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[Viewpoint]

We as Gcs are unhappy, in fact sick of such a ridiculous decision. Where are the human rights of the property owners when those arse holes legalise the invader to reside over our property rights???

These are not human rights, how dare they a bunch of wankers decide that I have to face my attacker in that fashion before I can get restitution for my property and only and fucking turkeys grace FFS.

if you were in my shoes you would see it differently it is a fucked up decision and yes it is times like this when one can appreciate the suicide bombers.

Right now I feel like i want to be the next one at the next EC fucking HR gathering.


I am not a happy chappie.

Think for just one second how we feel having to deal with the system in the south, just as you have described above.

[YFred]

Keep dreaming about your utopian world. You need to take heed of your own forum 'handle' and 'Get Real!'

If I shouldn’t be yearning for international justice then my fellow compatriots from 50 years ago were VERY STUPID for not annihilating the "Turkish Cypriots" when they could've!

Do you see how this comes round and bites you on the bum?

They tried to but they couldnt do it.

You're dead wrong. Even Donktosh was arrested but he was later released when they could've just stuffed a slug up his brainless fat head! In retrospect it was a mistake releasing the fat clown…

The fact that Dentas was released does not mean that the GC did not try to wipe out the TCs did it?

Rubbish! Their aim was always to contain the TCs not wipe them out.

Why can't you be honest once in your life. The intention was to economically suffocate the TCs and drive them out of Cyprus. It was Sampson and his cronies who lost patience and decided to take the matter in their own hands and wipe them out, thinking that USA stopped the Turks twice before hoping for 3rd time lucky, beeing greek and supersticious and all that, but how wrong they were.

[Malapapa]

The Court maintained its view that pending resolution of the illegal occupation of northern Cyprus, it was crucial that individuals nonetheless continued to receive protection of their rights on a daily basis.

Even if the applicants did not live as such under the control of the “TRNC”, if there was an effective remedy available for their complaints there, the rule of exhaustion applied. This did not put in doubt the fact that the government of the Republic of Cyprus remained the sole legitimate government of Cyprus. The Court reiterated that an appropriate domestic body, with access to the relevant information, was clearly the more appropriate forum for deciding on complex matters of property ownership and valuation and assessing financial compensation, notwithstanding the time and efforts required from the applicants to exhaust domestic remedies.

No one has been able to answer my question at the beginning of this thread.

What is to stop the sole legitimate government of the whole of Cyprus to declare the IPC invalid as an appropriate domestic body, pending approval of the IPCs individual members, policies, procedures, terms of reference and principles by which it awards compensation and/or restitution. Approval could then be made by, say, the Cypriot attorney general, in consultation with the President and leader of the TC community.

Perhaps an island wide IPC could then be set up, to which all displaced Cypriots can apply and where the principles are consistent for all the island. The invader will be removed from the equation (beyond of course paying for the damage it has caused, together with commensurate contributions from the other two guarantor powers who let Cyprus down).

[Viewpoint]

The Court maintained its view that pending resolution of the illegal occupation of northern Cyprus, it was crucial that individuals nonetheless continued to receive protection of their rights on a daily basis.

Even if the applicants did not live as such under the control of the “TRNC”, if there was an effective remedy available for their complaints there, the rule of exhaustion applied. This did not put in doubt the fact that the government of the Republic of Cyprus remained the sole legitimate government of Cyprus. The Court reiterated that an appropriate domestic body, with access to the relevant information, was clearly the more appropriate forum for deciding on complex matters of property ownership and valuation and assessing financial compensation, notwithstanding the time and efforts required from the applicants to exhaust domestic remedies.

No one has been able to answer my question at the beginning of this thread.

What is to stop the sole legitimate government of the whole of Cyprus to declare the IPC invalid as an appropriate domestic body, pending approval of the IPCs individual members, policies, procedures, terms of reference and principles by which it awards compensation and/or restitution. Approval could then be made by, say, the Cypriot attorney general, in consultation with the President and leader of the TC community.

