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[Gasman]

Prog I watched late last night explained it all as more of an attack on all of the Eurozone and Euro, (Greece being the weakest link?)

However, it seems that the MASSIVE Euro bailout has saved the day.

I don't understand why anyone thinks that huge Financial Corporations and Banks will 'have a heart' or take a soft line or do anything other than try to maximise profits for themselves and their shareholders.

They are doing on a grand scale what the high earning tax evaders in Greece are doing - they are both screwing others less fortunate than themselves.

And Greece, it seems, was complicit in what was done to or on behalf of or in cahoots with them.

[yialousa1971]

Prog I watched late last night explained it all as more of an attack on all of the Eurozone and Euro, (Greece being the weakest link?)

However, it seems that the MASSIVE Euro bailout has saved the day.

I don't understand why anyone thinks that huge Financial Corporations and Banks will 'have a heart' or take a soft line or do anything other than try to maximise profits for themselves and their shareholders.

They are doing on a grand scale what the high earning tax evaders in Greece are doing - they are both screwing others less fortunate than themselves.

And Greece, it seems, was complicit in what was done to or on behalf of or in cahoots with them.

More bull from Gasbag.

[yialousa1971]

Greece is NWO Test Ground, Says Greek Reader

"All men of power here, get their power from plundering the Greek people, or having connections with those that do it."


by Christos
(for http://www.henrymakow.com)

I am 26 years old and live in Greece. I am writing this letter in order to let you know about a new law in Greece announced yesterday.

The financial minister of Greece announced yesterday that from 1/1/2011 all financial transactions of sums above 1500 euros in cash, will be banned. For any transaction above 1500 euros, only credit cards and checks will be legal. The formal explanation for this law is it will combat those who do not pay taxes. But we all know this is not the case...

It seems the new world order wants to make Greece a testing ground for their new laws. For the past months, Greece have been attacked without mercy. We have been called liars, frauds, cheaters, thieves. They are threatening us constantly with banning from the euro zone and default. [These charges are] not true. ... The problem is, based on their accusations and (the virtual) bad situation of Greek finances, they will pass their experimental laws of their new world order.

The fairly new Government of the socialist party, elected 4 months ago, forgot all its promises, and is determined to pass laws giving citizenship to illegal immigrants after 5 years, without any trade-off. We are 10 million Greeks here, and almost 3 million mostly illegal immigrants, who will obtain Greek nationality and will gain the right to bring their families here too... In Pakistan there are even ads saying "for 5000 euros we get you to Greece, to study free, work, make families, and obtain EU passports"...

And now this... The previous government created a new ID card, to collect data from people since childbirth. This government will ban transactions in cash over 1500 euros, in order to make all of us have credit cards. The obvious first step is to ban all cash transactions, then merge this new ID card with the credit system, then, well.... insert this merged ID card into our bodies...

Our peoples' morale is low, society is disorganized because of immigration and propaganda, and we will not fight those laws. You people living in the Western World, be prepared because they are planning the same for you!

BACKGROUND

I will try to give you my personal view of the conditions in Greece.

First of all, there is no trust in politicians. Most people distrust them and know they are scum, but continue to vote for the same people in every election. This happens because they promise privileges in order to get votes. Most politicians are members of secret societies, and have close ties to USA and European elites. Our current prime minister is even an American citizen...

A young man living in Greece and having no connections, is hopeless. Without connections, he will have major difficulties if he wants to join a good University(or complete his studies without bribes), if he wants to find a job, or create his own. He will be forced to join the army while privileged young men with connections will illegally avoid it.

And there is no point discussing finding love... Of course pretty women will pick wealthier men, but in Greece even women of moderate appearance prefer men with deep pockets. They prefer sharing the top men than having a man only for themselves.

And the top men in Greece are all frauds. Greece, apart from some natural resources and its tourism industry, produces nothing of value. Corruption is so big, that all productive forces are drowned. So all men of power here, get their power from plundering the Greek people, or having connections with those that do it. Women (and their families) of course are not concerned about that. As long as someone is wealthy, he is desirable, and value as a person is irrelevant.

Despite poor economic condition (but not so desperate as to warrant dire measures), people in power take pleasure in attacking traditional customs, Orthodox Christianity, and traditional Greek patriots. They protect illegal immigrants, and silence their crimes. They attack Christianity, in the media, at schools etc. They are removing all Christian symbols from public places.

