Cyprus-Forum.com

[Gasman]

Palio, check out some of the posters on CY44. They come out with garbage like that having funded their ill-gotten gains through the sale of elderly relative's ex-council houses in Essex and the like. Their version of history and political analysis is a mixture of what the estate agents in Kyrenia told them and propaganda from their low-life buddies. They care more about their war booty than the ordinary Turkish Cypriots. They live in a moral vacuum and represent the worst type of Brit.

I agree with every word of that.

Gasman wrote:
Seems to me that the EU, the ECJ, the ECHR, and any other super powers are sick to the back teeth of the 'Cyprus Problem' and seem to be telling them to 'sort it out between themselves'.

If they cannot agree about the 'property' how the hell can they come to any arrangement acceptable to both about the whole solution?

I very much doubt that any international court wants to be faced with dealing with these tens of thousands of property cases. I'd go so far as to say they probably consider they have much more important stuff to deal with.

Malapapas wrote:
Would you consider this, if it was your rights that had been violated, for 35 years?

I was not stating whether I thought it was good or bad, right or wrong, I said it 'seems to me' that's the way it is sounding. i.e. the impression I get.

If the RoC courts/authorities had to deal with all these property dispute cases - how the hell long would that take? They are said to have about a ten year backlog here when it comes to the straightforward issuing of title deeds to people who have bought and paid for property that is NOT in dispute!

[Viewpoint]

Will GCs now decide for themselves and go agaist their leaders applying IPC in the advised by the ECHR?

[Acikgoz]

So B25, we Turkish Cypriots sat, pleaded for some semblance of reality and acknolwedgement that the legal process is to a large extent political. We were dictated to that the law is the law and that we had to deal with it. There was not an ounce of empathy that the justification was lopsided given the experiences of both our peoples from the past.

And now YOU have the temerity to say "higher powers were at play here".

The Greek Cypriots are a hypocritical lot, I have said it before many a time and as they prove me right I will continue to do so.

In addition, B25 do you choose not to remember the innocent Turkish Cypriots that were murdered by the EOKA well before any intervention. BLOOD ON BOTH OUR HANDS. My facts are sound, by ignoring some to make your argument more sympathetic for you, you only succeed in also being accused of being insincere and a liar.

[Sotos]

So B25, we Turkish Cypriots sat, pleaded for some semblance of reality and acknolwedgement that the legal process is to a large extent political. We were dictated to that the law is the law and that we had to deal with it. There was not an ounce of empathy that the justification was lopsided given the experiences of both our peoples from the past.

And now YOU have the temerity to say "higher powers were at play here".

The Greek Cypriots are a hypocritical lot, I have said it before many a time and as they prove me right I will continue to do so.

In addition, B25 do you choose not to remember the innocent Turkish Cypriots that were murdered by the EOKA well before any intervention. BLOOD ON BOTH OUR HANDS. My facts are sound, by ignoring some to make your argument more sympathetic for you, you only succeed in also being accused of being insincere and a liar.

You started in 1571. You continued until 1878. Then you restarted in 1958. If you attack us we will fight back. Peace will come when our island will be liberated from the invading Turks who want to take our homeland from us! Until then there will be war because we will not surrender even one cm of our island to the invaders!

[Solveit]

It is indeed very sad that you extremist GC's now harp on about war again. When things were going 'your way' you were content that the EU and the courts would be your saviours, gleefully rubbing TRNC's noses in it that they will 'get their commuppence' very soon. As someone earlier said, when things went against those in the north, whilst they were upset and unhappy about how things had gone, they didn't spit venom about war etc.

Now that things have seriously gone against you, you are at war again. Don't you guys ever learn!? You tried it twice now with EOKA and 'B' and second time got your arses well and truly kicked for trying to wipe out the TC's in earlier years. Fortunately for you, you played a good game, and the ROC got away with the 'official' sovreignty of the whole island to date. Now you talk of war and an EOKA 'C' but this time as well as getting your arses kicked again if you try it, the world also has you sussed and you won't get away with pulling the wool over the worlds eyes for a third time.

You wonder why the Turks invaded, you wonder why the TC's want the Turkish army to stay? Is it any surprise, with the hate and venom you spit at every turn! No wonder the TC's don't want to live with you. How can they ever feel safe if people like you in the south are around in any large numbers.

