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[Oracle]

What's the difference between Talat and Eroglu?

Well, Talat has been lying his way through "negotiations" all these years.

Finally he tells the truth so that he can steal some votes from the TC partitionists.


Talat says unitary state in Cyprus out of question

Friday, 05 March 2010 08:45

Mehmet Ali Talat said on Thursday that an unitary state in Cyprus was out of question.

Talat and Greek Cypriot leader Demetris Christofias met at buffer zone in Lefkosa within the scope of talks to find a solution to Cyprus issue.

When journalists asked to comment on the news reports which appeared in Greek Cypriot media that there was a drift towards unitary state in thesis of the Turkish party regarding economy, Talat said an unitary state was out of question.

"We are after forming a federal structure. Negotiations continue within the scope of what should be done in federal structures," Talat said.

http://www.worldbulletin.net/news_detail.php?id=55029

[Kikapu]

What's the difference between Talat and Eroglu?

Well, Talat has been lying his way through "negotiations" all these years.

Finally he tells the truth so that he can steal some votes from the TC partitionists.


Talat says unitary state in Cyprus out of question

Friday, 05 March 2010 08:45

Mehmet Ali Talat said on Thursday that an unitary state in Cyprus was out of question.

Talat and Greek Cypriot leader Demetris Christofias met at buffer zone in Lefkosa within the scope of talks to find a solution to Cyprus issue.

When journalists asked to comment on the news reports which appeared in Greek Cypriot media that there was a drift towards unitary state in thesis of the Turkish party regarding economy, Talat said an unitary state was out of question.

"We are after forming a federal structure. Negotiations continue within the scope of what should be done in federal structures," Talat said.

http://www.worldbulletin.net/news_detail.php?id=55029

Leaders who are meeting for the 69th time under the talks made certain progress over certain issues, but disagreement over issues like property, power sharing and treaty of guaranty still prevails.

Unless the TCs let go the Dreams of Taksim to become permanent, all the talks are nothing but "69".!!

[Paphitis]

What's the difference between Talat and Eroglu?

Well, Talat has been lying his way through "negotiations" all these years.

Finally he tells the truth so that he can steal some votes from the TC partitionists.


Talat says unitary state in Cyprus out of question

Friday, 05 March 2010 08:45

Mehmet Ali Talat said on Thursday that an unitary state in Cyprus was out of question.

Talat and Greek Cypriot leader Demetris Christofias met at buffer zone in Lefkosa within the scope of talks to find a solution to Cyprus issue.

When journalists asked to comment on the news reports which appeared in Greek Cypriot media that there was a drift towards unitary state in thesis of the Turkish party regarding economy, Talat said an unitary state was out of question.

"We are after forming a federal structure. Negotiations continue within the scope of what should be done in federal structures," Talat said.

http://www.worldbulletin.net/news_detail.php?id=55029

Leaders who are meeting for the 69th time under the talks made certain progress over certain issues, but disagreement over issues like property, power sharing and treaty of guaranty still prevails.

Unless the TCs let go the Dreams of Taksim to become permanent, all the talks are nothing but "69".!!

Bloomin hell!

The image of Talat and Christofias negotiating in these "69" talks, whilst downer is watching, is most disturbing!

[Epiktitos]

What's the difference between Talat and Eroglu?

Well, Talat has been lying his way through "negotiations" all these years.

Finally he tells the truth so that he can steal some votes from the TC partitionists.


Talat says unitary state in Cyprus out of question

Friday, 05 March 2010 08:45

Mehmet Ali Talat said on Thursday that an unitary state in Cyprus was out of question.

Talat and Greek Cypriot leader Demetris Christofias met at buffer zone in Lefkosa within the scope of talks to find a solution to Cyprus issue.

When journalists asked to comment on the news reports which appeared in Greek Cypriot media that there was a drift towards unitary state in thesis of the Turkish party regarding economy, Talat said an unitary state was out of question.

