about/contacting/mp.cfm at his local surgery an ask him for help and guidance to reverse this injustice.

There are a couple of other bodies that may be prepared to condemn the ECHR’s judgment and put pressure on it to amend this decision: - http://www.hrw.org/ and http://www.amnesty.org.uk/index.asp


Bravo reh Jerry.
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Postby YFred » Fri Mar 12, 2010 12:35 am

bill cobbett wrote:
Jerry wrote:My response to the ECHR ruling.

The EU is expected to accede to the ECHR http://www.europarl.europa.eu/sides/get ... anguage=EN
I’m of the opinion that the Court has ignored its own Convention by making this judgment. This is a political decision not a judical one.

According to Wikipedia (not the best source but there must be an element of truth here) “In 1999 the Court (ECHR) had a backlog of 60,000 cases, growing to about 100,000 cases in 2007.[3][4] In early 2010 the court had a backlog of over 120,000 cases and a multi-year waiting list.[5] [6] [7] About 1 out of every 20 cases submitted to the court is considered admissible.[8] In 2007 the court issued 1,503 verdicts. At the current rate of proceedings, it would take 46 years for the backlog to clear”
This backlog alone would seem a good enough reason for the EU not to aceede and the recent injustice served on GCs can only add another. The EU should ask the Grand Chamber to re-consider this verdict.

I intend to contact my MEPs http://www.europarl.org.uk/section/your-meps/your-meps# and complain in the strongest possible terms about the hypocrisy of the ECHR.
I also intend to make an appointment with my UK MP http://www.parliament.uk/about/contacting/mp.cfm at his local surgery an ask him for help and guidance to reverse this injustice.

There are a couple of other bodies that may be prepared to condemn the ECHR’s judgment and put pressure on it to amend this decision: - http://www.hrw.org/ and http://www.amnesty.org.uk/index.asp


Bravo reh Jerry.

You guys just don't get it. I've been telling you for 12 months, The way the international community see Cyprus is changing and you are ignoring it. Now you are running around like a headless chickens treating the cyprus problem as a legal matter and it just aint. It is a political matter and it will be solved politically sooner rather then later. Sooner you realise it the easier it becmes.
More like Eldorado then Bravo I'd say.

Bu ise reh pusho charlui.
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Re: Can the ECHR ruling be challenged.

Postby YFred » Fri Mar 12, 2010 12:43 am

Kikapu wrote:
boulio wrote:I have a question can the ECHR ruling be challenged and how?because i believe and everyone pretty much does as well(including many turks)that this was a ruling taken to force a faster resolution to the cyprus problem as well to enchance Talats election campain.THe ruling contridicts one of the eu's four basic freedoms of enjoying and owning ones property.


Probably after Talat is re-elected, which I already predicted that he will be after Erdogan started sending "love" messages to the GCs with his recent statements. This will all help in getting Talat re-elected. This must all be Eroglu's worse nightmare at what has happened in the last week or so.!

No I am confused. Please help. What is your stand point today. Are you now saying that Turkey cannot control Eroglu and has bribed judges in favour of Talat. When has Turkey lost control of TRNC and why.
What ever you are taking, I'll have a few kilos old chap. You are so wrong. I hope you are right and Talat wins.
How on earth can anybody bribe the judges in echr? when they couldn't do it to ECJ. Have you all taken leave of your senses. Back to your bodies immedeately and there will be no body sharing at all. It's against the policy of the roc and GO church you know. That's an order.
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Postby Get Real! » Fri Mar 12, 2010 12:44 am

YFred wrote:You guys just don't get it. I've been telling you for 12 months,

You've only been posting rubbish for the past 12 months. :lol:

And as for the rest...

The funny thing is that for years “Turkish Cypriots” were bragging that the Cyprus Problem was solved in 1974 and now all of a sudden they want to pay for each donum? :lol:
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Postby YFred » Fri Mar 12, 2010 12:55 am

Get Real! wrote:
YFred wrote:You guys just don't get it. I've been telling you for 12 months,

You've only been posting rubbish for the past 12 months. :lol:

And as for the rest...

The funny thing is that for years “Turkish Cypriots” were bragging that the Cyprus Problem was solved in 1974 and now all of a sudden they want to pay for each donum? :lol:

You are such an arse
Judging by the activities of roc, how many people will apply? What will happen to the rest?
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