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Postby B25 » Sun Mar 07, 2010 8:51 pm

Would that be the Turkish genocide against the Armenians of the genocide against the GCs in '74???

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Postby RichardB » Sun Mar 07, 2010 9:06 pm

only me wrote:Wake up you toss pots in the SOUTH. The world and the EU are SLOWLY waking up to fact that you have been lying for years about your actions in the 60's and 70's. Admit your Genocide and we can move on. Start to teach your children the truth.
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Every so often we get a thread on board which turns into a really quite interesting debate and I find myself learning from such a debate then up props a pratt with nothing constructive to say :roll:
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Postby erolz3 » Sun Mar 07, 2010 9:33 pm

CBBB wrote:35 years 'rent' will be a bit more than 5000 Euros!


Do you know what the award by the RoC courts was in the Orams case ?

If you think it was life destroying then you are mistaken.
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Postby CopperLine » Sun Mar 07, 2010 10:43 pm

Solveit wrote:Re' pursuing for trespass and enforcement in other EU courts.

Prior to this ECHR ruling there was no 'approved' mechanism/route in place to determine the outcome of property disputes. In the Orams case the facts were that Mr A is the rightful 'legal' owner and therefore the UK court enforcing the ROC court judgement was fairly straightforward.

Now that there is an approved mechanism in place it may well be that a UK court (or other) could refuse to enforce the judgement in the public interest because any ROC court judgement could be construed to be circumnavigating the now 'approved' process. Or, that the due process now recognised was not followed in that the ROC court ruling would be outside of that due process, especially as any ROC judgement could be deemed as pre-empting (possibly wrongly) a decision yet to be made by the IPC.

So you see, the 'flood' of trespass cases would not be as simple to enforce as you think imho. :roll:


I can't help thinking that this recent pre-occupation with trespass is something of a red herring.

Trespass is a temporary, time-bound tort. That means, amongst other things, that an identifiable harm to the property owner needs to be demonstrated against a named individual. This is practically a difficult thing to do even in 'normal' circumstances.

Let's think this through: I'm a GC property claimant whose property is in Kyrenia 'owned' by a Brit. I attempt to sue them for trespass. Further let's suppose I identify them successfully and present this before a RoC court. That court will ask what the damage is following trespass (remember this is not deprivation of property nor even deprivation of access to property). (To take action on a trespass presupposes that the litigant is the undisputed property owner who has suffered a tort). We're talking at best a low number of Euros in damages.

There are those in this forum who talk of taking this through to ECHR or enforcement in other national EU courts. How would a trespass case play compared to a deprivation of property case in any of these courts ? If I were on the bench I'd ask the question why this complainant is pursuing a trespass case when s/he would have to present the same (if not less) levels of evidence for a deprivation of property case. The latter is a serious case, the former is trivial.
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Postby Get Real! » Sun Mar 07, 2010 10:46 pm

Solveit wrote:With regard to trespass, this avenue is now also dead. The ECHR have basically said that the IPC is the only route to take in order to claim back property,

It's more a case of your brain being dead. A trespassing case against a squatter (individual) has nothing to do with claiming back compensation/property from the occupier. (Turkey)
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Postby only me » Sun Mar 07, 2010 11:03 pm

OH DEAR ! Sorry for the delay. I have a life to live.. Usual reply What Genocide ? If you are a Greek Cyp you will not have been told should you be under 45. If you are a Brit then you have been brainwashed like all the Brits in the south.
1963 -1974 my friend tc's from 30% of the land to 3% of the land.......FACT. The richer ones left for Australia, Canada, UK the rest went into enclaves or died READ THE BLOODY TRUTH. Stop living the lie about ONLY Greek Cyprots being refugees. Good night.
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Postby only me » Sun Mar 07, 2010 11:04 pm

OH DEAR ! Sorry for the delay. I have a life to live.. Usual reply What Genocide ? If you are a Greek Cyp you will not have been told should you be under 45. If you are a Brit then you have been brainwashed like all the Brits in the south.
1963 -1974 my friend tc's from 30% of the land to 3% of the land.......FACT. The richer ones left for Australia, Canada, UK the rest went into enclaves or died READ THE BLOODY TRUTH. Stop living the lie about ONLY Greek Cyprots being refugees. Good night.
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Postby Get Real! » Sun Mar 07, 2010 11:12 pm

only me wrote:OH DEAR ! Sorry for the delay. I have a life to live.. Usual reply What Genocide ? If you are a Greek Cyp you will not have been told should you be under 45. If you are a Brit then you have been brainwashed like all the Brits in the south.
1963 -1974 my friend tc's from 30% of the land to 3% of the land.......FACT. The richer ones left for Australia, Canada, UK the rest went into enclaves or died READ THE BLOODY TRUTH. Stop living the lie about ONLY Greek Cyprots being refugees. Good night.

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Postby apc2010 » Sun Mar 07, 2010 11:20 pm

only me wrote:OH DEAR ! Sorry for the delay. I have a life to live.. Usual reply What Genocide ? If you are a Greek Cyp you will not have been told should you be under 45. If you are a Brit then you have been brainwashed like all the Brits in the south.
1963 -1974 my friend tc's from 30% of the land to 3% of the land.......FACT. The richer ones left for Australia, Canada, UK the rest went into enclaves or died READ THE BLOODY TRUTH. Stop living the lie about ONLY Greek Cyprots being refugees. Good night.

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Postby paliometoxo » Sun Mar 07, 2010 11:21 pm

some fresh tc blood with hatred for gcs? we tried to killl them off and they did nothing wrong and the rest of it?
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