"We are after forming a federal structure. Negotiations continue within the scope of what should be done in federal structures," Talat said.

http://www.worldbulletin.net/news_detail.php?id=55029

Leaders who are meeting for the 69th time under the talks made certain progress over certain issues, but disagreement over issues like property, power sharing and treaty of guaranty still prevails.

Unless the TCs let go the Dreams of Taksim to become permanent, all the talks are nothing but "69".!!

Bloomin hell!

The image of Talat and Christofias negotiating in these "69" talks, whilst downer is watching, is most disturbing!

Downer is the kinkiest of them all...another fine aussie export!

[Kikapu]

What's the difference between Talat and Eroglu?

Well, Talat has been lying his way through "negotiations" all these years.

Finally he tells the truth so that he can steal some votes from the TC partitionists.


Talat says unitary state in Cyprus out of question

Friday, 05 March 2010 08:45

Mehmet Ali Talat said on Thursday that an unitary state in Cyprus was out of question.

Talat and Greek Cypriot leader Demetris Christofias met at buffer zone in Lefkosa within the scope of talks to find a solution to Cyprus issue.

When journalists asked to comment on the news reports which appeared in Greek Cypriot media that there was a drift towards unitary state in thesis of the Turkish party regarding economy, Talat said an unitary state was out of question.

"We are after forming a federal structure. Negotiations continue within the scope of what should be done in federal structures," Talat said.

http://www.worldbulletin.net/news_detail.php?id=55029

Leaders who are meeting for the 69th time under the talks made certain progress over certain issues, but disagreement over issues like property, power sharing and treaty of guaranty still prevails.

Unless the TCs let go the Dreams of Taksim to become permanent, all the talks are nothing but "69".!!

Bloomin hell!

The image of Talat and Christofias negotiating in these "69" talks, whilst downer is watching, is most disturbing!

Different strokes for different folks.!!

[paliometoxo]

whats out of the question is that two states crap they keep saying about...

but hes always been saying two states even before the elections, just they call it re unification two states under one they have never said one actual state, the one actual state talat has always been talking about is two under one

[halil]

whats out of the question is that two states crap they keep saying about...

but hes always been saying two states even before the elections, just they call it re unification two states under one they have never said one actual state, the one actual state talat has always been talking about is two under one

Palio,
Talks are goes on about BBF in Cyprus . Try to refresh your memory very lately what UN secretary said at his last Cyprus visit. many times i put in here what was the 23rd agreement between two sides. Still Talat policies are following that agreement.

Talat was responding to claims in the Greek Cypriot press that the Turkish Side had changed stance in favor of a unitary state, He denied the speculations, stating that the negotiations were being conducted with the aim of reaching a federal settlement. as stated in 23rd may.

[Paphitis]

What's the difference between Talat and Eroglu?

Well, Talat has been lying his way through "negotiations" all these years.

Finally he tells the truth so that he can steal some votes from the TC partitionists.


Talat says unitary state in Cyprus out of question

Friday, 05 March 2010 08:45

Mehmet Ali Talat said on Thursday that an unitary state in Cyprus was out of question.

Talat and Greek Cypriot leader Demetris Christofias met at buffer zone in Lefkosa within the scope of talks to find a solution to Cyprus issue.

When journalists asked to comment on the news reports which appeared in Greek Cypriot media that there was a drift towards unitary state in thesis of the Turkish party regarding economy, Talat said an unitary state was out of question.

"We are after forming a federal structure. Negotiations continue within the scope of what should be done in federal structures," Talat said.

http://www.worldbulletin.net/news_detail.php?id=55029

Leaders who are meeting for the 69th time under the talks made certain progress over certain issues, but disagreement over issues like property, power sharing and treaty of guaranty still prevails.

Unless the TCs let go the Dreams of Taksim to become permanent, all the talks are nothing but "69".!!

Bloomin hell!

The image of Talat and Christofias negotiating in these "69" talks, whilst downer is watching, is most disturbing!

Downer is the kinkiest of them all...another fine aussie export!

You find him kinky?

Mate, you're some weird Greeko...

