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[YFred]

The Court maintained its view that pending resolution of the illegal occupation of northern Cyprus, it was crucial that individuals nonetheless continued to receive protection of their rights on a daily basis.

Even if the applicants did not live as such under the control of the “TRNC”, if there was an effective remedy available for their complaints there, the rule of exhaustion applied. This did not put in doubt the fact that the government of the Republic of Cyprus remained the sole legitimate government of Cyprus. The Court reiterated that an appropriate domestic body, with access to the relevant information, was clearly the more appropriate forum for deciding on complex matters of property ownership and valuation and assessing financial compensation, notwithstanding the time and efforts required from the applicants to exhaust domestic remedies.

No one has been able to answer my question at the beginning of this thread.

What is to stop the sole legitimate government of the whole of Cyprus to declare the IPC invalid as an appropriate domestic body, pending approval of the IPCs individual members, policies, procedures, terms of reference and principles by which it awards compensation and/or restitution. Approval could then be made by, say, the Cypriot attorney general, in consultation with the President and leader of the TC community.

Perhaps an island wide IPC could then be set up, to which all displaced Cypriots can apply and where the principles are consistent for all the island. The invader will be removed from the equation (beyond of course paying for the damage it has caused, together with commensurate contributions from the other two guarantor powers who let Cyprus down).

If the roc set up such a body I would agree with you. However if you think they would like to then you are far more naive than I thought possible. They would like it all to go through the roc courts which is in their hands, but allas the EU has finally seen the light and the little games played down south.

No the courts are not in the government hands. But the terms of an island wide IPC, administering all property cases and claims could be administered by the Cypriot attorney general and the terms of reference approved by the president and the TC leader (but not Turkey which would be acting in its own interest but not the Cypriot people, especially not the island's displaced people, north and south).

Stop kidding yoursel. You really should not believe your own propaganda. If the courts are not controlled by the government, how is it that they block all the TC courtcases and tell them to wait for the settlement, whilst they progress the GC cases to EU courts. Please will you stop being so childish.

[Oracle]

The RoC has not done anything wrong!

It is not the one occupying another's land.

The RoC is not the one who forced people out of their properties at gunpoint.

So the RoC does not need to set up anything like an IPC. The IPC is the vehicle of Turkey as an occupying force! Not as a legitimate government.

[YFred]

The RoC has not done anything wrong!

It is not the one occupying another's land.

The RoC is not the one who forced people out of their properties at gunpoint.

So the RoC does not need to set up anything like an IPC. The IPC is the vehicle of Turkey as an occupying force! Not as a legitimate government.

But in the meantime hangs on to stolen TC land and refuses to hand it back. Yeah right, pigs will be flying soon too.

[Malapapa]

The Court maintained its view that pending resolution of the illegal occupation of northern Cyprus, it was crucial that individuals nonetheless continued to receive protection of their rights on a daily basis.

Even if the applicants did not live as such under the control of the “TRNC”, if there was an effective remedy available for their complaints there, the rule of exhaustion applied. This did not put in doubt the fact that the government of the Republic of Cyprus remained the sole legitimate government of Cyprus. The Court reiterated that an appropriate domestic body, with access to the relevant information, was clearly the more appropriate forum for deciding on complex matters of property ownership and valuation and assessing financial compensation, notwithstanding the time and efforts required from the applicants to exhaust domestic remedies.

No one has been able to answer my question at the beginning of this thread.

What is to stop the sole legitimate government of the whole of Cyprus to declare the IPC invalid as an appropriate domestic body, pending approval of the IPCs individual members, policies, procedures, terms of reference and principles by which it awards compensation and/or restitution. Approval could then be made by, say, the Cypriot attorney general, in consultation with the President and leader of the TC community.

Perhaps an island wide IPC could then be set up, to which all displaced Cypriots can apply and where the principles are consistent for all the island. The invader will be removed from the equation (beyond of course paying for the damage it has caused, together with commensurate contributions from the other two guarantor powers who let Cyprus down).

Try taking it to the ECHR...time you realized you have to work with us to solve your problems.