Perhaps an island wide IPC could then be set up, to which all displaced Cypriots can apply and where the principles are consistent for all the island. The invader will be removed from the equation (beyond of course paying for the damage it has caused, together with commensurate contributions from the other two guarantor powers who let Cyprus down).

Try taking it to the ECHR...time you realized you have to work with us to solve your problems.

[Malapapa]

The Court maintained its view that pending resolution of the illegal occupation of northern Cyprus, it was crucial that individuals nonetheless continued to receive protection of their rights on a daily basis.

Even if the applicants did not live as such under the control of the “TRNC”, if there was an effective remedy available for their complaints there, the rule of exhaustion applied. This did not put in doubt the fact that the government of the Republic of Cyprus remained the sole legitimate government of Cyprus. The Court reiterated that an appropriate domestic body, with access to the relevant information, was clearly the more appropriate forum for deciding on complex matters of property ownership and valuation and assessing financial compensation, notwithstanding the time and efforts required from the applicants to exhaust domestic remedies.

No one has been able to answer my question at the beginning of this thread.

What is to stop the sole legitimate government of the whole of Cyprus to declare the IPC invalid as an appropriate domestic body, pending approval of the IPCs individual members, policies, procedures, terms of reference and principles by which it awards compensation and/or restitution. Approval could then be made by, say, the Cypriot attorney general, in consultation with the President and leader of the TC community.

Perhaps an island wide IPC could then be set up, to which all displaced Cypriots can apply and where the principles are consistent for all the island. The invader will be removed from the equation (beyond of course paying for the damage it has caused, together with commensurate contributions from the other two guarantor powers who let Cyprus down).

Try taking it to the ECHR...time you realized you have to work with us to solve your problems.

Don't you read? I was talking about working with your leader, and also creating a consistent mechanism whereby all displaced Cypriots could get satisfaction, not just those displaced from the north.

[YFred]

The Court maintained its view that pending resolution of the illegal occupation of northern Cyprus, it was crucial that individuals nonetheless continued to receive protection of their rights on a daily basis.

Even if the applicants did not live as such under the control of the “TRNC”, if there was an effective remedy available for their complaints there, the rule of exhaustion applied. This did not put in doubt the fact that the government of the Republic of Cyprus remained the sole legitimate government of Cyprus. The Court reiterated that an appropriate domestic body, with access to the relevant information, was clearly the more appropriate forum for deciding on complex matters of property ownership and valuation and assessing financial compensation, notwithstanding the time and efforts required from the applicants to exhaust domestic remedies.

No one has been able to answer my question at the beginning of this thread.

What is to stop the sole legitimate government of the whole of Cyprus to declare the IPC invalid as an appropriate domestic body, pending approval of the IPCs individual members, policies, procedures, terms of reference and principles by which it awards compensation and/or restitution. Approval could then be made by, say, the Cypriot attorney general, in consultation with the President and leader of the TC community.

Perhaps an island wide IPC could then be set up, to which all displaced Cypriots can apply and where the principles are consistent for all the island. The invader will be removed from the equation (beyond of course paying for the damage it has caused, together with commensurate contributions from the other two guarantor powers who let Cyprus down).

If the roc set up such a body I would agree with you. However if you think they would like to then you are far more naive than I thought possible. They would like it all to go through the roc courts which is in their hands, but allas the EU has finally seen the light and the little games played down south.

[Acikgoz]

Mala, the Council of Europe is what stops the IPC being called illegal by the RoC.

Justice and settlement is not defined only by what suits Greek Cypriots.

Oh, Sothick, you Greek Cypriots never did anything - Cyprus domination was your goal - read what was behind the Akritas plan, your Church and leaders were all about conquering the island - then for the glory of Greece, now for the glory of Greek Cypriots. Not a thought for the suffering of Turkish Cypriots. With your foot bearing down on my neck forcing me to choke for oxygen through your embargoes, thank God for the lifeline of Turkey.

