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Germany flexes its muscles (again)

Postby Talisker » Fri Mar 05, 2010 12:20 am

Greece told to sell off islands and artworks

Two senior German MPs have demanded that Greece sell off some of its islands, historic buildings and art works as a condition of receiving a financial lifeline from the EU.

The call for a Big Fat Greek Auction – which would also include ancient artefacts and stakes in state-owned companies – to repay some of the country's debt mountain came on the eve of crucial talks between the German chancellor, Angela Merkel, and the Greek prime minister, George Papadreou, in Berlin tomorrow and takes the mudslinging between the two countries to a new level.

Frank Schaeffler, an economics specialist and member of Germany's Free Democrats, said Athens should sell stakes in companies and "assets, such as uninhabited islands". Marco Wanderwitz – a member of Merkel's conservative CDU party – went even further: "If the European Union, and therefore Germany, helps out Greece economically, it will need to give something in exchange … some islands, for example, might be a solution.''

The Bild tabloid newspaper put it rather more succinctly: "We give you cash, you give us Corfu … and the Acropolis too".

Dimitris Droutsas, Greece's deputy foreign minister, was not amused. "Suggestions like this are not appropriate at this time," he told German television.

According to a poll published today, 84% of Germans think the EU should refuse to help Athens.

The Greeks are increasingly resentful of Germany's hardline stance. Germany's Nazi past has been dragged up and German car dealers and supermarket chains have been hit by boycotts.

There are some 6,000 Greek islands, scattered across the Aegean and Ionian seas, ranging from Crete, the biggest at more than 3,000 square miles, to tiny rocky islets barely big enough for a single sunbed. Only around 220 are inhabited. Many are already up for sale.

The Private Islands Online website, which specialises in selling island paradises and rocky outcrops across the world, says a little bit of land surrounded by sea in the Cyclades or Dodecanese is the perfect trophy asset: "Greek islands are the ultimate status symbol, evoking images of sunglass-sporting shipping magnates sipping champagne on the deck of enormous yachts."

The price it insists, is really quite reasonable. The islands are "relatively affordable … costing as little as $2m – less than a ski chalet in Aspen or a walk-up on the Upper East Side".

Currently up for grabs is St Athanasios island, just 2.5 acres, in the Gulf of Corinth, with an asking price of €1.5m. Those who need more space might be interested in St Thomas, a 300 acre isle in the Diapori chain, a water taxi ride from Athens and on the market for €15m.

This week Papandreou set out his third round of austerity measures, including public sector pay cuts and tax increases. Greek unions announced a series of strikes in protest.

The Greek treasury successfully raised €5bn in a make-or-break bond issue, but more than €50bn of Greek debt is due this year – €20bn in the coming weeks – and the country needs to borrow more to meet repayments. If it cannot it will be in default and European banks with Greek investments would be forced into vast write-offs. The problem could then spread to other countries with huge deficits.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2010/ma ... ds-auction

Deja vu?

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Postby Oracle » Fri Mar 05, 2010 12:27 am

That's just British press trying to stir up hatred for both Germany (WWIII invasion by economics) and for much-envied Greece.

Really Talisker. You should know better! :roll:
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Postby Talisker » Fri Mar 05, 2010 12:38 am

Oracle wrote:That's just British press trying to stir up hatred for both Germany (WWIII invasion by economics) and for much-envied Greece.

Really Talisker. You should know better! :roll:

So - tell me - is the EU a 'union' or a club in which the rich engineer 'opportunistic acquisition' from the weak?
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Postby apc2010 » Fri Mar 05, 2010 12:42 am

Oracle wrote:That's just British press trying to stir up hatred for both Germany (WWIII invasion by economics) and for much-envied Greece.

Really Talisker. You should know better! :roll:

you should know stirring hatred from history , you are the master
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Postby Get Real! » Fri Mar 05, 2010 1:00 am

Oracle wrote:....and for much-envied Greece.

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Postby Oracle » Fri Mar 05, 2010 1:06 am

Fuck off, all of you!
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Postby apc2010 » Fri Mar 05, 2010 1:14 am

Oracle wrote:Fuck off, all of you!

always nice to hear
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Postby Oracle » Fri Mar 05, 2010 1:31 am

apc2010 wrote:
Oracle wrote:Fuck off, all of you!

always nice to hear


About as nice to hear as everyone crowing, encouraging the Germans to finish off what they started in WWII ... to take the most precious jewel of Europe. My mother fucking fought the Germans during her young years to free Greece. And then fought the dark Imperialist forces for two years in a bloody civil war to keep Greece intact. And now you think some engineered "moments of weakness" will give anyone rights to tear it to bits?

Shame on you ALL! :evil:


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Postby apc2010 » Fri Mar 05, 2010 1:49 am

I am sure your mother did not just say "fuck off all of you". This is all history .If mankind can move forward everyone needs to forgive.. I am not a hippy but a realist, breeding hatred is bad from where ever
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Postby Oracle » Fri Mar 05, 2010 2:06 am

So a 'realist' would entertain Greece selling off her thousands of years nurtured islands, huh?

A Hedge Fund Manager more like ... :roll:
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