Don't you read? I was talking about working with your leader, and also creating a consistent mechanism whereby all displaced Cypriots could get satisfaction, not just those displaced from the north.

Hello I was saying the same about working with us to solve the land problems but who would actually administer this mechanism?

See my answer to YFred. It could be answerable to the Cypriot attorney general but the members, terms of reference, principles, policies, procedures would need to be approved by the president and the TC leader. The members would need to consist of Cypriots and non-Cypriots, eg. people from the UN, EU, other appropriate international bodies? Perhaps even the guarantor powers, as it would be their money that was being dished out in the main.

[Malapapa]

The Court maintained its view that pending resolution of the illegal occupation of northern Cyprus, it was crucial that individuals nonetheless continued to receive protection of their rights on a daily basis.

Even if the applicants did not live as such under the control of the “TRNC”, if there was an effective remedy available for their complaints there, the rule of exhaustion applied. This did not put in doubt the fact that the government of the Republic of Cyprus remained the sole legitimate government of Cyprus. The Court reiterated that an appropriate domestic body, with access to the relevant information, was clearly the more appropriate forum for deciding on complex matters of property ownership and valuation and assessing financial compensation, notwithstanding the time and efforts required from the applicants to exhaust domestic remedies.

No one has been able to answer my question at the beginning of this thread.

What is to stop the sole legitimate government of the whole of Cyprus to declare the IPC invalid as an appropriate domestic body, pending approval of the IPCs individual members, policies, procedures, terms of reference and principles by which it awards compensation and/or restitution. Approval could then be made by, say, the Cypriot attorney general, in consultation with the President and leader of the TC community.

Perhaps an island wide IPC could then be set up, to which all displaced Cypriots can apply and where the principles are consistent for all the island. The invader will be removed from the equation (beyond of course paying for the damage it has caused, together with commensurate contributions from the other two guarantor powers who let Cyprus down).

If the roc set up such a body I would agree with you. However if you think they would like to then you are far more naive than I thought possible. They would like it all to go through the roc courts which is in their hands, but allas the EU has finally seen the light and the little games played down south.

No the courts are not in the government hands. But the terms of an island wide IPC, administering all property cases and claims could be administered by the Cypriot attorney general and the terms of reference approved by the president and the TC leader (but not Turkey which would be acting in its own interest but not the Cypriot people, especially not the island's displaced people, north and south).

Stop kidding yoursel. You really should not believe your own propaganda. If the courts are not controlled by the government, how is it that they block all the TC courtcases and tell them to wait for the settlement, whilst they progress the GC cases to EU courts. Please will you stop being so childish.

This is a chance to change all that. An island wide IPC.

[Malapapa]

The RoC has not done anything wrong!

It is not the one occupying another's land.

The RoC is not the one who forced people out of their properties at gunpoint.

So the RoC does not need to set up anything like an IPC. The IPC is the vehicle of Turkey as an occupying force! Not as a legitimate government.

I'd rather the RoC administered the way compensation and restitution was paid out to displaced Cypriots, rather than it be an inadequate vehicle and delay tactic of Turkey.

[YFred]

The Court maintained its view that pending resolution of the illegal occupation of northern Cyprus, it was crucial that individuals nonetheless continued to receive protection of their rights on a daily basis.

Even if the applicants did not live as such under the control of the “TRNC”, if there was an effective remedy available for their complaints there, the rule of exhaustion applied. This did not put in doubt the fact that the government of the Republic of Cyprus remained the sole legitimate government of Cyprus. The Court reiterated that an appropriate domestic body, with access to the relevant information, was clearly the more appropriate forum for deciding on complex matters of property ownership and valuation and assessing financial compensation, notwithstanding the time and efforts required from the applicants to exhaust domestic remedies.

No one has been able to answer my question at the beginning of this thread.

What is to stop the sole legitimate government of the whole of Cyprus to declare the IPC invalid as an appropriate domestic body, pending approval of the IPCs individual members, policies, procedures, terms of reference and principles by which it awards compensation and/or restitution. Approval could then be made by, say, the Cypriot attorney general, in consultation with the President and leader of the TC community.