[paliometoxo]

whats out of the question is that two states crap they keep saying about...

but hes always been saying two states even before the elections, just they call it re unification two states under one they have never said one actual state, the one actual state talat has always been talking about is two under one

Palio,
Talks are goes on about BBF in Cyprus . Try to refresh your memory very lately what UN secretary said at his last Cyprus visit. many times i put in here what was the 23rd agreement between two sides. Still Talat policies are following that agreement.

Talat was responding to claims in the Greek Cypriot press that the Turkish Side had changed stance in favor of a unitary state, He denied the speculations, stating that the negotiations were being conducted with the aim of reaching a federal settlement. as stated in 23rd may.

he would lose 99% of the votes in the north though if he said yes a unitary state live with gcs

[halil]

whats out of the question is that two states crap they keep saying about...

but hes always been saying two states even before the elections, just they call it re unification two states under one they have never said one actual state, the one actual state talat has always been talking about is two under one

Palio,
Talks are goes on about BBF in Cyprus . Try to refresh your memory very lately what UN secretary said at his last Cyprus visit. many times i put in here what was the 23rd agreement between two sides. Still Talat policies are following that agreement.

Talat was responding to claims in the Greek Cypriot press that the Turkish Side had changed stance in favor of a unitary state, He denied the speculations, stating that the negotiations were being conducted with the aim of reaching a federal settlement. as stated in 23rd may.

he would lose 99% of the votes in the north though if he said yes a unitary state live with gcs

Palio ,
since 1977 all the talks goes on BBF basics.....

have a look 1986 draft agreement .......... another draft agreement similar to this one might announced in this month.

Draft Framework Agreement on Cyprus, 29 March
1986
Recognising with satisfaction that the initiative of the Secretary-General, which
bore in mind the relevant United Nations resolutions and which began in August
1984 in Vienna and continued through the high-level proximity talks from
September to December 1984 and the joint high- level meeting of January 1985
held in New York, has now resulted in an important step towards a just and lasting
settlement of the Cyprus problem; The parties agree on the following matters
which are to be viewed as an integrated whole:
I.1 The Parties:
(a) Recommit themselves to the high-level agreements of 1977 and 1979;
(b) Indicate their determination to proceed, at the date referred to in paragraph
15.1 below, to the establishment of a Federal Republic that will be independent
and non-aligned, bi-communal as regards the federal constitutional aspect and bizonal
as regards the territorial aspect;
(c) Reaffirm their acceptance of those introductory constitutional provisions that
were agreed upon at the intercommunal talks in 1981-82;
(i) The Federal Republic of Cyprus shall have international personality. The federal
government shall exercise sovereignty in respect of all of the territory. The
attributes of international personality shall be exercised by the federal government
in accordance with the federal constitution. The provinces or federated states may
act in their areas of competence in accordance with the federal constitution and in
a manner that would not duplicate the powers and functions of the federal
government as defined in the federal constitution.
(ii) The people of the Federal Republic shall comprise the Greek Cypriot community
and the Turkish Cypriot community. There shall be a single citizenship of the
Federal Republic of Cyprus regulated by federal law.
(iii) The territory of the Federal Republic shall comprise the two provinces or
federated states.
(iv) The official languages of the Federal Republic shall be Greek and Turkish. The
English language may also be used.
(v) The Federal Republic shall have a neutral flag and anthem to be agreed. Each
province or federated state may have its own flag using mainly elements of the
federal flag. The federal flag shall be flown on federal buildings and federal
locations to the exclusion of any other flag.
(vi) The federal government shall observe the holidays of the Federal Republic.
Each province or federated state shall observe the federal holidays as well as those
established by it.

