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Talat Talking Tough - No Unitary State!

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Postby DT. » Fri Mar 05, 2010 4:41 pm

halil wrote:
paliometoxo wrote:
halil wrote:
paliometoxo wrote:whats out of the question is that two states crap they keep saying about...

but hes always been saying two states even before the elections, just they call it re unification two states under one they have never said one actual state, the one actual state talat has always been talking about is two under one


Palio,
Talks are goes on about BBF in Cyprus . Try to refresh your memory very lately what UN secretary said at his last Cyprus visit. many times i put in here what was the 23rd agreement between two sides. Still Talat policies are following that agreement.

Talat was responding to claims in the Greek Cypriot press that the Turkish Side had changed stance in favor of a unitary state, He denied the speculations, stating that the negotiations were being conducted with the aim of reaching a federal settlement. as stated in 23rd may.


he would lose 99% of the votes in the north though if he said yes a unitary state live with gcs


Palio ,
since 1977 all the talks goes on BBF basics.....

have a look 1986 draft agreement .......... another draft agreement similar to this one might announced in this month.

Draft Framework Agreement on Cyprus, 29 March
1986


Halil for the love of GOD!!!! Stop the propaganda...we're knee deep in shit with your last 2 posts.

This is a framework that was delivered to the 2 sides by the UN Secretary General. The word "draft" here is the key. The reason this did not go ahead was very simple
The Denktash regime held on May 5, 1985 a "referendum" for the approval of a so-called "new constitution" for the pseudo-state. The Cyprus Government launched an official protest with the U.N. The Republic's Foreign Minister, Mr. Iacovou, in a letter to the Secretary-General strongly denounced the new faits accomplis.
In spite of the strong international condemnation of the "referendum" the Denktash regime proceeded with two new secessionist acts i.e. the holding of the so-called "presidential elections" on June 9 and "general elections" on June 23. The Cyprus government strongly protested to the U.N. pointing out that this kind of "elections" in the occupied area were illegal and their "results" were based on intimidation tactics exercised by the Turkish armed forces and the adulteration caused by the fact that about a third of the electorate consisted of settlers, who had explicit instructions to vote for the policy line of Ankara and Denktash. The above actions poisoned the already tense climate even further and added more complications to the already difficult task of the UN Secretary-General and his efforts to find a comprehensive solution to the Cyprus problem. Despite the Turkish provocations the Cyprus Government participated in a series of low level technical talks in Geneva and London during the autumn and winter of 1985-1986 under the auspices of the United Nations. At the end of three rounds of low level talks the UN Secretary-General produced a new "Draft Framework Agreement" which he submitted to the two sides on March 29, 1986. The Cyprus Government and the Greek Cypriot side made several constructive comments in order to ensure the implementation of the three fundamental prerequisites for the settlement of the problem, i.e. the withdrawal of all foreign troops and elements from the territory of the Republic, the safeguarding of the basic freedoms of all Cypriot citizens including the rights to property, settlement and freedom of movement and the securing of effective international guarantees.

For the latter the Cyprus Government insisted on the convening of a representative international conference in order to deal with the external aspects of the problem and supported to this effect the then Soviet proposal of January 21, 1986, which suggests such a procedure.
The Turkish side rejected the idea of the international conference and avoided discussion on the fundamental aspects of the Cyprus problem. In addition during the intervening period the Turkish side proceeded with the consolidation of the faits accomplis; the importation of Anatolian settlers was speeded up and according to latest estimates they have reached over 80.000 while the Turkish occupation forces have been strengthened both numerically and qualitatively.


In other words, this was rejected by your friend Denktash.
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Re: Talat Talking Tough - No Unitary State!

Postby YFred » Fri Mar 05, 2010 4:47 pm

Kikapu wrote:
Oracle wrote:What's the difference between Talat and Eroglu?

Well, Talat has been lying his way through "negotiations" all these years.

Finally he tells the truth so that he can steal some votes from the TC partitionists.


Talat says unitary state in Cyprus out of question

Friday, 05 March 2010 08:45

Mehmet Ali Talat said on Thursday that an unitary state in Cyprus was out of question.

Talat and Greek Cypriot leader Demetris Christofias met at buffer zone in Lefkosa within the scope of talks to find a solution to Cyprus issue.

When journalists asked to comment on the news reports which appeared in Greek Cypriot media that there was a drift towards unitary state in thesis of the Turkish party regarding economy, Talat said an unitary state was out of question.