Perhaps an island wide IPC could then be set up, to which all displaced Cypriots can apply and where the principles are consistent for all the island. The invader will be removed from the equation (beyond of course paying for the damage it has caused, together with commensurate contributions from the other two guarantor powers who let Cyprus down).

If the roc set up such a body I would agree with you. However if you think they would like to then you are far more naive than I thought possible. They would like it all to go through the roc courts which is in their hands, but allas the EU has finally seen the light and the little games played down south.

No the courts are not in the government hands. But the terms of an island wide IPC, administering all property cases and claims could be administered by the Cypriot attorney general and the terms of reference approved by the president and the TC leader (but not Turkey which would be acting in its own interest but not the Cypriot people, especially not the island's displaced people, north and south).

Stop kidding yoursel. You really should not believe your own propaganda. If the courts are not controlled by the government, how is it that they block all the TC courtcases and tell them to wait for the settlement, whilst they progress the GC cases to EU courts. Please will you stop being so childish.

This is a chance to change all that. An island wide IPC.

There we are in complete agreement. As the recognised government roc should have done years ago and invite both sides to apply. Perhaps now you can begin to understand the real motives of the roc. Let see if they see the light and set one up for the TCs.

[Viewpoint]

The Court maintained its view that pending resolution of the illegal occupation of northern Cyprus, it was crucial that individuals nonetheless continued to receive protection of their rights on a daily basis.

Even if the applicants did not live as such under the control of the “TRNC”, if there was an effective remedy available for their complaints there, the rule of exhaustion applied. This did not put in doubt the fact that the government of the Republic of Cyprus remained the sole legitimate government of Cyprus. The Court reiterated that an appropriate domestic body, with access to the relevant information, was clearly the more appropriate forum for deciding on complex matters of property ownership and valuation and assessing financial compensation, notwithstanding the time and efforts required from the applicants to exhaust domestic remedies.

No one has been able to answer my question at the beginning of this thread.

What is to stop the sole legitimate government of the whole of Cyprus to declare the IPC invalid as an appropriate domestic body, pending approval of the IPCs individual members, policies, procedures, terms of reference and principles by which it awards compensation and/or restitution. Approval could then be made by, say, the Cypriot attorney general, in consultation with the President and leader of the TC community.

Perhaps an island wide IPC could then be set up, to which all displaced Cypriots can apply and where the principles are consistent for all the island. The invader will be removed from the equation (beyond of course paying for the damage it has caused, together with commensurate contributions from the other two guarantor powers who let Cyprus down).

Try taking it to the ECHR...time you realized you have to work with us to solve your problems.

Don't you read? I was talking about working with your leader, and also creating a consistent mechanism whereby all displaced Cypriots could get satisfaction, not just those displaced from the north.

Hello I was saying the same about working with us to solve the land problems but who would actually administer this mechanism?

See my answer to YFred. It could be answerable to the Cypriot attorney general but the members, terms of reference, principles, policies, procedures would need to be approved by the president and the TC leader. The members would need to consist of Cypriots and non-Cypriots, eg. people from the UN, EU, other appropriate international bodies? Perhaps even the guarantor powers, as it would be their money that was being dished out in the main.

Worth considering why did it take this judgment for you to take us seriously?

[Malapapa]

See my answer to YFred. It could be answerable to the Cypriot attorney general but the members, terms of reference, principles, policies, procedures would need to be approved by the president and the TC leader. The members would need to consist of Cypriots and non-Cypriots, eg. people from the UN, EU, other appropriate international bodies? Perhaps even the guarantor powers, as it would be their money that was being dished out in the main.

Worth considering why did it take this judgment for you to take us seriously?

I've always taken the human rights of all legitimate Cypriot citizens seriously. How can we ensure the TC leader does this when establishing an island-wide IPC, and not act in Turkey's interests?

[Viewpoint]

We will make sure of that, believe me when we claim we want every refugee to finally get closure.