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Postby erolz3 » Wed Mar 10, 2010 2:20 pm

Sotos wrote:That is peanuts for that amount of land!! In Limassol you can barely buy two plots (1000sq. meters) for that amount! Such sales are forced sales. The Turks illegally occupy our properties and then when we really need the money they come and give us some peanuts because it is better than nothing! Criminal crooks!


You do not get it do you. You want the GC to have NO CHOICE. You would rather he had no OPTION to recieve over 1/2 million sterling but continue to suffer indefinately. You are mad.

As to the value of the plot, comparing it to limasol make no more sense than comparing it to Hong Kong. It is not IN limasol. In fact you have no idea where it is at all or what a fair market price is for it today.
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Postby Sotos » Wed Mar 10, 2010 2:25 pm

erolz3 wrote:
Sotos wrote:That is peanuts for that amount of land!! In Limassol you can barely buy two plots (1000sq. meters) for that amount! Such sales are forced sales. The Turks illegally occupy our properties and then when we really need the money they come and give us some peanuts because it is better than nothing! Criminal crooks!


You do not get it do you. You want the GC to have NO CHOICE. You would rather he had no OPTION to recieve over 1/2 million sterling but continue to suffer indefinately. You are mad.

As to the value of the plot, comparing it to limasol make no more sense than comparing it to Hong Kong. It is not IN limasol. In fact you have no idea where it is at all or what a fair market price is for it today.


You are a criminal and you illegally occupy our land and you are trying to force us to sell it because you don't allow us to freely enjoy it! The death penalty should be introduced in Cyprus to deal with criminals like yourself!
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Postby DTA » Wed Mar 10, 2010 2:27 pm

DT. wrote:
halil wrote:
wallace wrote:
YFred wrote:
wallace wrote:
erolz3 wrote:
wallace wrote: Take it to the ECHR...they may come up with a scam like they did for us 8) 8)


It is exactly because the RoC knows it has been denying TC rights and in order to avoid having the ECHR impose a solution like the IPC on it that it settled the Sofi case days before it was to be heard by the ECHR, paying her 100's of thousands of euros in compensation for having denied her rights.


Maybe it has....maybe it hasn't. There is a procedure in place for the TC's to claim their property back. Now let's wait and see how long this IPC scam will last. :lol:

Rather twisted an idea you have to call having to go to courts and claim your land back a procedure. A procedure is what TRNC has put in place, no need for lawyers, just fill in the form. I wish such a thing was available in the south for us. What a criminal world we live in, yet another avenue for GCs to get their land back but none for us.
Interesting times we live in.


It's not really another avenue to get land back YFred. Somebody else will decide what people can get back and what not. If you ask me personally there shouldn't be any procedures in place in the first place. All have a right to their lands.....being it GC's or TC's with the basic human right of freedom of movement. The GC's never agreed with the exchange scam Donktosh set up for the TC's. We'll see how long this so called IPC scam will last. Everybody knows they will be offering peanuts after this ECHR decision.


here is the finilised offershttp://www.kuzeykibristmk.org/dokuman/Bitenler.pdf


Excellent! :D

364K for 8,453 Sq Metres of land in Nicosia :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

I didn't need to read the rest..


That is just over two acres (how many donums in acre?) some of the figures seem very large but it is very difficult to know if they are fair or not without exactly where the land is. BUT it should be noted that the ECHR has ruled that the level of compensation etc is appropriate and fair (and they would not have done so if it wasnt)

So dont be fooled by the ultra nationalist at least apply and see what they offer, as I understand it you will be under no obligation to take their offer.
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Postby Kikapu » Wed Mar 10, 2010 2:31 pm

erolz3 wrote:
Sotos wrote:That is peanuts for that amount of land!! In Limassol you can barely buy two plots (1000sq. meters) for that amount! Such sales are forced sales. The Turks illegally occupy our properties and then when we really need the money they come and give us some peanuts because it is better than nothing! Criminal crooks!


You do not get it do you. You want the GC to have NO CHOICE. You would rather he had no OPTION to recieve over 1/2 million sterling but continue to suffer indefinately. You are mad.

As to the value of the plot, comparing it to limasol make no more sense than comparing it to Hong Kong. It is not IN limasol. In fact you have no idea where it is at all or what a fair market price is for it today.


It was mentioned that it was in Nicosia. Surely, land values in Capital Cities of any country would be worth as much as land values along it's coastal regions, except with few exceptions, of course. I do not think Limassol qualifies as being one of those exceptions, do you, Erol.??
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Postby erolz3 » Wed Mar 10, 2010 2:31 pm

Sotos wrote:You are a criminal and you illegally occupy our land and you are trying to force us to sell it because you don't allow us to freely enjoy it! The death penalty should be introduced in Cyprus to deal with criminals like yourself!