"We are after forming a federal structure. Negotiations continue within the scope of what should be done in federal structures," Talat said.


http://www.worldbulletin.net/news_detail.php?id=55029


Leaders who are meeting for the 69th time under the talks made certain progress over certain issues, but disagreement over issues like property, power sharing and treaty of guaranty still prevails.


Unless the TCs let go the Dreams of Taksim to become permanent, all the talks are nothing but "69".!!

Strangly i always associate that activity between a man and a woman. But of course we all have differing experiences in the world.
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Postby SKI-preo » Fri Mar 05, 2010 4:48 pm

My dyslexia is playing up. I first read it as "No Urinal Cake". He's taking the piss.

Discounting a unitary state maybe one of the reasons the talks have achieved nothing in 35 years. The BBF is too complicated with too many ambiguities and will not result in us being BFFs.
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Re: Talat Talking Tough - No Unitary State!

Postby Paphitis » Fri Mar 05, 2010 4:51 pm

YFred wrote:
Kikapu wrote:
Oracle wrote:What's the difference between Talat and Eroglu?

Well, Talat has been lying his way through "negotiations" all these years.

Finally he tells the truth so that he can steal some votes from the TC partitionists.


Talat says unitary state in Cyprus out of question

Friday, 05 March 2010 08:45

Mehmet Ali Talat said on Thursday that an unitary state in Cyprus was out of question.

Talat and Greek Cypriot leader Demetris Christofias met at buffer zone in Lefkosa within the scope of talks to find a solution to Cyprus issue.

When journalists asked to comment on the news reports which appeared in Greek Cypriot media that there was a drift towards unitary state in thesis of the Turkish party regarding economy, Talat said an unitary state was out of question.

"We are after forming a federal structure. Negotiations continue within the scope of what should be done in federal structures," Talat said.


http://www.worldbulletin.net/news_detail.php?id=55029


Leaders who are meeting for the 69th time under the talks made certain progress over certain issues, but disagreement over issues like property, power sharing and treaty of guaranty still prevails.


Unless the TCs let go the Dreams of Taksim to become permanent, all the talks are nothing but "69".!!

Strangly i always associate that activity between a man and a woman. But of course we all have differing experiences in the world.


Christofias is a man, and Talat is his ugly bald bitch! :lol: :lol:

But I believe Talat told Downer that Christofias does not measure up! :lol: :lol:
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Re: Talat Talking Tough - No Unitary State!

Postby denizaksulu » Fri Mar 05, 2010 4:51 pm

Paphitis wrote:
Kikapu wrote:
Oracle wrote:What's the difference between Talat and Eroglu?

Well, Talat has been lying his way through "negotiations" all these years.

Finally he tells the truth so that he can steal some votes from the TC partitionists.


Talat says unitary state in Cyprus out of question

Friday, 05 March 2010 08:45

Mehmet Ali Talat said on Thursday that an unitary state in Cyprus was out of question.

Talat and Greek Cypriot leader Demetris Christofias met at buffer zone in Lefkosa within the scope of talks to find a solution to Cyprus issue.

When journalists asked to comment on the news reports which appeared in Greek Cypriot media that there was a drift towards unitary state in thesis of the Turkish party regarding economy, Talat said an unitary state was out of question.

"We are after forming a federal structure. Negotiations continue within the scope of what should be done in federal structures," Talat said.


http://www.worldbulletin.net/news_detail.php?id=55029


Leaders who are meeting for the 69th time under the talks made certain progress over certain issues, but disagreement over issues like property, power sharing and treaty of guaranty still prevails.


Unless the TCs let go the Dreams of Taksim to become permanent, all the talks are nothing but "69".!!


Bloomin hell! :shock:

The image of Talat and Christofias negotiating in these "69" talks, whilst downer is watching, is most disturbing! :roll:


Enrapturing, or was it 'enrupturing'? :lol: :lol:
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Re: Talat Talking Tough - No Unitary State!

Postby Paphitis » Fri Mar 05, 2010 5:11 pm

denizaksulu wrote:
Paphitis wrote:
Kikapu wrote:
Oracle wrote:What's the difference between Talat and Eroglu?

Well, Talat has been lying his way through "negotiations" all these years.

Finally he tells the truth so that he can steal some votes from the TC partitionists.


Talat says unitary state in Cyprus out of question

Friday, 05 March 2010 08:45

Mehmet Ali Talat said on Thursday that an unitary state in Cyprus was out of question.

Talat and Greek Cypriot leader Demetris Christofias met at buffer zone in Lefkosa within the scope of talks to find a solution to Cyprus issue.

