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Postby Acikgoz » Sat Mar 13, 2010 8:49 pm

The issue was taken up about the accusations of ECHR ruling being partial. Equal allegations were made against ECJ ruling.
Either the legal system can be flawed or the legal system is squeky clean. Take your pick and apply evenly, not just what suits you where it suits you and then assume you are worthy of a valid opinion.
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Postby Malapapa » Sat Mar 13, 2010 9:01 pm

Acikgoz wrote:The issue was taken up about the accusations of ECHR ruling being partial.


Only after this...

http://www.turkishweekly.net/news/98997 ... ision.html

Gul and Talat agreed that ECHR decision was a significant legal win, officials said.
(So not justice for refugees wanting a speedy, fair, local remedy, as required by the ECHR, but a significant win for Turkey and its subordinate regime)

Talat also thanked Gul for Turkey's support to TRNC during legal process at ECHR.
(So perhaps you'd care to explain why Talat was so grateful to Gul over an 'impartial' ECHR ruling)
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Postby Jerry » Sat Mar 13, 2010 9:17 pm

Acikgoz wrote:The issue was taken up about the accusations of ECHR ruling being partial. Equal allegations were made against ECJ ruling.
Either the legal system can be flawed or the legal system is squeky clean. Take your pick and apply evenly, not just what suits you where it suits you and then assume you are worthy of a valid opinion.


Two differnt Courts entirely. The UK High Court based its decision on the law. The ECHR based its decision on expediency and the practical consequence of the implications of 35 years of illegal occupation, it was a political decision.
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Postby B25 » Sat Mar 13, 2010 9:21 pm

Jerry wrote:
Acikgoz wrote:The issue was taken up about the accusations of ECHR ruling being partial. Equal allegations were made against ECJ ruling.
Either the legal system can be flawed or the legal system is squeky clean. Take your pick and apply evenly, not just what suits you where it suits you and then assume you are worthy of a valid opinion.


Two differnt Courts entirely. The UK High Court based its decision on the law. The ECHR based its decision on expediency and the practical consequence of the implications of 35 years of illegal occupation, it was a political decision.


Not forgetting the bribes and threats from the turks.

The ECHR is a sham, it had no basis for finding such a decision other than being DIRECTED to by other higher powers.

May they all rot in hell.
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Postby Jerry » Sat Mar 13, 2010 10:08 pm

B25 wrote:
Jerry wrote:
Acikgoz wrote:The issue was taken up about the accusations of ECHR ruling being partial. Equal allegations were made against ECJ ruling.
Either the legal system can be flawed or the legal system is squeky clean. Take your pick and apply evenly, not just what suits you where it suits you and then assume you are worthy of a valid opinion.


Two differnt Courts entirely. The UK High Court based its decision on the law. The ECHR based its decision on expediency and the practical consequence of the implications of 35 years of illegal occupation, it was a political decision.


Not forgetting the bribes and threats from the turks.

The ECHR is a sham, it had no basis for finding such a decision other than being DIRECTED to by other higher powers.

May they all rot in hell.


I'm as angry as you B25, but I don't think there was any bribery involved. As to threats and being directed by higher powers, we just don't know what goes on behind closed doors, do we?
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Postby B25 » Sat Mar 13, 2010 10:15 pm

Jerry wrote:
B25 wrote:
Jerry wrote:
Acikgoz wrote:The issue was taken up about the accusations of ECHR ruling being partial. Equal allegations were made against ECJ ruling.
Either the legal system can be flawed or the legal system is squeky clean. Take your pick and apply evenly, not just what suits you where it suits you and then assume you are worthy of a valid opinion.


Two differnt Courts entirely. The UK High Court based its decision on the law. The ECHR based its decision on expediency and the practical consequence of the implications of 35 years of illegal occupation, it was a political decision.


Not forgetting the bribes and threats from the turks.

The ECHR is a sham, it had no basis for finding such a decision other than being DIRECTED to by other higher powers.

May they all rot in hell.


I'm as angry as you B25, but I don't think there was any bribery involved. As to threats and being directed by higher powers, we just don't know what goes on behind closed doors, do we?


Erdogan was quick to announce that the decision was a rsult of his persoanle and turkeys efforts to the ECHR, What else could that possibly mean ??????
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Postby Acikgoz » Sat Mar 13, 2010 10:52 pm

LOL - Jerry, sorry but even you are a jerk if you do not believe there is room for beig subjective in the UK Court of Appeal. Also the primary is a RoC court where it is obvious there would be bias, and the ECJ chief judge on the case as described was awarded by the GC a highest order.

It is at these times when you should review your actions and expressions and say am I paranoid, am I fair.
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Postby Jerry » Sun Mar 14, 2010 12:00 am

Acikgoz wrote:LOL - Jerry, sorry but even you are a jerk if you do not believe there is room for beig subjective in the UK Court of Appeal. Also the primary is a RoC court where it is obvious there would be bias, and the ECJ chief judge on the case as described was awarded by the GC a highest order.

It is at these times when you should review your actions and expressions and say am I paranoid, am I fair.


LOL and Jerk yourself AciKgoz but no need to be sorry. I would say there is as much chance of the ROC Court being biased as there is of the IPC, wouldn't you sgree? LOL, LOL

The matter of the bias of the Greek Judge was argued at length in the Orams trial, as I said in another thread even Cherie Booth/Blair agreed that there was no actual bias - but obviously you know better than her, perhaps you should have represented Orams LOL, LOL
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Postby Acikgoz » Sun Mar 14, 2010 12:16 am

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LOL and Jerk yourself AciKgoz but no need to be sorry. I would say there is as much chance of the ROC Court being biased as there is of the IPC, wouldn't you sgree? LOL, LOL


As I mentioned earlier and seems like you agree -

Either the legal system can be flawed or the legal system is squeky clean. Take your pick and apply evenly, not just what suits you where it suits you and then assume you are worthy of a valid opinion.
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Postby Malapapa » Sun Mar 14, 2010 12:25 am

Acikgoz wrote:
Jerry wrote:
LOL and Jerk yourself AciKgoz but no need to be sorry. I would say there is as much chance of the ROC Court being biased as there is of the IPC, wouldn't you sgree? LOL, LOL


As I mentioned earlier and seems like you agree -

Either the legal system can be flawed or the legal system is squeky clean. Take your pick and apply evenly, not just what suits you where it suits you and then assume you are worthy of a valid opinion.


Answer my post above and stop obfuscating.
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