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[Epiktitos]

Woman, I couldn't care less if a nuclear warhead was to land on Greece and blow her to a million pieces!

I wonder how you would feel if Greeks expressed similar sentiments regarding Cyprus being conquered in its entirety by the turks...let me guess: you wouldn't care less! (just so long as it didn't happen, presumably).

Ignoring the ethno-cultural aspect for a moment, are you prepared to explain your hatred of Greece? Is it just for the unforgivable mistakes of the junta in 1974? Or do you believe that the policies pursued by the Greek government of today are in any way detrimental to the RoC? Have you or your kin been personally slighted by Greece, or Greeks?

[halil]

topic was .........[b]for those striving to reunite Cyprus[/b]

go on and try to find how ?

who cares about Greeks or Turks or others.......... our problem is how we can come together ? Me and GR does not have any problem between each other. We can get on very well . both of us know how to respect to each other.....it is your problem if u have a always dirty plans... who cares!

[Paphitis]

paliometoxo, GR met Halil once and he never forgot it. GR had a sore arse for two weeks but we never found out why?

I'd be more worried about Greece's arse if I were you! Greece can't even vote anymore from what I've heard!

Even little Malta has more power in the EU than Greece!

Well, you'd better pray for Cyprus' sake that isn't true. The USA has been conspiring to find a way to do this for years and it's shameful that you would nonchalantly see Cyprus jeopardised, just so that you can have another dig at Greece!

As I said many times in the past… with friends like these who needs enemies!

Greece isn't just a "friend". She is our main ally. Remember blood allies GR! For ever! It's hardly as though we have a multitude of friends to choose from. We need Greece to be strong and you know it. Anyway, the news over here was much better. It seems everyone is pleased with the planned austerity measures and stocks and shares having been doing "things" to make people rich again!

Woman, I couldn't care less if a nuclear warhead was to land on Greece and blow her to a million pieces! Same goes for Turkey!

I hate them both with a passion and there’s nothing you can say to sweet talk me into liking or feeling sorry for them.

I hear that the weather on the Greek islands will improve soon.

So when is your next vacation to Santorini or was it Mykonos? Or are you going to settle for Paphos and Latchi again?

[Paphitis]

paliometoxo, GR met Halil once and he never forgot it. GR had a sore arse for two weeks but we never found out why?

I'd be more worried about Greece's arse if I were you! Greece can't even vote anymore from what I've heard!

Even little Malta has more power in the EU than Greece!

Well, you'd better pray for Cyprus' sake that isn't true. The USA has been conspiring to find a way to do this for years and it's shameful that you would nonchalantly see Cyprus jeopardised, just so that you can have another dig at Greece!

You better quite this nonsense yourself!

I think it is about time you stopped harping on about a Hellenic Cyprus and start talking about Cypriotism. I am upset that you would continue to feed the neo Cypriots with ammunition, thus prolonging this immature identity crisis.

The only solution is for the adoption of Cypriotism as an identity. This is what happens when nations grow and mature. But that does not mean that Hellenism is erased from the Cypriot identity, as both are intertwined.

Yes, Cypriots have their own unique culture. Respect it, don't trash it.

[Epiktitos]

paliometoxo, GR met Halil once and he never forgot it. GR had a sore arse for two weeks but we never found out why?

I'd be more worried about Greece's arse if I were you! Greece can't even vote anymore from what I've heard!

Even little Malta has more power in the EU than Greece!

Well, you'd better pray for Cyprus' sake that isn't true. The USA has been conspiring to find a way to do this for years and it's shameful that you would nonchalantly see Cyprus jeopardised, just so that you can have another dig at Greece!

You better quite this nonsense yourself!

I think it is about time you stopped harping on about a Hellenic Cyprus and start talking about Cypriotism. I am upset that you would continue to feed the neo Cypriots with ammunition, thus prolonging this immature identity crisis.

The only solution is for the adoption of Cypriotism as an identity. This is what happens when nations grow and mature. But that does not mean that Hellenism is erased from the Cypriot identity, as both are intertwined.

Yes, Cypriots have their own unique culture. Respect it, don't trash it.

How can you be such an imperialist ideologue when it comes to your beloved Australia and United States, yet become such a bolshie zealot when it comes to Cyprus and your "cypriotism"?

http://dzforum.de/downloads/020101007.pdf

[Paphitis]

paliometoxo, GR met Halil once and he never forgot it. GR had a sore arse for two weeks but we never found out why?

I'd be more worried about Greece's arse if I were you! Greece can't even vote anymore from what I've heard!

Even little Malta has more power in the EU than Greece!

Well, you'd better pray for Cyprus' sake that isn't true. The USA has been conspiring to find a way to do this for years and it's shameful that you would nonchalantly see Cyprus jeopardised, just so that you can have another dig at Greece!

You better quite this nonsense yourself!

I think it is about time you stopped harping on about a Hellenic Cyprus and start talking about Cypriotism. I am upset that you would continue to feed the neo Cypriots with ammunition, thus prolonging this immature identity crisis.

The only solution is for the adoption of Cypriotism as an identity. This is what happens when nations grow and mature. But that does not mean that Hellenism is erased from the Cypriot identity, as both are intertwined.