MEDIA

Greek media are a pile of garbage. For the biggest part of the day, most major TV networks will show shows discussing greek "vips" lifestyle, sexual relations etc. There are few "political" shows and news shows, all trying to cover the truth and turn the attention of the people at matters of trivial importance. Propaganda is blatant. The previous government was literally destroyed by TV networks. They promoted heavily the current government, so strongly that previous prime minister was forced to make new elections despite being only for 2 years in government.

Current prime minister made promises, NONE of which kept after being elected. Only a few days after election, he went on with the plans of New World Order. He created an artificially dire financial situation, in order to be able to pass whatever laws he wanted, plus giving his friends some money... He "cooked" our budget, by moving payments of 2010 in 2009 and incomes from 2009 to 2010, in order to both make our deficit bigger and be able to claim in 2010 that he "improved" our economy... This doesn't mean that our previous prime minister wasn't a puppet, just that he wasn't able to fulfill New World Order directions like the new government.

Huge economic scandals are discovered every day, and buried by Greek propaganda media. And most honest people are so concerned with working 2 and 3 jobs in order to feed their families, that cannot fight this corruption. Greek people work on average many more hours weekly than other EU countries, get much less pay, and pay more for the same products. And because of the traitors in government, EU newspapers and media call our people lazy. They say we need to work even more and receive even less... Of course this is not true. The plunder of Greek people has been made with their assistance. But this is a long subject and i wont go on with it.


CONCLUSION

In a few words... Life in Greece sucks. Since I am a computer programmer, i have many times thought about leaving for a better country and make my living there. But i do not want to abandon my home... yet. I would be willing to fight this system, but i see no point since the system is so well entrenched it cannot be tackled by a few men alone.

The reason i wrote you my previous letter is because this new law of banning cash transactions above 1500 euros is just another step towards cashless society, and is being implemented in Greece as a testing phase. I strongly believe it is a matter of time before most western nations see similar laws.

--

"Greek Crisis is Coming to America"



First Comment- Mark



Henry,
Looks like the information provided to you was absolutely correct. http://www.reuters.com/article/idUSLDE61824V20100209
HIGHLIGHTS-Greek FinMin unveils tax reform, wage policy
Tue Feb 9, 2010 11:37am EST
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ATHENS, Feb 9 (Reuters) - Greece outlined on Tuesday its public sector incomes policy and a tax reform bill, as part of an EU-endorsed plan to increase state revenues and reduce its huge deficit.
Bonds
The following are comments by Greek Finance Minister George Papaconstantinou at a press conference:
IMPACT OF REFORMS
"The total benefit of our incomes policy will be around 800 million euros.
EU
"EU partners and markets will closely monitor the implementation of our fiscal plan, I believe that the response will be positive. The measures that we have announced are becoming action"
TIME FOR CHANGE
"The time has come for major changes, the country can't afford to wait any longer"
TAXATION
"From 1. Jan. 2011, every transaction above 1,500 euros between natural persons and businesses, or between businesses, will not be considered legal if it is done in cash. Transactions will have to be done through debit or credit cards"
"With the new tax scale, there is a shift of the burden from low and middle income to high incomes.
"There's tax relief for incomes up to 40,000 (euros)"
"Taxable income based on the new scales will include capital gains from the short-term trading of stocks"

http://www.henrymakow.com/nwo_bitch_--_young_greek_conte.html

[Gasman]

This should be good news for those always banging on about 'Human Rights abuses'. One of the baddies of the piece (according to the articles in this thread) Hungarian Soros - world famous player of the international money markets but world famous philanthropist too:

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2010/sep/07/george-soros-100-million-human-rights-watch

[yialousa1971]

by Alex Zachus in Athens

(for Henrymakow.com)

Greece is a boiling pot ready to explode. Things are going to turn ugly and soon as society here is fed up with illegal immigration and the deconstruction of our founding values. And I dont mean the "orange" riots of December 2008. I mean real riots... Here is how we got to this crisis:


After the military dictarorship ended in 1974, the Greek political scene has been dominated by two families (Papandreou and Caramanlis). The Papandreou clan has been the oldest political clan in Greece starting its involvement with public life at around 1923 in the royal court of Greece

This clan was established by George Papandreou senior. He rose to political monolithism after the extermination of the WW2 leadership of Greece under Ioannis Metaxas and Alexander Koryzis. After the mysterious deaths of these leaders, he was handpicked by the allies to represent the sovereign Greek government in Cairo.

He was married to Sophia Mineiko a Polish-Jew whose father built fortification walls for Turks during the liberation of Northern Greece in the 1910s. Information about the family is scarce, even on the internet. To cut a long story short, after WW2 George Papandreou senior reigned in the public life from 1945 until 1967.