[Acikgoz]

It's a mindset thing. Not your fault Sotos, your parents, your church etc. all pumped into your soft head the glorious notions of times past. Like the Italians and Mussolini romanticising of a past time and the Glories of Rome. Peace will come to our island either with partition or true BBF.
The year is 2010. Get with the programme.
The GC govt has never given cause for the Turkish army to leave, nothing has ever been demonstrated to build the trust of the TCs. Keep the airports closed longer, object to the footballers playing abroad, choke any trade and commerce.

[B25]

We as Gcs are unhappy, in fact sick of such a ridiculous decision. Where are the human rights of the property owners when those arse holes legalise the invader to reside over our property rights???

These are not human rights, how dare they a bunch of wankers decide that I have to face my attacker in that fashion before I can get restitution for my property and only and fucking turkeys grace FFS.

if you were in my shoes you would see it differently it is a fucked up decision and yes it is times like this when one can appreciate the suicide bombers.

Right now I feel like i want to be the next one at the next EC fucking HR gathering.

I am not a happy chappie.

[Malapapa]

Seems to me that the EU, the ECJ, the ECHR, and any other super powers are sick to the back teeth of the 'Cyprus Problem' and seem to be telling them to 'sort it out between themselves'.

If they cannot agree about the 'property' how the hell can they come to any arrangement acceptable to both about the whole solution?

I very much doubt that any international court wants to be faced with dealing with these tens of thousands of property cases. I'd go so far as to say they probably consider they have much more important stuff to deal with.

Would you consider this, if it was your rights that had been violated, for 35 years?

I was not stating whether I thought it was good or bad, right or wrong, I said it 'seems to me' that's the way it is sounding. i.e. the impression I get.

No one wants the Cyprus issue to go away more than those whose human rights have been violated, for decades. No one is more sick-to-death with this problem than Cypriots (indeed many have died with a broken heart).

The international community stood by and did nothing when these human rights violations came to pass, even though Britain was obligated by treaty to intervene and is guilty, in small measure, in helping to create the mess in the first place.

It seems to me, if the international courts have a problem with this property mess, they should take it up with Britain, Turkey and Greece; not with the long-suffering people of Cyprus.

[Sotos]

It is indeed very sad that you extremist GC's now harp on about war again. When things were going 'your way' you were content that the EU and the courts would be your saviours, gleefully rubbing TRNC's noses in it that they will 'get their commuppence' very soon. As someone earlier said, when things went against those in the north, whilst they were upset and unhappy about how things had gone, they didn't spit venom about war etc.

Now that things have seriously gone against you, you are at war again. Don't you guys ever learn!? You tried it twice now with EOKA and 'B' and second time got your arses well and truly kicked for trying to wipe out the TC's in earlier years. Fortunately for you, you played a good game, and the ROC got away with the 'official' sovreignty of the whole island to date. Now you talk of war and an EOKA 'C' but this time as well as getting your arses kicked again if you try it, the world also has you sussed and you won't get away with pulling the wool over the worlds eyes for a third time.

You wonder why the Turks invaded, you wonder why the TC's want the Turkish army to stay? Is it any surprise, with the hate and venom you spit at every turn! No wonder the TC's don't want to live with you. How can they ever feel safe if people like you in the south are around in any large numbers.

You FIRST invaded us and that is WHY we hate you. If you had not invaded our island then Cyprus would have no Turks and no problems. Did you think we woke up one day and thought "Hey, you know about those Turks in far Mongolia ... lets hate them!" ... it didn't happen that way you know!

[Sotos]

It's a mindset thing. Not your fault Sotos, your parents, your church etc. all pumped into your soft head the glorious notions of times past. Like the Italians and Mussolini romanticising of a past time and the Glories of Rome. Peace will come to our island either with partition or true BBF.
The year is 2010. Get with the programme.
The GC govt has never given cause for the Turkish army to leave, nothing has ever been demonstrated to build the trust of the TCs. Keep the airports closed longer, object to the footballers playing abroad, choke any trade and commerce.

Mussolini invaded other countries like you do against ours. You are criminal invaders who illegal occupy our lands! We are not the ones who invaded you. We never left out of our island to invade anybody!