Yes, Cypriots have their own unique culture. Respect it, don't trash it.

How can you be such an imperialist ideologue when it comes to your beloved Australia and United States, yet become such a bolshie zealot when it comes to Cyprus and your "cypriotism"?

http://dzforum.de/downloads/020101007.pdf

Wrong again Epictetus.

I don't have any allegiance to the US at all. But I don't like the rubbish spouted by GR! If you want to call the US a criminal rogue nation, then you better come up with credible links to back up these claims. Simply posting hysterical nonsense does not cut it I'm afraid.

Furthermore, you will do well to have another read of my post to GR!, since it was he who claimed that American Cypriots should be treated with disrespect since they hail from the US, which he claims is a "war criminal". Even if that were the case, there is sweet FA Cypriots in the American diaspora can do about this, and this most certainly does not give GR! the license to treat them with disrespect, if you want them to develop links with the old country, which is challenging enough as it is!

Furthermore, you don't need any paper or link to disprove the existence of Cypriotism. I and thousands of others no full well that it exists, just like Australians exist. So stop disrespecting my identity. I believe you have no right!

[Epiktitos]

paliometoxo, GR met Halil once and he never forgot it. GR had a sore arse for two weeks but we never found out why?

I'd be more worried about Greece's arse if I were you! Greece can't even vote anymore from what I've heard!

Even little Malta has more power in the EU than Greece!

Well, you'd better pray for Cyprus' sake that isn't true. The USA has been conspiring to find a way to do this for years and it's shameful that you would nonchalantly see Cyprus jeopardised, just so that you can have another dig at Greece!

You better quite this nonsense yourself!

I think it is about time you stopped harping on about a Hellenic Cyprus and start talking about Cypriotism. I am upset that you would continue to feed the neo Cypriots with ammunition, thus prolonging this immature identity crisis.

The only solution is for the adoption of Cypriotism as an identity. This is what happens when nations grow and mature. But that does not mean that Hellenism is erased from the Cypriot identity, as both are intertwined.

Yes, Cypriots have their own unique culture. Respect it, don't trash it.

How can you be such an imperialist ideologue when it comes to your beloved Australia and United States, yet become such a bolshie zealot when it comes to Cyprus and your "cypriotism"?

http://dzforum.de/downloads/020101007.pdf

Wrong again Epictetus.

I don't have any allegiance to the US at all. But I don't like the rubbish spouted by GR! If you want to call the US a criminal rogue nation, then you better come up with credible links to back up these claims. Simply posting hysterical nonsense does not cut it I'm afraid.

Furthermore, you will do well to have another read of my post to GR!, since it was he who claimed that American Cypriots should be treated with disrespect since they hail from the US, which he claims is a "war criminal". Even if that were the case, there is sweet FA Cypriots in the American diaspora can do about this, and this most certainly does not give GR! the license to treat them with disrespect, if you want them to develop links with the old country, which is challenging enough as it is!

Thank you for your attempt at helping me, a simple and humble man, with my comprehension of your words.

I am still confused however. Please point out for me where I have erred.
1. You denied that the US has committed war crimes.
2. I posted a reference to a list of well-known US war crimes (including admission by US commanders of them having committed war crimes, e.g. unrestricted naval warfare in WWII)
3. You rubbished the reference I posted.
4. I asked you if you denied that a specific and well known instance of war crimes committed by US forces - the My Lai Massacre occurred.
5. You dithered, moved to another thread, and posted unrelated nonsense.

So I ask you again: do you believe that the My Lai Massacre occurred, and serves as an example of a war crime committed by the US military, or do you not?

Please choose from one of the following options:
1. Yes, I believe that the My Lai Massacre occurred, and serves as an example of a war crime committed by the US military
2. No, I do not believe that the My Lai Massacre ever occurred
3. No, I do not believe that the My Lai Massacre constitutes an example of a war crime committed by the US military.

[miltiades]

LONG MAY THE USA CONTINUE AS THE WORLDS SUPERPOWER SINCE THE ALTERNATIVE WOULD BE A DISASTER FOR THE FREE THINKING MAN.
All those who spew out anti American slogans ought to understand that they are not in least helpful to the Cypriot Americans who tirelessly promote the unification of our island and the removal of the occupying troops.
I have never had any respect for those insane individuals who are on an anti USA crusade , the chief offender GR the clown, and I ask you plonkers what the fuck would Cyprus gain by plonkers like you constantly deriding the USA . Does Cyprus stand to gain anything from your anti American vitriol . Sweet FA .
Has anyone taken into account that the USA needs Turkey far more that it needs Cyprus and yet steadfastly refuses to bow to Turkeys demands for recognition of the "trnc" I bet if they thought that all Cypriots are like GR and other American haters they would rush to recognize.
This other plonker , Epihestos , is so bloody concerned with American atrocities committed during the 2nd WW , ha cant sleep at night so concerned he is. Mate , Bin Ladin is looking out for guys like you , go join him plonker.