When journalists asked to comment on the news reports which appeared in Greek Cypriot media that there was a drift towards unitary state in thesis of the Turkish party regarding economy, Talat said an unitary state was out of question.

"We are after forming a federal structure. Negotiations continue within the scope of what should be done in federal structures," Talat said.


http://www.worldbulletin.net/news_detail.php?id=55029


Leaders who are meeting for the 69th time under the talks made certain progress over certain issues, but disagreement over issues like property, power sharing and treaty of guaranty still prevails.


Unless the TCs let go the Dreams of Taksim to become permanent, all the talks are nothing but "69".!!


Bloomin hell! :shock:

The image of Talat and Christofias negotiating in these "69" talks, whilst downer is watching, is most disturbing! :roll:


Enrapturing, or was it 'enrupturing'? :lol: :lol:


You devil you! :lol:
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Re: Talat Talking Tough - No Unitary State!

Postby denizaksulu » Fri Mar 05, 2010 5:18 pm

Paphitis wrote:
denizaksulu wrote:
Paphitis wrote:
Kikapu wrote:
Oracle wrote:What's the difference between Talat and Eroglu?

Well, Talat has been lying his way through "negotiations" all these years.

Finally he tells the truth so that he can steal some votes from the TC partitionists.


Talat says unitary state in Cyprus out of question

Friday, 05 March 2010 08:45

Mehmet Ali Talat said on Thursday that an unitary state in Cyprus was out of question.

Talat and Greek Cypriot leader Demetris Christofias met at buffer zone in Lefkosa within the scope of talks to find a solution to Cyprus issue.

When journalists asked to comment on the news reports which appeared in Greek Cypriot media that there was a drift towards unitary state in thesis of the Turkish party regarding economy, Talat said an unitary state was out of question.

"We are after forming a federal structure. Negotiations continue within the scope of what should be done in federal structures," Talat said.


http://www.worldbulletin.net/news_detail.php?id=55029


Leaders who are meeting for the 69th time under the talks made certain progress over certain issues, but disagreement over issues like property, power sharing and treaty of guaranty still prevails.


Unless the TCs let go the Dreams of Taksim to become permanent, all the talks are nothing but "69".!!


Bloomin hell! :shock:

The image of Talat and Christofias negotiating in these "69" talks, whilst downer is watching, is most disturbing! :roll:


Enrapturing, or was it 'enrupturing'? :lol: :lol:


You devil you! :lol:



I might be the devil, but all along I have been saying that the two leaders are dancing to different tunes. No one believes me :cry:

It is 'lost in translation'? (the title of the talks that is!!) :?
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Postby halil » Fri Mar 05, 2010 5:53 pm

Dear DT.....not long time to go end of the march........similar draft agreement will come out ........ only with littlr modifications ..... pls be patient and use to negotiation producer ..... They are talking BBF not uniter state.....some must be playing with you.
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Re: Talat Talking Tough - No Unitary State!

Postby Kikapu » Fri Mar 05, 2010 6:47 pm

YFred wrote:
Kikapu wrote:
Oracle wrote:What's the difference between Talat and Eroglu?

Well, Talat has been lying his way through "negotiations" all these years.

Finally he tells the truth so that he can steal some votes from the TC partitionists.


Talat says unitary state in Cyprus out of question

Friday, 05 March 2010 08:45

Mehmet Ali Talat said on Thursday that an unitary state in Cyprus was out of question.

Talat and Greek Cypriot leader Demetris Christofias met at buffer zone in Lefkosa within the scope of talks to find a solution to Cyprus issue.

When journalists asked to comment on the news reports which appeared in Greek Cypriot media that there was a drift towards unitary state in thesis of the Turkish party regarding economy, Talat said an unitary state was out of question.

"We are after forming a federal structure. Negotiations continue within the scope of what should be done in federal structures," Talat said.


http://www.worldbulletin.net/news_detail.php?id=55029


Leaders who are meeting for the 69th time under the talks made certain progress over certain issues, but disagreement over issues like property, power sharing and treaty of guaranty still prevails.


Unless the TCs let go the Dreams of Taksim to become permanent, all the talks are nothing but "69".!!

Strangly i always associate that activity between a man and a woman. But of course we all have differing experiences in the world.


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Postby wallace » Fri Mar 05, 2010 6:52 pm

halil wrote:Dear DT.....not long time to go end of the march........similar draft agreement will come out ........ only with littlr modifications ..... pls be patient and use to negotiation producer ..... They are talking BBF not uniter state.....some must be playing with you.


Dear Halil...they are talking BBF and not a confederation...looking at the proposals put on the table by talat......some must be playing with you. :lol:
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