His son Andreas Papandreou reigned from 1981 until his death in 1996. A dual American Greek citizen, Trotskyist at the age of early 20s, to the point he left Greece under Metaxas in 1938, to then persue a career as a lecturer and proffesor in the Harvard University(!!)

He married Margaret Chant in 1951 (she gave birth in Minnesota to the current prime minister and is a controvercial personality involved in dubious ngo projects and excerts great inluence on George Papandreou). He returned to Greece in 1959 where he served in several important positions (chief advisor to his father, deputy prime minister) after rennouncing his American citizenship.


Andreas Papandreou Jr. ruled from 1981-1989 and 1993-1996. In these goverments, the current prime minister, Georgios, served as Minister of education and he was able to start the de-christianization process which now is in full blown motion. As foreign minister, he planted the seeds of the defeatism in Greek foreign policy.




SCANDAL





Papandreou's was involved in a huge scandal and cover up in the States (apart from the ones in Greece), that rocked the Greek-american community.This involved a Greek bank (Ktimatiki Bank),which lured Greek-americans with high interest returns, and evasion of the IRS.


However the whole scheme scheme went wrong, as the FBI infiltrated the gameplay, and this resulted to a lot of people losing their savings and serving many years in prison.The money trail back to the "pink villa" where Papandreou lived with his mistress who later became his second wife, in a posh suburb of Athens. (The scheme was in the region of 700 million dollars in the 1980s.)


Despite the overwelming evidence (all the money ended up in the Papandreous family coffers), no one was charged for the scheme apart from some small fish trying to make 15% on their petty cash stash.


One would think that because of a Chavez-like anti American rhetoric on which he was elected, the Americans would use this opportunity to put him in prison. Even the MI6 was puzzled at the time. Even CNN, when broadcasting this newstory, cut the sattelite link to Greece (satelite was brand new then here) in order for the story to get burried.


Papandreou died in 1996 and was suceeded in a internal party coup in which a crypto jew (Costas Simitis whose father was minister of the guerilla communist government with high royal connections) took the leadership of the party and ruled Greece until 2004. By cooking stats and data, Simitis managed to get us in the Eurozone and pillage all Greeks savings through a stock market swindle.





WHATS GOING ON NOW




While all the political parties in Greece have a share to the current situation, the Papandreou clan did the biggest damage. With the import of immorality, nepotism and dubious loylties and dependacies, this family has been the caretaker of the imperial grand plan of destroying the Greek people values, religion and ideals.


All this with the destruction of education and the criminalisation of the treasures of Greek orthodox religion, literature, and philosophy as well as patriotism. Even referring to tyhis destruction is enough for someone to be labelled as a fascist by all pollitically correct media whores. To give the final push, Papandreou wants to legalize all Asian and African Muslim hordes that have invaded our country with the financing of the Turkish mafia and extremist Saudis. "Progressives" refer to them as war refugees.

Usually the refugees are women, children and aged people, not males 20-30 y.o.I believe Papandreou is on a mission to destroy Europe along with Greece. He will achieve that firstly by economic means. This man has given bad publicity to the Euro, has managed to sink the Greek economy and also create problems for the Eurozone (not that immoral and greedy Europeans don't deserve it) .


Also with his Soros, Rockerfeller funded NGO-driven policy on immigration, he is preparing troubles for Europe as well. He promised the sky to the Greek people, only to tell them that due to the economy, we are going to lose part of our sovereignity. Sovereignity is lost only through war.

The alibi he has is the odious debt and his clan's policies that have never benefited our country.

----

Alex Zachus is 35 years old, lives in Athens. He studied economics in Britain; is married and is a church going person, currently looking for a job.

http://www.henrymakow.com/greece_is_rea ... plode.html

[kimon07]

What would one call the consisent suppers aimed at the destruction of Turkish Cypriot rights on Cyprus by Greek Cypriot parasites.

Greek Cypriot parasites you said?
You are referring to those Cypriots who made you an EU citizen with their own and sole struggle for decades? Those whose wallet you want to share now, although you and the likes of you sabotaged all efforts of Cyprus to become an EU member, threatening even with war and annexation of the North to Turkey. You who want to let Turkey be a partner to the wealth of the Island now that the GCs discovered it?
You who want the partition of the Island so that Turkey will be able to remain in the North for ever?
Flag of North Cyprus did you say? In which world or planet does such a state exist? Under which UN resolutions has it been recognezed if you please?
My God, you damn pirates do have a nerve don't you?