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[gabaston]

Magik

Nope im not saying that – im saying our gripe is from independence onwards, and the failure to stick to an agreed constitution. If we had known gc’s intention of revenge treatments for what had previously had taken place, tc, Turkey, and Britain would not have accepted independence. A line was drawn under 1960 and that should have been respected. Sadly it wasn’t and as a result of which we have the mess we have today.

Your statement makes as much sense as me assuming that if we are to re-unite, you will then find justification in revenging the deaths of 74. It sounds as much.

[gabaston]

yup many other countries with intercommunal bloodshed. ive given ulster as an example, and given a link from a paper quoting similarites.

Any other bi-communal countries with three guarntor powers about please post and maybe we can learn from them.

[gabaston]

non

aparteid is a system where people of the same country or state were required to use separate trains, beaches, restaurants, and schools, and could not enter into an interracial marriage.

if we had trains you could use them, your free to use our beaches, well you got to pay towel money, gc's do use our restaraunts, i dont think you want to use our schools, and feel free to mary a tc.

i think my youngest daughter will mary a gc boy, with my consent too................

aparteid indeed.................., just another of those gc terms like "turkey's bastard child" which some gc is trying to bring into acceptable everyday use..................we are not children.

using the word aparteid is an insult to the millions of South Africans who survived, were tortured, and killed by it. Ask a south african to compare your version of apartied to the real thing, they'll laugh at you.

[RAFAELLA]

RAFAELLA

However, the government had a propasal for the joint operation of Famagusta port under the observation of EU and the return of the closed city of Varosha to its lawful owners.

The governments proposal was fair, why it was not accepted?

Fair to whom? GCs not to us, it was totally unaccpetable as Famagusta Port is open and functioning under the TRNC why should we share it and give you Maras/Varosha at the same time??? If you are willing to share all your ports with us under the same conditions would that be OK with you??? then we could open Maras and work toether to rebuild the city and trust between our communities..

So, Famagusta port is open and is functioning under "TRNC" but who recognise the puppet state? Noone except Tr, exports and imports are made to and from Tr ONLY.
So, is it the same like trading with the whole world? No.

Who would benefit if the proposal of Cy government was accepted? Both Gcs & Tcs.
Gcs refugees from Famagusta would go back to their birth place and the Tcs would start trading with all the other countries.
Plus, Tcs and Gcs would have been very busy rebuilding the town you distroyed.
Plus, Tcs and Gcs would come closer through all this situation.

Cy government has offered Larnaca port to be used by Tcs as well but there was no interest in that proposal from Tc part.

But I forgot, your slogan is "We want everything in exchange of nothing".

[erolz]

So, Famagusta port is open and is functioning under "TRNC" but who recognise the puppet state? Noone except Tr,

And now Azerbijan as well

exports and imports are made to and from Tr ONLY.
So, is it the same like trading with the whole world? No.

That's curious. I wonder how my houshold goods got from the UK to here when I moved, or how my satellite dish did the same? Actualy if you look at the EU restrictions on the north they ahve always been on exports and not imports. There is nothing stopping EU countries (or others for that matter) exporting to the TRNC and shipping goods directly here.

But I forgot, your slogan is "We want everything in exchange of nothing".

and there was me thinking that was the slogan of some of the GC posters here.

[MicAtCyp]

Best proof Erol all this embargo is just propaganda fairy tales. In fact you have everything working like a clock. Why complaining?

[erolz]

Best proof Erol all this embargo is just propaganda fairy tales. In fact you have everything working like a clock. Why complaining?

Not quite. We can import (buy things) directly from EU but we can not export (sell things) to them directly. Of course we can do so via Turkey. So if TC being forced to export through Turkey and onlty Turkey - thus cemeting and reinforcing our dependence on them is 'working like clockwork' either for GC or TC, then maybe. To me this is less than ideal for both Cypriot communites.

[JustAnAmerican]

In our view the reunification process is currently at its lowest.

Who is "our"?

Filitsa, I work for the US goverment here in Cyprus. My opinions are just mine, but the views concerning the current state of reunification are pretty much shared by most Americans here.

[JustAnAmerican]

JustAnAmerican

In our view the reunification process is currently at its lowest.

I will agree with you but not many Gcs can see this or apply pressure on their administration to re-evaluate their stance, why dont 25% of their population have a demonstration to voice this opinion.

For some reason they can’t. The popularity of the current top GoC government officials is very high. No one can explain it, except that they are strongly supported and very well liked. There are leaders in other governments that share less popularity, but have the ability to get more things done. The whole dynamic makes your country so unique.

[MicAtCyp]

Thats because we cannot be more dynamic using the dynmites your Country is using to move things in a second
Can you help?
We will bring another US junk food franchise in Cyprus on exchange.
Deal?