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[Get Real!]

Can anyone in the south tell us how the news was taken and are there GCs getting ready to apply, those who have gone to the ECHR have to now apply to the IPC whats happening south of the border?

I will apply....just to prove that it is a scam. Then back to the ECHR again.

Is there anything similar in the south?

Luckily, you haven't lost any property.

[Viewpoint]

Can anyone in the south tell us how the news was taken and are there GCs getting ready to apply, those who have gone to the ECHR have to now apply to the IPC whats happening south of the border?

I will apply....just to prove that it is a scam. Then back to the ECHR again.

Is there anything similar in the south?

Luckily, you haven't lost any property.

But I have to live south of the border for 6 months whereas you dont, isnt that discrimination?

[Get Real!]

Can anyone in the south tell us how the news was taken and are there GCs getting ready to apply, those who have gone to the ECHR have to now apply to the IPC whats happening south of the border?

I will apply....just to prove that it is a scam. Then back to the ECHR again.

Is there anything similar in the south?

Luckily, you haven't lost any property.

But I have to live south of the border for 6 months whereas you dont, isnt that discrimination?

It would definitely be a discrimination against all the fools you've left behind in the occupied territory!

[wallace]

Can anyone in the south tell us how the news was taken and are there GCs getting ready to apply, those who have gone to the ECHR have to now apply to the IPC whats happening south of the border?

I will apply....just to prove that it is a scam. Then back to the ECHR again.

Is there anything similar in the south?

Yep....it's called the RoC recognised worldwide court.

[CopperLine]

It appears that this ECHR story has gotten to your head Erol! The RoC Dept of Land & Surveys is indeed the ONLY authority that can validate land and property transactions in Cyprus, and the RoC government can even introduce legislation making any dealing with the IPC illegal for all RoC citizens.

And there’s NOTHING the ECHR can do about it just as there’s NOTHING the ECHR can do for a GC refugee complaining about their property being denied by Turkey.

The only thing that has gotten to someones head is this idea that because an all GC run RoC government is recognised as legitimate it can do anything it likes, deprive anyone of their rights. It just madness.

By the same token, you seem to think that the illegal invader/occupier can do whatever she likes, so what's good for the goose is good for the gander!

So YES! You’re damn right when you say its madness BECAUSE:

If international law in the form of UN Resolutions, is NOT valid, or is SOMETIMES valid, then sooner or later this ambiguity will come back to haunt you!

If and when we ALL decide to abide by international law, we just may start to see the light of day in Cyprus, and everywhere else in the world!

What is your problem GetReal ? The ECHR is a convention of international law. The Court created by the ECHR is a juridical body of international law. What can you mean that the ECHR 'cannot do anything about it' ? ECHR is no less international law than UN Security Council resolutions (and many legal scholars and practitioners would argue that it is far more international law than UNSC resolutions).
And then as if to compound mistakes with ignorance you, who keep going on about UN resolutions and the importance of complying with international law say that RoC "is indeed the ONLY authority that can validate land and property", when the very fact that Cypriots, GC and TC have taken cases to ECJ and ECHR on property issues is manifest evidence that RoC does not have the final legal say on these matters. Unless, that is, you think that RoC should breach its treaty commitments and break international law ?

[erolz3]

Can anyone in the south tell us how the news was taken and are there GCs getting ready to apply, those who have gone to the ECHR have to now apply to the IPC whats happening south of the border?

I will apply....just to prove that it is a scam. Then back to the ECHR again.

Yeah because obviously you are 'clever' and the ECHR that deemed it a valid local means of remedy after years of deliberation and consideration of its actions to date are 'stupid' and once you point this out to the ECHR they will say 'doh! we are stupid and this GC is clever, we better reverse our decision'

Good luck with that one. Hope you have money to burn.

Oh and I so hope you go to the IPC and ask for return of your property and they give it to you along with a lump of cash for loss of use. What will you do then ?

[erolz3]

What is your problem GetReal ? The ECHR is a convention of international law. The Court created by the ECHR is a juridical body of international law. What can you mean that the ECHR 'cannot do anything about it' ? ECHR is no less international law than UN Security Council resolutions (and many legal scholars and practitioners would argue that it is far more international law than UNSC resolutions).
And then as if to compound mistakes with ignorance you, who keep going on about UN resolutions and the importance of complying with international law say that RoC "is indeed the ONLY authority that can validate land and property", when the very fact that Cypriots, GC and TC have taken cases to ECJ and ECHR on property issues is manifest evidence that RoC does not have the final legal say on these matters. Unless, that is, you think that RoC should breach its treaty commitments and break international law ?

Thanks copperline - some sense at last.

The only way the RoC could be free of ECHR jurisdiction would be to leave the CoE, which in turn would be I believe a breach of it EU accession terms, so they copuld leave the EU as well. Then its true the ECHR could not force you to do anything.

Good luck with that one GR.

[Viewpoint]

Can anyone in the south tell us how the news was taken and are there GCs getting ready to apply, those who have gone to the ECHR have to now apply to the IPC whats happening south of the border?

I will apply....just to prove that it is a scam. Then back to the ECHR again.

Is there anything similar in the south?

Luckily, you haven't lost any property.

But I have to live south of the border for 6 months whereas you dont, isnt that discrimination?

It would definitely be a discrimination against all the fools you've left behind in the occupied territory!

Always the clown why dont you try to stick to answering the questions I know its real hard for your attention span limitations an all.

[Viewpoint]

Can anyone in the south tell us how the news was taken and are there GCs getting ready to apply, those who have gone to the ECHR have to now apply to the IPC whats happening south of the border?

I will apply....just to prove that it is a scam. Then back to the ECHR again.

Is there anything similar in the south?

Yep....it's called the RoC recognised worldwide court.

Havent you heard we are discriminated against in those courts, its clear from the number of cases suspended awaiting a solution and those GC cases processed.

[wallace]

Can anyone in the south tell us how the news was taken and are there GCs getting ready to apply, those who have gone to the ECHR have to now apply to the IPC whats happening south of the border?

I will apply....just to prove that it is a scam. Then back to the ECHR again.

Yeah because obviously you are 'clever' and the ECHR that deemed it a valid local means of remedy after years of deliberation and consideration of its actions to date are 'stupid' and once you point this out to the ECHR they will say 'doh! we are stupid and this GC is clever, we better reverse our decision'

Good luck with that one. Hope you have money to burn.

Oh and I so hope you go to the IPC and ask for return of your property and they give it to you along with a lump of cash for loss of use. What will you do then ?

The thing the IPC and the dumb fucks will do after this decision is offer peanuts to the people that will go there. Just give it a couple of months. The real face of this scam will be shown to the world. And if they return my properties and give me the cash I will wait for a solution and do with it what I want which is not the case at this moment.