[Epiktitos]

LONG MAY THE USA CONTINUE AS THE WORLDS SUPERPOWER SINCE THE ALTERNATIVE WOULD BE A DISASTER FOR THE FREE THINKING MAN.
All those who spew out anti American slogans ought to understand that they are not in least helpful to the Cypriot Americans who tirelessly promote the unification of our island and the removal of the occupying troops.
I have never had any respect for those insane individuals who are on an anti USA crusade , the chief offender GR the clown, and I ask you plonkers what the fuck would Cyprus gain by plonkers like you constantly deriding the USA . Does Cyprus stand to gain anything from your anti American vitriol . Sweet FA .
Has anyone taken into account that the USA needs Turkey far more that it needs Cyprus and yet steadfastly refuses to bow to Turkeys demands for recognition of the "trnc" I bet if they thought that all Cypriots are like GR and other American haters they would rush to recognize.
This other plonker , Epihestos , is so bloody concerned with American atrocities committed during the 2nd WW , ha cant sleep at night so concerned he is. Mate , Bin Ladin is looking out for guys like you , go join him plonker.

So barpa Milt, in your version of history did the Mai Lai Massacre not occur, or did it not constitute a war crime? Simple question, no need for a rambling response.

Once we get past this point of principle, we can get on to the perpetrators of more pertinent war crimes.

And be thankful that the war crimes committed during the second world war did not touch you or your recent ancestors.

[Paphitis]

paliometoxo, GR met Halil once and he never forgot it. GR had a sore arse for two weeks but we never found out why?

I'd be more worried about Greece's arse if I were you! Greece can't even vote anymore from what I've heard!

Even little Malta has more power in the EU than Greece!

Well, you'd better pray for Cyprus' sake that isn't true. The USA has been conspiring to find a way to do this for years and it's shameful that you would nonchalantly see Cyprus jeopardised, just so that you can have another dig at Greece!

You better quite this nonsense yourself!

I think it is about time you stopped harping on about a Hellenic Cyprus and start talking about Cypriotism. I am upset that you would continue to feed the neo Cypriots with ammunition, thus prolonging this immature identity crisis.

The only solution is for the adoption of Cypriotism as an identity. This is what happens when nations grow and mature. But that does not mean that Hellenism is erased from the Cypriot identity, as both are intertwined.

Yes, Cypriots have their own unique culture. Respect it, don't trash it.

How can you be such an imperialist ideologue when it comes to your beloved Australia and United States, yet become such a bolshie zealot when it comes to Cyprus and your "cypriotism"?

http://dzforum.de/downloads/020101007.pdf

Wrong again Epictetus.

I don't have any allegiance to the US at all. But I don't like the rubbish spouted by GR! If you want to call the US a criminal rogue nation, then you better come up with credible links to back up these claims. Simply posting hysterical nonsense does not cut it I'm afraid.

Furthermore, you will do well to have another read of my post to GR!, since it was he who claimed that American Cypriots should be treated with disrespect since they hail from the US, which he claims is a "war criminal". Even if that were the case, there is sweet FA Cypriots in the American diaspora can do about this, and this most certainly does not give GR! the license to treat them with disrespect, if you want them to develop links with the old country, which is challenging enough as it is!

Epiktitos wrote:

Thank you for your attempt at helping me, a simple and humble man, with my comprehension of your words.

I am still confused however. Please point out for me where I have erred.
1. You denied that the US has committed war crimes.

Our opinions mean very little when there is no UN resolution or international trial about US War Crimes!

You can say whatever you like, but that does not change the facts!

Epiktitos wrote:

2. I posted a reference to a list of well-known US war crimes (including admission by US commanders of them having committed war crimes, e.g. unrestricted naval warfare in WWII)

Sure, we have even had internal investigations in the Australian Armed forces about Vietnam.

But still, there was no international condemnation from an official source such as the UN! War can create many outbursts of emotion and anger in the heat of the moment, but what matters is the general ethos and behavior of the chain of command whilst intact.

Epiktitos wrote:

3. You rubbished the reference I posted.

Sorry, I wouldn't do this if you didn't post rubbish to begin with!

Epiktitos wrote:

4. I asked you if you denied that a specific and well known instance of war crimes committed by US forces - the My Lai Massacre occurred.

Yes I deny it! Was there any further action aside from the court martial? NO there wasn't!

What you are talking about is an isolated instance where a US Army unit acted outside its rules of engagement and not under the direction of the US Army chain of command. Lesser soldiers can behave like barbarians in the heat of the moment, especially when they see their mates blown to bits. Who are you to judge the US Army chain of command and condemn a whole nation with War Crimes?

Epiktitos wrote:

5. You dithered, moved to another thread, and posted unrelated nonsense.

What?

Epiktitos wrote:

So I ask you again: do you believe that the My Lai Massacre occurred, and serves as an example of a war crime committed by the US military, or do you not?

Yes! It is not a war crime that you can attribute to the nation. A solitary armed unit acting on its own accord is not a concerted campaign of malicious war crimes by that nation, when the unit's behavior was never sanctioned or supported since all were court martialed.

But this has very little to do with the original supposition of treating American Cypriots like shit because they hail from a "criminal" nation.