[Viewpoint]

The Court maintained its view that pending resolution of the illegal occupation of northern Cyprus, it was crucial that individuals nonetheless continued to receive protection of their rights on a daily basis.

Even if the applicants did not live as such under the control of the “TRNC”, if there was an effective remedy available for their complaints there, the rule of exhaustion applied. This did not put in doubt the fact that the government of the Republic of Cyprus remained the sole legitimate government of Cyprus. The Court reiterated that an appropriate domestic body, with access to the relevant information, was clearly the more appropriate forum for deciding on complex matters of property ownership and valuation and assessing financial compensation, notwithstanding the time and efforts required from the applicants to exhaust domestic remedies.

No one has been able to answer my question at the beginning of this thread.

What is to stop the sole legitimate government of the whole of Cyprus to declare the IPC invalid as an appropriate domestic body, pending approval of the IPCs individual members, policies, procedures, terms of reference and principles by which it awards compensation and/or restitution. Approval could then be made by, say, the Cypriot attorney general, in consultation with the President and leader of the TC community.

Perhaps an island wide IPC could then be set up, to which all displaced Cypriots can apply and where the principles are consistent for all the island. The invader will be removed from the equation (beyond of course paying for the damage it has caused, together with commensurate contributions from the other two guarantor powers who let Cyprus down).

Try taking it to the ECHR...time you realized you have to work with us to solve your problems.

Don't you read? I was talking about working with your leader, and also creating a consistent mechanism whereby all displaced Cypriots could get satisfaction, not just those displaced from the north.

Hello I was saying the same about working with us to solve the land problems but who would actually administer this mechanism?

[Malapapa]

The Court maintained its view that pending resolution of the illegal occupation of northern Cyprus, it was crucial that individuals nonetheless continued to receive protection of their rights on a daily basis.

Even if the applicants did not live as such under the control of the “TRNC”, if there was an effective remedy available for their complaints there, the rule of exhaustion applied. This did not put in doubt the fact that the government of the Republic of Cyprus remained the sole legitimate government of Cyprus. The Court reiterated that an appropriate domestic body, with access to the relevant information, was clearly the more appropriate forum for deciding on complex matters of property ownership and valuation and assessing financial compensation, notwithstanding the time and efforts required from the applicants to exhaust domestic remedies.

No one has been able to answer my question at the beginning of this thread.

What is to stop the sole legitimate government of the whole of Cyprus to declare the IPC invalid as an appropriate domestic body, pending approval of the IPCs individual members, policies, procedures, terms of reference and principles by which it awards compensation and/or restitution. Approval could then be made by, say, the Cypriot attorney general, in consultation with the President and leader of the TC community.

Perhaps an island wide IPC could then be set up, to which all displaced Cypriots can apply and where the principles are consistent for all the island. The invader will be removed from the equation (beyond of course paying for the damage it has caused, together with commensurate contributions from the other two guarantor powers who let Cyprus down).

If the roc set up such a body I would agree with you. However if you think they would like to then you are far more naive than I thought possible. They would like it all to go through the roc courts which is in their hands, but allas the EU has finally seen the light and the little games played down south.

No the courts are not in the government hands. But the terms of an island wide IPC, administering all property cases and claims could be administered by the Cypriot attorney general and the terms of reference approved by the president and the TC leader (but not Turkey which would be acting in its own interest but not the Cypriot people, especially not the island's displaced people, north and south).

[Malapapa]

Mala, the Council of Europe is what stops the IPC being called illegal by the RoC.

I'm sorry I don't get this. How can the CofE decide what an appropriate domestic remedy in Cyprus is? Only the legal local authority can do this. And if it says it isn't, for whatever reasons, then who is the ECHR and the CofE to say otherwise?

Justice and settlement is not defined only by what suits Greek Cypriots.

Indeed, that's why an island-wide IPC is needed, with consistent terms of reference, for all displaced Cypriots to apply to not just those turfed out from the north; it can be funded by Turkey, the other guarantor powers, other interested parties internationally, ie UN, EU and NATO, as well as the Cypriot government itself.