(vii) The parties reaffirm all other points that were agreed upon during the course
of the intercommunal talks as contained in the 'revision' dated 18 May 1982
concerning general provisions. Part I, fundamental rights and liberties. Part H, as
well as Parts III and IV.
2.1 The powers and functions to be vested in the federal government of the
Federal Republic shall comprise:
(a) Foreign affairs.
(b) Federal financial affairs (including federal budget, taxation, customs and excise
duties).
(c) Monetary and banking affairs.
(d) Federal economic affairs (including trade and tourism).
(e) Posts and telecommunications.
(f) International transport.
(g) Natural resources (including water supply, environment).
(h) Federal health and veterinary affairs.
(i) Standard setting: weights and measures, patents, trademarks,
copyrights.
(j) Federal judiciary.
(k) Appointment of federal officers.
(1) Defence (to be discussed also in connection with the treaties of guarantee and
of alliance); security (as it pertains to federal responsibility).
2.2 Additional powers and functions may be vested in the federal government by
common agreement of both sides. Accordingly, the residual powers shall rest with
the provinces or federated states. Federal legislation may be executed either by
authorities of the federal government or by
way of coordination between the competent authorities of the federal government
and of the two provinces or federated states.
3.1 The legislature of the Federal Republic will be composed of two chambers: a
lower chamber with a 70-30 Greek Cypriot and Turkish Cypriot representation, and
an upper chamber with a 50-50 representation. Federal legislation will be enacted
with regard to the matters of federal competence as referred to in paragraph 2.1
above. The adoption of legislation on major matters, as for instance on ten of the
twelve functions referred to in paragraph 2.1 above, will require separate
majorities in both chambers. The adoption of legislation on other matters will
require majorities of the membership in each chamber.
3.2 Appropriate constitutional safeguards and deadlock resolving machinery
including special provisions to facilitate action on matters necessary for the
continued functioning of the federal government (e.g. on budgetary questions) will
be incorporated in the federal constitution. In case of deadlock in the legislature,
the proposed legislation may be submitted in the first instance to a conciliation
committee of the legislature composed of three Greek Cypriots and two Turkish
Cypriots, whose decision will be taken on the basis of majority vote including at
least one Turkish Cypriot. If the deadlock persists, the president and vice-president
of the Federal Republic will, upon request, appoint on an ad hoc basis one persons
each, selected for their knowledge of the subject involved, who, with the
assistance of experts as needed, including from outside the Federal Republic of
Cyprus, will advise the legislature on ways the deadlock could be resolved. The
matter may also be submitted to a referendum among the population of the
community which opposed the draft legislation. Legislation adopted by the
legislature may be taken to the Constitutional Court for ruling as to whether it
violates the constitution or is discriminatory against either community.
4.1 The Federal Republic will have a presidential system of government. The
president and the vice-president will symbolise the unity of the country and the
equal political status of the two communities. In addition, the executive will
reflect the functional requirements of an effective federal government.
4.2 The president will be a Greek Cypriot and the vice-president will be a Turkish
Cypriot. The president and the vice-president will, separately or conjointly, have
the right to veto any law or decision of the legislature and the Council of Ministers
in areas to be agreed upon, it being understood that the scope will exceed that
covered by the 1960 constitution. The president and the vice-president will have
the right, separately or conjointly, to return any law or decision of the legislature
or any decision of the Council of Ministers for reconsideration.
4.3 The Council of Ministers will be composed of Greek Cypriot and Turkish Cypriot
ministers on a 7 to 3 ratio. One major ministry will be headed by a Turkish Cypriot,
it being understood that the parties agree to discuss that the Minister for Foreign
Affairs will be a Turkish Cypriot. The Council of Ministers will take decisions by
weighted voting, that is a simple majority including at least one Turkish Cypriot
minister. It is understood that the parties agree to discuss that weighted voting will
apply to all matters of special concern to the Turkish Cypriot community to be
agreed upon.
4.4 Appropriate constitutional safeguards and deadlock resolving machinery related
to decisions by the Council of Ministers, including special provisions to facilitate
action on matters necessary for the continued functioning of the federal
government, will be incorporated in the federal constitution. In case of deadlock,
the president and vice- president of the Federal Republic will, upon request,
appoint on an ad hoc basis one person each, selected for their knowledge of the
subject involved, who, with the assistance of experts as needed, including from
