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[Me Ed]

The ECHR, with its recognition of the IPC, has hit its self-destruct button.

Do not treat the ECHR as a sacred cow - Turkey never did and look at the reward.

Before any Turk states that we used to side with the ECHR - yes we did, when they were objective and when they were on the side of justice and when it came to their own article 1.

A legal challenge to its legitmacy by us GCs will destroy the ECHR and we have nothing to loose by doing so, but they need to get their act together and send a clear message to the Turks.

As a GC I will not apologise for our prosperity and eventual union with the EU after '74 - the ECHR would have treated us better if we were 3rd world.

I make no apology that the number of claims against the Turks is an inconvenience to the ECHR.

Don't get me wrong, I would like to see the Turks prosper, but not on GC land - do it off your own work and effort - we GCs will never make an apology for your embargos - pay for your own lunch!

Watch this space, in a few years time the ECHR will be long gone and it will be down to the ECJ to sort out the ECHR failures.

[bill cobbett]

Well the ECHR made an expedient choice to get in to bed with Turkey ... and it ain't can't expect to come up smelling of roses.

[repulsewarrior]

Europe needs Turkey, (like the US) it is geographic. If you want to blame someone for Turkey's pre-eminence as a regional power, blame the Greek Junta, and blame the Socialists who wouldn't have the US military on their soil.

it is hard to understand the Reasoning, and in this ruling the political was expressed, by ignoring the Annan plan entirely, and by recognising Turkey in its Commission to compensate, their exists a motive: compassion to the settlers who by some measure are victims too, a recognition that in any event Cyprus will remain Sovereign having a single Identity and somehow bicommunal, and that blame (Turkey's at least is accounted for).

[B25]

There is no other way to dexribe the ECHR other than that are abunch of wankers on the take.

their decision is far from being logical, it is unjust and down right F wrong.

ECHR may you and your families all burn in hell.

[miltiades]

There is no other way to dexribe the ECHR other than that are abunch of wankers on the take.

their decision is far from being logical, it is unjust and down right F wrong.

ECHR may you and your families all burn in hell.

And may your kind be just a tiny minority of G/Cs !!!

[Bananiot]

The Demopoulos and others v Turkey decision of March 5 is a great deal more serious in a number of ways than anyone is prepared to acknowledge. The Court rejected every single argument of the Greek Cypriot side (GC) regarding the so called illegality of the Commission by reminding the applicants of its well known and consistent jurisprudence on the matter of exhaustion of domestic remedies and its clearly stated position in all the cases we consider as victories, i.e Fourth Interstate, Loizidou etc, that if and when Turkey introduces a domestic remedy in the north then they will examine it and determine its effectiveness. And then it went on to examine its effectiveness and found that indeed it os effective as there was no evidence to the contrary provided by the GC whereas Turkey had submitted a whole lot of settlements arrived at under the new law. And why did we not have any evidence?? Ahh that is because we refused and branded all who wished to go as traitors so that when it came to the hearing in Strasbourg we had nothing to show.

Almost 4 years ago I applied to the Commission, asking for the return of all my family’s property. I spent a considerable time and energy trying to force the Commission to consider my demands seriously and to follow appropriate procedures; finally I got them to hold hearings for the first time and to issue decisions. Having exhausted this remedy I have now taken all the material and submitted an application to the European Court of Human Rights. I can not tell what will happen there but I can tell that had more GC's applied properly and with the right legal advice and support and had seen the process through then we would have had a mass of evidence to argue , not that this is an illegal remedy but that this is an ineffective remedy. Politicians and lawyers are hugely responsible for this damning decision which has saddled us for the time being with a very bad remedy. In any other country in the civilised world , those directly in charge would have resigned by now and others would have been sacked, But in Cyprus the opposite happens, those responsible have come out attacking both the Court and the people who applied to it. It is at the very least shameful!

Eleni Meleagrou

[saurkraut]

There is no other way to dexribe the ECHR other than that are abunch of wankers on the take.

their decision is far from being logical, it is unjust and down right F wrong.

ECHR may you and your families all burn in hell.

Hey B25 Your ability to represent the IQ level of this forum does you credit i just love it. The world must form a wonderful opinion of you lot as a nation and you probably are doing a brilliant job to convince any onlooker that you are worth bothering about. Keep it up big gob you are a hero!!!!!

Your not crowing now are you?????

[saurkraut]

There is no other way to dexribe the ECHR other than that are abunch of wankers on the take.

their decision is far from being logical, it is unjust and down right F wrong.

ECHR may you and your families all burn in hell.