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[eracles]

OH DEAR ! Sorry for the delay. I have a life to live.. Usual reply What Genocide ? If you are a Greek Cyp you will not have been told should you be under 45. If you are a Brit then you have been brainwashed like all the Brits in the south.
1963 -1974 my friend tc's from 30% of the land to 3% of the land.......FACT. The richer ones left for Australia, Canada, UK the rest went into enclaves or died READ THE BLOODY TRUTH. Stop living the lie about ONLY Greek Cyprots being refugees. Good night.

let me guess, thieving carpet bagger who aligns political sympathy with dumb gamble on a property with no legal title deed?

[saurkraut]

some fresh tc blood with hatred for gcs? we tried to killl them off and they did nothing wrong and the rest of it?

I dont think that the majority of the outsiders and onlookers have hate for the GC's more a case of pity really Pity that a tribe of proffessional victims could live in such an insular, truth dodging, state of permanent denial. You sit on your self generated moral high ground spouting crap and through blatant acts of childish petulance get all the big boys to do your dirty work. Anyone caught even talking to the unholy North is met with tantrums and and tears with you waving your big EU stick around but only from behind your mummy's apron strings.
Time to wise up now the world has tired of your games and inflexible attitude to comprimise. They have seen how you have continued to behave in this changing world and how you have held on to your arrogant and petulant attitude. The message from club EU is clear get it sorted we are bored with you and you are not important, and whilst you try to convince yourself this ruling is not important let me remind you how your ruling party regards it

"THE government and all political parties yesterday expressed their deep disappointment over the European Court of Human Rights’ decision to recognise the Immovable Property Commission (IPC) in the occupied areas as an effective domestic remedy of Turkey"

In closing it makes me laugh so much to hear you blame the Fatherland for the finacial woes of the Greeks not their lasy ways and the lies they told to get into the EU. Always somebodies elses fault!!!

[saurkraut]

[apc2010]

:lol:

they only understandable post you have made!!!!!!!!!!!

[Piratis]

Firstly the Orams route is only usable if the person being claimed against has EU assets.

This includes TCs with assets in Cyprus. I would say that most people that are currently trespassing on our land do have assets in one of the 27 EU countries.

If the defndant does not challenge the case and argue their innocence then costs against them can not be awarded. The cost of bringing such a civil case rests with the person bringing it. It is only if you 'fight' the case that costs get awarded in such cases.

Trespass is not a civil but a criminal offense in Cyprus:

Under the laws of the Republic of Cyprus, the exploitation of property registered in the name of another, constitutes a criminal offence, for which a European arrest warrant, executable in any of the 25 EU countries, and an International arrest warrant could be issued.

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So not only they will have to pay the legal fees but they could also end up in jail. (I think the max penalty for trespass is 7 years of imprisonment)

This will be the route that most GCs will take. It will be the fastest process that will cost nothing to them.

Taking what is effectively a good amount of "rent" from the illegal occupiers of their property would provide to our refugees a much higher "return on investment" than if they received some tiny compensation in exchange for their property and placed that money in the bank.

So this is clearly the best route, for both economic and patriotic reasons. (since the obvious intention of the Turks is to force us to sell off our lands in the occupied areas)

[saurkraut]

:lol:

they only understandable post you have made!!!!!!!!!!!

Totally

[Get Real!]

I dont think that the majority of the outsiders and onlookers have hate for the GC's more a case of pity really Pity that a tribe of proffessional victims could live in such an insular, truth dodging, state of permanent denial. You sit on your self generated moral high ground spouting crap and through blatant acts of childish petulance get all the big boys to do your dirty work. Anyone caught even talking to the unholy North is met with tantrums and and tears with you waving your big EU stick around but only from behind your mummy's apron strings.
Time to wise up now the world has tired of your games and inflexible attitude to comprimise. They have seen how you have continued to behave in this changing world and how you have held on to your arrogant and petulant attitude. The message from club EU is clear get it sorted we are bored with you and you are not important, and whilst you try to convince yourself this ruling is not important let me remind you how your ruling party regards it

"THE government and all political parties yesterday expressed their deep disappointment over the European Court of Human Rights’ decision to recognise the Immovable Property Commission (IPC) in the occupied areas as an effective domestic remedy of Turkey"

In closing it makes me laugh so much to hear you blame the Fatherland for the finacial woes of the Greeks not their lasy ways and the lies they told to get into the EU. Always somebodies elses fault!!!

Are you a German Jew by any chance?

[Malapapa]

Time to wise up now the world has tired of your games and inflexible attitude to comprimise.

Are you British, saurkraut?

What if a third of the UK had been invaded and occupied by Pakistan - because Muslim communities, in towns like Bradford, had been mistreated? What if millions of Pakistanis had then poured into the north of Britain to take up residence in homes abandoned by Brits fearing rape, torture and death? What if cheapskate Cypriots had then started snapping up bargain holiday homes in the Lake District; homes belonging you and other Brits? Would you fight this injustice to your people and homeland, saurkraut, using whatever means were at your disposal? However long it took?

What if one of those lowlife Cypriots, now sitting pretty in his cheaply acquired stolen cottage, came along and told you to "wise up with your inflexible attitude to compromise"?

Would you tell him to fcuk off?

[bill cobbett]

Can just say that this changes nothing that was established in the Aposolides v Orams case.

The Courts in the EU are still bound to honour and action the "free movement of judgments" of the Courts of the Republic.

It also does nothing to change the "public policy" of the GB government. Here is section 61 of what Lord Justice Pill said in the A V Os ruling ....

"Further, the court would need to have regard to international obligations of the United Kingdom. Security Council Resolutions, while urging negotiations and settlement and stressing the importance and delicacy of property issues (as does the government of the United Kingdom), have consistently required respect for the territorial integrity of the Republic of Cyprus under a single sovereignty. That must include respect for the courts as the judicial arm of the sovereign state. Quite apart from Security Council Resolutions, the United Kingdom has an obligation under the Treaty of Guarantee to recognise and guarantee the independence, territorial integrity and security of the Republic of Cyprus. A United Kingdom court assessing international public policy would need to respect these instruments and the obligations they impose on the United Kingdom government."

GB "public policy" therefore remains respect for the judgments of the Courts of the Republic, the Real and Only Effective Local Remedy. Nothing has changed matters established in Mr A v The Os.

[repulsewarrior]

this decision for the IPC is expected, it allows Turkey to demonstrate eveness in their compensation of displaced who seek an immediate redress. This small interest for Turkey (18% of the island for about 50 billion) is a pickle,
however if Turkey is capable, then the likelihood is that her adversaries in France and Germany will be more likely to reconsider their fears. if Cyprus is open to be torn in two, here is one way to do it with extra cash.

if erdogan is to be a great leader regionally (and internationally speaking) he will have to deliver a face that is Islamic that is pleasing to the West. he must defend the 'secular state' by allowing freedoms for all religions, and he must end the corruption of the 'deep state'. Cyprus plays a big role in this. in Cyprus he needs a template for his own reforms in Turkey. at least, as a key player it needs the prestige of the International stage.

...it would not suprise me if we are getting close. ie the definition of Bizonal and Bicommunal.