outside the Federal Republic of Cyprus, will advise the Council of Ministers on ways
the deadlock could be resolved. The matter may also be submitted to a referendum
among the population of the community which opposed the draft decision. A
decision by the Council of Ministers may be taken to the Constitutional Court for
ruling as to whether it violates the constitution or is discriminatory against either
community.
5.1 The Constitutional Court, when ruling on disputes relating to the distribution of
powers and functions between the federal government and the provinces or
federated states and on such other matters as may be assigned to it by the parties
in accordance with the federal constitution, will be composed of one Greek
Cypriot, one Turkish Cypriot and one non-Cypriot voting member,
6.1 As regards freedom of movement, freedom of settlement and right to property,
a working group will discuss the exercise of these rights, including time-frames,
practical regulations and possible compensation arrangements, taking into account
guideline 3 of the 1977 agreement.
7.1 Territorial adjustments, in addition to the areas already referred to in the 5
August 1981 Turkish Cypriot proposals, will be agreed upon. These territorial
adjustments will result in the Turkish Cypriot province or federated state
comprising in the order of 29 plus per cent of the territory of the Federal Republic.
It is understood that when discussing the actual territorial adjustments the two
sides will have in mind the 1977 high-level agreement including 'certain practical
difficulties which may arise for the Turkish Cypriot community' and the questions
related to resettlement. Both sides agree to suggest special status areas adjacent
to each other for the purpose of enhancing trust between the sides. These areas
will remain under their respective civilian jurisdictions.
8.1 A timetable for the withdrawal of non-Cypriot military troops and elements, as
well as adequate guarantees, will be agreed upon prior to the establishment of a
transitional federal government. In the meantime, military deconfrontation
measures will be pursued by both sides, using the good offices and assistance of
UNFICYP.
8.2 The two sides undertake to discuss these issues in good faith and to consider
each other's concerns on them.
9.1 A Fund for Development of the Turkish Cypriot province or federated state shall
be established with a view to achieving an economic equilibrium between the two
provinces or federated states. A fund will also be established to facilitate the
resettlement of the Greek Cypriot displaced persons, and for the Turkish Cypriots
displaced as a consequence of the implementation of paragraph 7.1. The federal
government shall contribute to these funds. Foreign governments and international
organisations shall be invited to contribute to the funds.
10.1 The Varosha area and the six additional areas delineated in the Turkish
Cypriot map of 5 August 1981 will be placed under United Nations interim
administration as part of the UNFICYP buffer zone for resettlement by....outlined in this agreement, both on the international scene and internally.
12.1 The Nicosia international airport will be reopened under interim United
Nations administration with free access from both sides. The United Nations will
conclude the arrangements to that effect by....
13.1 Adequate machinery for considering allegations of non-implementation of
confidence-building measures will be agreed upon. The Secretary-General will
make appropriate recommendations to both sides in this regard.
14.1 The parties to agree to establish working groups to work out the detailed
agreements on the matters referred to in this agreement, whose elements are
inter-related and constitute an integrated whole. The working groups will carry out
their work under the direction of joint high-level
meetings. These joint high-level meetings will take place every three to four
months, on the basis of an agenda prepared by the Secretary-General, to discuss
the issues which remain to be negotiated under this agreement, to review the work
and provide guidance to the working groups. The joint high-level meetings will be
convened by the Secretary-General after adequate preparation.
14.2 Each working group will be composed of delegations from the two sides and
will be chaired by a representative of the Secretary-General. The working groups
will begin their meetings at the United Nations premises in Nicosia on.... Each
working group will prepare a programme of work and will submit it for approval
and guidance to the joint high-level meeting which will take place at the United
Nations premises in Nicosia on....
14.3 The representative of the Secretary-General chairing each working group will
every three months prepare an assessment of the progress made by the working
group, which will be presented to the next joint high-level meeting together with
the views of the Secretary-General.
15.1 The parties agree that, the required working groups having completed their
work and having obtained the approval of the two sides, the transitional federal
government of the Federal Republic of Cyprus will be set up on....
16.1 The Secretary-General will remain at the disposal of the parties to assist in
the elaboration of this agreement, and, if required, in its interpretation.