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[erolz3]

It doesn't matter if they thought of it or not. Turkey can try to satisfy individual refugees and maybe she will. But in order for any land transaction in Cyprus to be official and legal it has to be approved by the Land Registry of Cyprus. Say i give you a plot in Limassol and you give me 100.000 for it. We can be both happy with the transaction we made between us. But if that transaction is not approved by the Land Registry then it never becomes legal and official and basically you can not have legal title deeds for the land you paid for.

The land registry in the RoC can not refuse to register a sale that has the consent of all parties without denying the person involved rights. If you think the RoC land registry can invalidate a sale the ECHR considers legal and valid you are living in cloud cuckoo land. Having the recognised government of Cyprus in your sole control does not mean you can ignore peoples rights as and when you feel like it, though the fact that you seem to think it does is indicative as to why TC feel the need for a degree of political equality of the communites in any settlement.

It appears that this ECHR story has gotten to your head Erol! The RoC Dept of Land & Surveys is indeed the ONLY authority that can validate land and property transactions in Cyprus, and the RoC government can even introduce legislation making any dealing with the IPC illegal for all RoC citizens.
And there’s NOTHING the ECHR can do about it just as there’s NOTHING the ECHR can do for a GC refugee complaining about their property being denied by Turkey.

The RoC should get to work immediately and draw up this legislation, in fact it should also go one step further and fine or charge huge sums for such transfer to GCs comtemplating this move.

Come on RoC show some spine FFS.

You guys are nuts !

If the RoC makes a law that prevents GC from gaining redress for their lost property from a body that was setup under orders from the ECHR as a means to ensuring GC could get such redress for their lost property what do you think will happen ? All that will happen is you will have a new rouind of ECHR case where the defandant is the RoC and not Turkey for it will be the RoC that is denying those GC the ability to get fair redress for their lost property.

Guys you are loosing it big time.

This is NOT about 'GC' vs 'TC' or about us winning and you loosing. This is about those Cypriots who have lost and suffered getting fair redress for that loss and suffering. Cypriots being able to get fair redress for their lost property is GOOD - its good for them and it s good for Cyprus and Cypriots whole. And you want to find ways to 'stop' all this ? You want to stop GC from being able to get fair redress ? You are insane.

[Vincehugo]

Bullshit erolz....It's the IPC and after that the ECHR again. No such a thing as going to your so called "trnc" high court. It's like GR says....get your facts right.

The process is clear wallace. You goto the IPC. If you are not happy with decision and want to challenge it you first have to challeng it in court. Turkey as the putable party can and will decide which court will handle that. They can and will choose a court in North Cyprus to do it. The ECHR will consider that to be the 'agent' deemed by Turkey to be responsible for any such appeal. That it will be in the TRNC, with TRNC judges does not amtter to the ECHR. If you fail to get the satisfaction that you desire from that court THEN you will be able to file an application to the ECHR having exhausted all local remedies. Just going to the IPC without challenging its decision in a local court is not having exhausted all local remedies. Call a court of Turkey if you like, but it will be situated in North Cyprus and presided over by norther Cypriot judges.

Bullshit....I do not recognise the north like the rest of the world! The appeal will be the ECHR. Your so called local remedy is Turkish not "trnc". The ECHR has clearly stated that the "trnc" does not exist so it can surely not expect people to go to unrecognised courts. Keep on dreaming. The recognition you are searching for will not happen. This IPC scam are delaying tactics and nothing else! It will backfire on you sooner then later. And I don't give a fuck what anybody says.....I will be one of them that will prove it is a scam.

What the ECHR has said is that TRNC is just an extension of Turkey, so if it makes you happier you can attend a Turkish court . . located in the "TRNC".

[Get Real!]

The “IPC” is obviously a scam used by the illegal invader and occupier of Cyprus (Turkey) to formalize and legitimize the ethnic cleansing of Greek Cypriots from their rightful properties that began in July 1974!

[Vincehugo]

The “IPC” is obviously a scam used by the illegal invader and occupier of Cyprus (Turkey) to formalize and legitimize the ethnic cleansing of Greek Cypriots from their rightful properties that began in July 1974!

Until ever so recently Human Rights was the underlying principle of your claim, yet when you go to the ECHR asking for their support and they have a very different view of the situation they, and their accepted domestic remedy, the IPC, suddenly become the devil incarnate.

[Get Real!]

The “IPC” is obviously a scam used by the illegal invader and occupier of Cyprus (Turkey) to formalize and legitimize the ethnic cleansing of Greek Cypriots from their rightful properties that began in July 1974!

Until ever so recently Human Rights was the underlying principle of your claim, yet when you go to the ECHR asking for their support and they have a very different view of the situation they, and their accepted domestic remedy, the IPC, suddenly become the devil incarnate.

Isn't it obvious to you that this "IPC" facilitates Turkey’s desired partition?

[wallace]

Bullshit erolz....It's the IPC and after that the ECHR again. No such a thing as going to your so called "trnc" high court. It's like GR says....get your facts right.

The process is clear wallace. You goto the IPC. If you are not happy with decision and want to challenge it you first have to challeng it in court. Turkey as the putable party can and will decide which court will handle that. They can and will choose a court in North Cyprus to do it. The ECHR will consider that to be the 'agent' deemed by Turkey to be responsible for any such appeal. That it will be in the TRNC, with TRNC judges does not amtter to the ECHR. If you fail to get the satisfaction that you desire from that court THEN you will be able to file an application to the ECHR having exhausted all local remedies. Just going to the IPC without challenging its decision in a local court is not having exhausted all local remedies. Call a court of Turkey if you like, but it will be situated in North Cyprus and presided over by norther Cypriot judges.

Bullshit....I do not recognise the north like the rest of the world! The appeal will be the ECHR. Your so called local remedy is Turkish not "trnc". The ECHR has clearly stated that the "trnc" does not exist so it can surely not expect people to go to unrecognised courts. Keep on dreaming. The recognition you are searching for will not happen. This IPC scam are delaying tactics and nothing else! It will backfire on you sooner then later. And I don't give a fuck what anybody says.....I will be one of them that will prove it is a scam.

What the ECHR has said is that TRNC is just an extension of Turkey, so if it makes you happier you can attend a Turkish court . . located in the "TRNC".

Get your facts right! The ECHR says the IPC is a turkisch local remedy. It does not recognise the "trnc" nor sees it as an extension. It's a tactics delaying scam which will backfire on you very soon. Watch my words. They made you happy with a dead mouse.

[Viewpoint]

Can anyone in the south tell us how the news was taken and are there GCs getting ready to apply, those who have gone to the ECHR have to now apply to the IPC whats happening south of the border?

[Get Real!]

Can anyone in the south tell us how the news was taken and are there GCs getting ready to apply, those who have gone to the ECHR have to now apply to the IPC whats happening south of the border?

Today's news on all channels was more interested about a corpse…

[wallace]

Can anyone in the south tell us how the news was taken and are there GCs getting ready to apply, those who have gone to the ECHR have to now apply to the IPC whats happening south of the border?

I will apply....just to prove that it is a scam. Then back to the ECHR again.

[Viewpoint]

Can anyone in the south tell us how the news was taken and are there GCs getting ready to apply, those who have gone to the ECHR have to now apply to the IPC whats happening south of the border?

I will apply....just to prove that it is a scam. Then back to the ECHR again.

Is there anything similar in the south?