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[Get Real!]

Applying to the “IPC” is collaboration with the invader!

At the end of the day, applying to this IPC is a full collaboration with the Turkish invader & occupier to legalize the Greek Cypriot ethnic cleansing of 1974!

Nobody should even contemplate going anywhere near this “IPC” because the ENTIRE territory of Cyprus belongs to the RoC and certainly not Turkey, so by accepting their “compensation” you are effectively selling off a part of sovereign Cypriot territory to the illegal invader & occupier thus accommodating Turkish crimes against your country, and committing a gross injustice against your compatriots!

UN RESOLUTION 361 (1974)
http://www.un.int/cyprus/scr353.htm

UN RESOLUTION 541 (1983)
http://www.un.int/cyprus/scr541.htm

[halil]

Who gives ............ people are after the their losses ....

[erolz3]

The IPC's purpose and function is to offer a valid local means for GC who lost property as a result of the events of 74 fair legal redress for that loss. It was set up under the rulings of the ECHR has been validated byt the ECHR and remains overseen by the ECHR. Its existance or its use confers no legitimacy to the TRNC or to Turkeys right to remain in Cyprus. If via it as a GC you can gain restitution of your property then you have not sold any part of cyprus or its soveringty. If you take compensation either monetary or alternate property and the current user of the land you take compensation for is a cypriot then all you have done is sold part of cyprus to a cypriot. If the current user is a non cypriot then compensation represent selling part of cyprus to a non cypriot and is no different from the thousands of cypriots who have sold parts of cyprus to non cypriots that were unaffected by the events of 74.

[paliometoxo]

the eu are not stupid they probably new most if not all gcs will refuse to go to the turkish side for this ipc rubbish the eu decided to recognise, i think their main concern was to get the gcs off their back with so many thousands of court cases

[wallace]

Applying to the “IPC” is collaboration with the invader!

At the end of the day, applying to this IPC is a full collaboration with the Turkish invader & occupier to legalize the Greek Cypriot ethnic cleansing of 1974!

Nobody should even contemplate going anywhere near this “IPC” because the ENTIRE territory of Cyprus belongs to the RoC and certainly not Turkey, so by accepting their “compensation” you are effectively selling off a part of sovereign Cypriot territory to the illegal invader & occupier thus accommodating Turkish crimes against your country, and committing a gross injustice against your compatriots!

UN RESOLUTION 361 (1974)
http://www.un.int/cyprus/scr353.htm

UN RESOLUTION 541 (1983)
http://www.un.int/cyprus/scr541.htm

Try explaining that to the poor sods who've been waiting for 36 odd years to go back to their land and do not believe their own goverment anymore. Please tell us what these people should do now with this ECHR decision? Wait another 36 years? Instead of telling them what not to do, tell them what they should do.

[Jerry]

Accepting exchange or restitution is not selling off Cyprus. Go to the IPC and decline offers of compensation and show the IPC up for the sham that it is. How can a "commission" based in the north with a TC majority be impartial; the least the ECHR could have said was that they will closely monitor the work of the IPC - it couldn't even be bothered to say that. The few people that are offered restitution are unlikely to be able to enjoy the use of their property in the north, they won't get the necessary permits from the "trnc". Fair exchange is the only viable remedy on offer from the IPC but that will involve a degree of co-operation from the ROC for it to be effective. The IPC has, in effect, said that a carpetbagger who bought a holiday property in the north a few months ago has a greater right to it than a GC whose family may have owned it for centuries - it's a fucking scandal.

This ECHR decision is the biggest disaster to befall the ROC since 1974. We have international law on our side but Turkey has outwitted us with its waiting game. It's time to called Turkey's bluff, demand partition and see how much of Cyprus they really want; they are going to get it in the end so let's do it now before they take it all. The thieves on CY44 are already talking about taking Varosha

BTW, applications to the IPC have to be submitted before 21st December 2011

[B25]

The ECHR is a sham, it is a disgrace and a kick in the teeth for the avarage human. What rights have they secured by giving legitimacy to Turkey the invader. Fuck Turkey and the ECHR. They are cowards and have made a grave error of judgement.

I urge every GC NOT to go to the IPC, to do so would be to endorse the legitimacy ot Turkey over Cyprus.

Our Givernment had better do something drastic and fast, what a bunch of wankers they are.

To any member who has any connections in RoC government I demand that you get them to work and quash this shit of a decision.

Not even a logical thinking person could have arrived at such a poor piss pot result, what the hell were they thinking, and how much did it cost Turkey to get this????

Fuck Hell, ma pou ekataliksame re gamoto.

[Gasman]

This ECHR decision is the biggest disaster to befall the ROC since 1974.

But only yesterday some of the forum GC stalwarts were saying it was GOOD NEWS?

As for the waiting game. Well, the answer to that is for both sides to come to an acceptable solution isn't it?

If either one (or both) of them will not accept that there will have to be some 'compromise' and that things can never go back in time to be exactly as they were pre 1974 (neither in the North, nor the South), that solution will always elude them.

And it does seem as if it is being said that if the GCs do not want to use the IPC they can instead wait for this elusive 'solution'.

Something's gotta give. Sometime, surely?

[Paphitis]

Applying to the “IPC” is collaboration with the invader!

At the end of the day, applying to this IPC is a full collaboration with the Turkish invader & occupier to legalize the Greek Cypriot ethnic cleansing of 1974!

Nobody should even contemplate going anywhere near this “IPC” because the ENTIRE territory of Cyprus belongs to the RoC and certainly not Turkey, so by accepting their “compensation” you are effectively selling off a part of sovereign Cypriot territory to the illegal invader & occupier thus accommodating Turkish crimes against your country, and committing a gross injustice against your compatriots!

UN RESOLUTION 361 (1974)
http://www.un.int/cyprus/scr353.htm

UN RESOLUTION 541 (1983)
http://www.un.int/cyprus/scr541.htm

Mr Achilleas Demetriades is advising us differently.

We got his initial correspondence today. It seems that GCs will have the opportunity to exhaust the IPC avenue, followed by the high court and then re-apply to the ECHR if they demand full restitution on top of the pecuniary and non pecuniary loses.

Negotiations have already begun between Achileas Demetriades and other Turkish lawyers.

I think the GCs will prefer to wait for legal advise from their trusted lawyer.

[Gasman]

Yes, Paphitis, that's how I read it but it does seem to say that they have to exhaust the IPC route first (unless they prefer to wait for a solution to the Cyprus problem), before they can continue on down the other routes.

Not that they can refuse to have anything to do with the IPC and go straight for the Courts/ECHR. If they refuse to deal with IPC they can wait for the 'solution'. Or have I got it all wrong?