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Postby Sotos » Wed Mar 10, 2010 5:01 pm

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DTA wrote:30,000?


At least. And those are only the murders recorded in History.


In 1974 30,000 greek civilian (non combatants) were killed?


You think Turks were killing Cypriots just in 1974? :lol: In 74 about 6000 people were killed. The 1619 missing are all dead as well probably. And that is JUST from 1974!
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Postby DTA » Wed Mar 10, 2010 5:41 pm

Sotos wrote:
DTA wrote:
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DTA wrote:30,000?


At least. And those are only the murders recorded in History.


In 1974 30,000 greek civilian (non combatants) were killed?


You think Turks were killing Cypriots just in 1974? :lol: In 74 about 6000 people were killed. The 1619 missing are all dead as well probably. And that is JUST from 1974!


So the 30,000 figure is not from 74 then? so why bring it up?

so out of the 6,000 killed ad 1619 missing how many were combatants?
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Postby Sotos » Wed Mar 10, 2010 5:53 pm

DTA wrote:
Sotos wrote:
DTA wrote:
Sotos wrote:
DTA wrote:30,000?


At least. And those are only the murders recorded in History.


In 1974 30,000 greek civilian (non combatants) were killed?


You think Turks were killing Cypriots just in 1974? :lol: In 74 about 6000 people were killed. The 1619 missing are all dead as well probably. And that is JUST from 1974!


So the 30,000 figure is not from 74 then? so why bring it up?

so out of the 6,000 killed ad 1619 missing how many were combatants?


Makes no difference. Are you saying that 18 year old boys trying to defend their country and their families from the foreign invaders are not innocent?
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Postby DTA » Wed Mar 10, 2010 6:28 pm

Sotos wrote:
DTA wrote:
Sotos wrote:
DTA wrote:
Sotos wrote:
DTA wrote:30,000?


At least. And those are only the murders recorded in History.


In 1974 30,000 greek civilian (non combatants) were killed?


You think Turks were killing Cypriots just in 1974? :lol: In 74 about 6000 people were killed. The 1619 missing are all dead as well probably. And that is JUST from 1974!


So the 30,000 figure is not from 74 then? so why bring it up?

so out of the 6,000 killed ad 1619 missing how many were combatants?


Makes no difference. Are you saying that 18 year old boys trying to defend their country and their families from the foreign invaders are not innocent?


I think that combatant deaths should be separated from civilians, there is a huge difference.

And if you pick up a gun, it is either shoot or be shot.
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Postby boulio » Wed Mar 10, 2010 6:47 pm

one idea being floated by the ROC is for people to go to the IPC BUT to only sue for lose of use,there for the property still stays with the owner and the admission of lose will be against turkey.if the ipc declines in any way to pay for just lose of property it will be immediatly sent back to the EHRC AND the whole desciosn will be challenged again.
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Postby Viewpoint » Wed Mar 10, 2010 7:17 pm

Its either restitution or compensation for loss of property nothing else is on offer and the ECHR knew this when they gave the IPC their seal of approval.
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Postby Vincehugo » Wed Mar 10, 2010 7:37 pm

boulio wrote:one idea being floated by the ROC is for people to go to the IPC BUT to only sue for lose of use,there for the property still stays with the owner and the admission of lose will be against turkey.if the ipc declines in any way to pay for just lose of property it will be immediatly sent back to the EHRC AND the whole desciosn will be challenged again.


From the IPC FAQ

Can the Commission rule for only loss of use and compensation for non-pecuniary damages?

No, the Commission is not authorized to rule for only loss of use and compensation for non-pecuniary damages.
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Postby Get Real! » Wed Mar 10, 2010 8:51 pm

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boulio wrote:one idea being floated by the ROC is for people to go to the IPC BUT to only sue for lose of use,there for the property still stays with the owner and the admission of lose will be against turkey.if the ipc declines in any way to pay for just lose of property it will be immediatly sent back to the EHRC AND the whole desciosn will be challenged again.


From the IPC FAQ

Can the Commission rule for only loss of use and compensation for non-pecuniary damages?

No, the Commission is not authorized to rule for only loss of use and compensation for non-pecuniary damages.

Thank you!

Which is exactly why I started this thread!

The “IPC” aims to formalize and legalize the ethnic cleansing of Greek Cypriots from the occupied territory hence...

Nobody should even contemplate going anywhere near this “IPC” because the ENTIRE territory of Cyprus belongs to the RoC and certainly not Turkey, so by accepting their “compensation” you are effectively selling off a part of sovereign Cypriot territory to the illegal invader & occupier thus accommodating Turkish crimes against your country, and committing a gross injustice against your compatriots!

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Postby Vincehugo » Wed Mar 10, 2010 9:05 pm

Get Real! wrote:
Vincehugo wrote:
boulio wrote:one idea being floated by the ROC is for people to go to the IPC BUT to only sue for lose of use,there for the property still stays with the owner and the admission of lose will be against turkey.if the ipc declines in any way to pay for just lose of property it will be immediatly sent back to the EHRC AND the whole desciosn will be challenged again.


From the IPC FAQ

Can the Commission rule for only loss of use and compensation for non-pecuniary damages?

No, the Commission is not authorized to rule for only loss of use and compensation for non-pecuniary damages.

Thank you!

Which is exactly why I started this thread!

The “IPC” aims to formalize and legalize the ethnic cleansing of Greek Cypriots from the occupied territory hence...

Nobody should even contemplate going anywhere near this “IPC” because the ENTIRE territory of Cyprus belongs to the RoC and certainly not Turkey, so by accepting their “compensation” you are effectively selling off a part of sovereign Cypriot territory to the illegal invader & occupier thus accommodating Turkish crimes against your country, and committing a gross injustice against your compatriots!


The IPC can provide compensation for loss of use alongside a claim for restitution,exchange or compensation (for the property itself).

This is not about Turkey buying up the land. It is about Turkey resolving the issue of "dual ownership" so that current users can get on with their lives.

But, as has been said before, if GC's are "prevented" from claiming from the IPC by their compatriots (or Government) it will certainly be a result for Turkey.
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Postby Sotos » Wed Mar 10, 2010 9:24 pm

There is no such thing as "dual ownership". The owner is the one who has the legal title deed and that is only one. And he will sue your asses for trespassing on his land ;)
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