You already tried the 'death penalty' when your minsiter of the interior and others was ordering his armed bands of ethnic paramilitary thugs to go around killing innocent TC for no other reason than they were TC and not GC wioth total impunity. It is why we are in this mess today.
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Postby DTA » Wed Mar 10, 2010 2:32 pm

Sotos wrote:
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DT. wrote:Excellent! :D

364K for 8,453 Sq Metres of land in Nicosia :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

I didn't need to read the rest..


354,000 sterling for a HALF share in the plot + 295,000 sterling compensation for loss of use for this HALF share. Well over 1/2 million sterling in total.

Sure you do not need to read any more. After 30+ years of NOTHING, GC can get this sort of redress if they want , with minimal cost and delay and with nothing binding on them if they do not want.

And you think this is a bad thing ? You would prefer to go back to the option where they can get nothing again, with no choice at all ?


That is peanuts for that amount of land!! In Limassol you can barely buy two plots (1000sq. meters) for that amount! Such sales are forced sales. The Turks illegally occupy our properties and then when we really need the money they come and give us some peanuts because it is better than nothing! Criminal crooks!


It all depends on location does it not? just to say limassol is over simplfying slightly dont you agree?
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Postby erolz3 » Wed Mar 10, 2010 2:35 pm

Kikapu wrote:It was mentioned that it was in Nicosia. Surely, land values in Capital Cities of any country would be worth as much as land values along it's coastal regions, except with few exceptions, of course. I do not think Limassol qualifies as being one of those exceptions, do you, Erol.??


In london the difference in price between one area of Londond and another for the same size plot can be in excess of 2 orders of magnitued (thats 100 times greater for those confused by such terms). Yet with nothing more than a plot number and area size GC posters here know without a doubt that it was an unfair offer. Yet this is one of the very settlements on which the ECHR based it decision as to if the IPC offered fair and legal redress.
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Postby DTA » Wed Mar 10, 2010 2:36 pm

Kikapu wrote:
erolz3 wrote:
Sotos wrote:That is peanuts for that amount of land!! In Limassol you can barely buy two plots (1000sq. meters) for that amount! Such sales are forced sales. The Turks illegally occupy our properties and then when we really need the money they come and give us some peanuts because it is better than nothing! Criminal crooks!


You do not get it do you. You want the GC to have NO CHOICE. You would rather he had no OPTION to recieve over 1/2 million sterling but continue to suffer indefinately. You are mad.

As to the value of the plot, comparing it to limasol make no more sense than comparing it to Hong Kong. It is not IN limasol. In fact you have no idea where it is at all or what a fair market price is for it today.


It was mentioned that it was in Nicosia. Surely, land values in Capital Cities of any country would be worth as much as land values along it's coastal regions, except with few exceptions, of course. I do not think Limassol qualifies as being one of those exceptions, do you, Erol.??


Are you serious? if you have a house in newham is it worth the same as a house in mayfair???

why not they are both in london?

You have no idea where exactly the property in question is located, to argue that it does not represent value for money is completely stupid.

you are either extremely stupid or are on a huge wind up?
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Postby wallace » Wed Mar 10, 2010 2:39 pm

halil wrote:Property issue to be resolved in negotiations not in court

above words are words of the Christofias.............

http://www.cyprus-mail.com/cyprus/prope ... t/20100310


THE PROPERTY issue will be resolved at the negotiating table and not in the courts, President Demetris Christofias said yesterday, commenting on the European Court of Human Rights’ recent decision to recognise the property commission in the occupied north.


Nobody has the right to negotiate someone else his property incl. Christofias/Talat. Court is fine with me. :lol:
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Postby Kikapu » Wed Mar 10, 2010 2:40 pm

erolz3 wrote:
Kikapu wrote:It was mentioned that it was in Nicosia. Surely, land values in Capital Cities of any country would be worth as much as land values along it's coastal regions, except with few exceptions, of course. I do not think Limassol qualifies as being one of those exceptions, do you, Erol.??


In london the difference in price between one area of Londond and another for the same size plot can be in excess of 2 orders of magnitued (thats 100 times greater for those confused by such terms). Yet with nothing more than a plot number and area size GC posters here know without a doubt that it was an unfair offer. Yet this is one of the very settlements on which the ECHR based it decision as to if the IPC offered fair and legal redress.


London is 880 square miles if I remember correctly, so sure prices will vary accordingly, but smaller the place, such as Nicosia is, the less in price differentials.!
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