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[Agios Amvrosios]

Don't worry old man you'll be dead by the time they have another referendum.

[magikthrill]

yes well at least these leaders are from the same country as them as opposed to TCs leaders who are sitting comfortably in Ankara (or maybe sweating profusely at the moment)

And this is very relevant to what insan said...!?!

i was just commenting on the fact that TCs love to critisize GC politicians but the matter of the fact is that GCs choose their own politicians. They're base is in Nicosia. Not Athens. So unless TCs vote for Turkish leaders then they are not in complete control of their political destiny.

[erolz]

So unless TCs vote for Turkish leaders then they are not in complete control of their political destiny.

Where as in a unitary Cyprus with no effective protections for the TC community we would be in complete control of our political destiny?

[metecyp]

Where as in a unitary Cyprus with no effective protections for the TC community we would be in complete control of our political destiny?

Come on, Erol...that's just a minor detail...you never heard of democracy?

[erolz]

Come on, Erol...that's just a minor detail...you never heard of democracy?

[magikthrill]

So unless TCs vote for Turkish leaders then they are not in complete control of their political destiny.

Where as in a unitary Cyprus with no effective protections for the TC community we would be in complete control of our political destiny?

can you define effective protections from me? because from the way i see it is a settler from Turkey gaining right to my ancestors' home.

[Agios Amvrosios]

Protections could be guaranteed in the form Affirmative Action Legislation and benefits. I support an affirmative action program in a unitary state. You must either cooperate or remain in the waste lands of embargoville.

Bizonal ethnic cleansing is a barbaric abomonation.

[sadik]

i was just commenting on the fact that TCs love to critisize GC politicians but the matter of the fact is that GCs choose their own politicians. They're base is in Nicosia. Not Athens. So unless TCs vote for Turkish leaders then they are not in complete control of their political destiny.

It's not as simple as that. TCs had a long and hard struggle to put in place a leadership open to a solution. The difference between the old and the current leadership is a fundamental one. Do you want me to tell you what the difference is? You really need to be blind not to see it. The current TC leadership is definitely elected by the TCs, despite presurre from Turkey.

[erolz]

can you define effective protections from me? because from the way i see it is a settler from Turkey gaining right to my ancestors' home.

My definition would be a legal right for TC to be able to block legisaltion that affect TC differently to GC.

[erolz]

Protections could be guaranteed in the form Affirmative Action Legislation and benefits. I support an affirmative action program in a unitary state.

And what is to gurantee that once you have a unitary state that a GC numerical majority would not legaly and 'democraticaly' decide to remove any affairmative action legislation?

You must either cooperate or remain in the waste lands of embargoville.

As I could calim you must co operate (recognise TC communites legitimate need for poltical protection / equality at some levels) or remain in a seperated Cyprus with no chance of return for any of the GC that lost land in 74.