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[Oracle]

Firstly, since the ECHR did not stipulate what measures and timescale were deemed effective to exhaust an application to the IPC, it indicates the lack of serious thought behind this knee-jerk reaction of a CoE presently presided over by Turks.

Secondly, since the whole of Cyprus belongs to the RoC, "selling" your house or exchanging it, whatever, does NOT attach any loss to the sovereignty of the RoC. Cyprus belongs to the RoC whether a house belongs to a Turk, a Pole or a GC.

Cyprus is not for sale!

Estate Agents do NOT sell sovereignty ... they just sell the heritable rights to a home ... not to independently govern the piece of land!

Whether Turkey gives these applicants any compensation or not makes no difference to the fact the land, all the land, belongs to the RoC.

It's a private, economic, matter, not a political matter.

[miltiades]

I think we ought to make it clear that the ECHR must not be confused with the European Court of Justice, the highest court of the European Union. However The Court of Justice of the European Union although not related to the ECHR in a legal sense through convention however since all members of the EU are signatories to the Convention on Human Rights, decisions by the ECHR can not be dismissed as if not relevant to EU insitutions bearing in mind that though the EU HAS NOT OFFICIALY joined the Convention on Human Rights it is nevertheless bound by the EU treaty of Nice to respect decisions by the ECHR.

[Sotos]

Firstly, since the ECHR did not stipulate what measures and timescale were deemed effective to exhaust an application to the IPC, it indicates the lack of serious thought behind this knee-jerk reaction of a CoE presently presided over by Turks.

Secondly, since the whole of Cyprus belongs to the RoC, "selling" your house or exchanging it, whatever, does NOT attach any loss to the sovereignty of the RoC. Cyprus belongs to the RoC whether a house belongs to a Turk, a Pole or a GC.

Cyprus is not for sale!

Estate Agents do NOT sell sovereignty ... they just sell the heritable rights to a home ... not to independently govern the piece of land!

Whether Turkey gives these applicants any compensation or not makes no difference to the fact the land, all the land, belongs to the RoC.

It's a private, economic, matter, not a political matter.

That is right Oracle! And any sale or exchange of private property has to be approved by the Land Registry of Cyprus in order to be valid. Therefore if a refugee comes to an agreement to sell his property to the "IPC" then both the refugee and the "IPC" should apply to the land registry in order to make this transaction official. Otherwise the transaction is invalid.

[B25]

Firstly, since the ECHR did not stipulate what measures and timescale were deemed effective to exhaust an application to the IPC, it indicates the lack of serious thought behind this knee-jerk reaction of a CoE presently presided over by Turks.

Secondly, since the whole of Cyprus belongs to the RoC, "selling" your house or exchanging it, whatever, does NOT attach any loss to the sovereignty of the RoC. Cyprus belongs to the RoC whether a house belongs to a Turk, a Pole or a GC.

Cyprus is not for sale!

Estate Agents do NOT sell sovereignty ... they just sell the heritable rights to a home ... not to independently govern the piece of land!

Whether Turkey gives these applicants any compensation or not makes no difference to the fact the land, all the land, belongs to the RoC.

It's a private, economic, matter, not a political matter.

That is right Oracle! And any sale or exchange of private property has to be approved by the Land Registry of Cyprus in order to be valid. Therefore if a refugee comes to an agreement to sell his property to the "IPC" then both the refugee and the "IPC" should apply to the land registry in order to make this transaction official. Otherwise the transaction is invalid.

Soto, the European Crap Headcase Rascals (ECHR) probably never even thought of this process, in there attempt to fuck us over yet again they just made this knee jerk reaction to appease the MF turks, again!

[Sotos]

Firstly, since the ECHR did not stipulate what measures and timescale were deemed effective to exhaust an application to the IPC, it indicates the lack of serious thought behind this knee-jerk reaction of a CoE presently presided over by Turks.

Secondly, since the whole of Cyprus belongs to the RoC, "selling" your house or exchanging it, whatever, does NOT attach any loss to the sovereignty of the RoC. Cyprus belongs to the RoC whether a house belongs to a Turk, a Pole or a GC.

Cyprus is not for sale!

Estate Agents do NOT sell sovereignty ... they just sell the heritable rights to a home ... not to independently govern the piece of land!

Whether Turkey gives these applicants any compensation or not makes no difference to the fact the land, all the land, belongs to the RoC.

It's a private, economic, matter, not a political matter.

That is right Oracle! And any sale or exchange of private property has to be approved by the Land Registry of Cyprus in order to be valid. Therefore if a refugee comes to an agreement to sell his property to the "IPC" then both the refugee and the "IPC" should apply to the land registry in order to make this transaction official. Otherwise the transaction is invalid.

Soto, the European Crap Headcase Rascals (ECHR) probably never even thought of this process, in there attempt to fuck us over yet again they just made this knee jerk reaction to appease the MF turks, again!

It doesn't matter if they thought of it or not. Turkey can try to satisfy individual refugees and maybe she will. But in order for any land transaction in Cyprus to be official and legal it has to be approved by the Land Registry of Cyprus. Say i give you a plot in Limassol and you give me 100.000 for it. We can be both happy with the transaction we made between us. But if that transaction is not approved by the Land Registry then it never becomes legal and official and basically you can not have legal title deeds for the land you paid for.

[erolz3]

It doesn't matter if they thought of it or not. Turkey can try to satisfy individual refugees and maybe she will. But in order for any land transaction in Cyprus to be official and legal it has to be approved by the Land Registry of Cyprus. Say i give you a plot in Limassol and you give me 100.000 for it. We can be both happy with the transaction we made between us. But if that transaction is not approved by the Land Registry then it never becomes legal and official and basically you can not have legal title deeds for the land you paid for.

The land registry in the RoC can not refuse to register a sale that has the consent of all parties without denying the person involved rights. If you think the RoC land registry can invalidate a sale the ECHR considers legal and valid you are living in cloud cuckoo land. Having the recognised government of Cyprus in your sole control does not mean you can ignore peoples rights as and when you feel like it, though the fact that you seem to think it does is indicative as to why TC feel the need for a degree of political equality of the communites in any settlement.

[Oracle]

It doesn't matter if they thought of it or not. Turkey can try to satisfy individual refugees and maybe she will. But in order for any land transaction in Cyprus to be official and legal it has to be approved by the Land Registry of Cyprus. Say i give you a plot in Limassol and you give me 100.000 for it. We can be both happy with the transaction we made between us. But if that transaction is not approved by the Land Registry then it never becomes legal and official and basically you can not have legal title deeds for the land you paid for.

The land registry in the RoC can not refuse to register a sale that has the consent of all parties without denying the person involved rights. If you think the RoC land registry can invalidate a sale the ECHR considers legal and valid you are living in cloud cuckoo land. Having the recognised government of Cyprus in your sole control does not mean you can ignore peoples rights as and when you feel like it, though the fact that you seem to think it does is indicative as to why TC feel the need for a degree of political equality of the communites in any settlement.

You conveniently forget that one entity (the occupier as specified and identified by the ECHR as being Turkey) is an illegal invader and hence has ZERO rights!

Thanks to the neglected, positive aspects of the CoE.

[Sotos]

It doesn't matter if they thought of it or not. Turkey can try to satisfy individual refugees and maybe she will. But in order for any land transaction in Cyprus to be official and legal it has to be approved by the Land Registry of Cyprus. Say i give you a plot in Limassol and you give me 100.000 for it. We can be both happy with the transaction we made between us. But if that transaction is not approved by the Land Registry then it never becomes legal and official and basically you can not have legal title deeds for the land you paid for.

The land registry in the RoC can not refuse to register a sale that has the consent of all parties without denying the person involved rights. If you think the RoC land registry can invalidate a sale the ECHR considers legal and valid you are living in cloud cuckoo land. Having the recognised government of Cyprus in your sole control does not mean you can ignore peoples rights as and when you feel like it, though the fact that you seem to think it does is indicative as to why TC feel the need for a degree of political equality of the communites in any settlement.

The land registry can refuse any transaction that doesn't meet the requirements. There are restrictions of who can buy what and how much especially when it comes to none EU foreigners and properties under special status. You are living in an illegal pseudo state so you don't know how real countries work. The refugee will get money which will be considered as compensation for the loss of use and he will still keep the property registered on his name. So whose rights are ignored? Definitely not the rights of our refugee!!!! So our refugee will not complain to the ECHR. So who will? Turkey? Turkey is not a human so she can not apply to the European Court of Human Rights

[Sotos]

You tried this "exchange" property before and one would think that by now you would understand that the only title deeds that matter are those issued by the Land Registry of Republic of Cyprus! Now you are trying again but again you will not get any legal and official title deeds for any of our land. But you should pay compensation for the loss of use of our properties! So start paying!!

[Malapapa]

The land registry can refuse any transaction that doesn't meet the requirements. There are restrictions of who can buy what and how much especially when it comes to none EU foreigners and properties under special status. You are living in an illegal pseudo state so you don't know how real countries work. The refugee will get money which will be considered as compensation for the loss of use and he will still keep the property registered on his name. So whose rights are ignored? Definitely not the rights of our refugee!!!! So our refugee will not complain to the ECHR. So who will? Turkey? Turkey is not a human so she can not apply to the European Court of Human Rights

Is there a European Court of Inhuman Rights? Turkey could definitely apply there.