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IS ORACLE TURKISH?

Postby observer » Wed Mar 03, 2010 10:25 am

Is Oracle Turkish?

I ask because it seems to me that her comments and rants seem to have the aim of keeping TCs and GCs apart.

For GCs, she strengthens the prejudices of people already prejudiced by her one sided views of the past – A TC coup in December ’63! – Repeated references to the napalm bombing of ‘her’ village (neglecting the fact that GCs, and Greek soldiers illegally in Cyprus were attacking a TC village at the time with what would otherwise have been overwhelming force.

For TCs, it reinforces the views of those who do not want a GC as a neighbour (would anyone want Oracle as a neighbour?).

Who benefits from keeping TCs and GCs apart? Turkey.

I rest my case.
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Re: IS ORACLE TURKISH?

Postby Epiktitos » Wed Mar 03, 2010 10:34 am

observer wrote:I rest my case.

Oracle is as much a turk as you are a trial lawyer. Go back to your Matlock re-runs!
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Postby Tim Drayton » Wed Mar 03, 2010 10:46 am

Given the Turkish deep state's long history of involvement in acts of disinformation and provocation in Cyprus, it would come as no surprise to me if the person posting as Oracle was doing so from behind a desk at the Special War Department in Ankara.
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Postby Piratis » Wed Mar 03, 2010 11:22 am

Observer, I agree with you that playing the "blame game" and concentrating on events that happened half a century ago does not serve unity, peace and friendship. It only serves division among the people. This is obvious.

It is also obvious who benefits from keeping TCs and GCs apart. Turkey (as you correctly said) but also those TCs who are aligned with the Turkish policy of partition.

I, and most GCs (including, I believe, Orcale) would rather talk about how to solve the problems of today, to allow all Cypriots to enjoy their human and democratic rights and make Cyprus a normal EU country without racist discrimination and segregation.

But as they say "it takes two to tango". As we've seen, Turkey and the TCs aligned with the Turkish policy on Cyprus, do not want unity and friendship. They want division, because that is exactly what benefits them. So they come in here and they repeat their own distorted version of some events that happened half a century ago trying to excuse the racist discriminations, the segregation and the human rights violations that they want to impose on Cyprus.

What do you think our reaction should be to such people? Should we let them use the forum as a platform to pass their propaganda, and not remind them of the other side of the story that they choose to ignore?

Personally I think that the people who truly want unity will continue to want it regardless of what Oracle or any Oracle says. Even if we assumed that Oracle was some "evil" person (and I don't believe she is), it would be naive to believe that the 100% of GCs are perfect. Obviously there will always be some bad GCs in the same way there will be bad TCs, bad Turks, bad English etc. So in the same way you don't mind having TC neighbors, even thought there are bad TCs, you shouldn't mind if you have GC neighbors, even though there are some bad GCs as well.

Those racists that don't want GCs as neighbors (and whose views are reinforced by the views of Oracle) are those who do not want unity. They instead want partition and might only accept some form of "unity" (as divisive as possible) only because they can't achieve a complete partition.
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Re: IS ORACLE TURKISH?

Postby kurupetos » Wed Mar 03, 2010 12:09 pm

observer wrote:Is Oracle Turkish?

I ask because it seems to me that her comments and rants seem to have the aim of keeping TCs and GCs apart.

For GCs, she strengthens the prejudices of people already prejudiced by her one sided views of the past – A TC coup in December ’63! – Repeated references to the napalm bombing of ‘her’ village (neglecting the fact that GCs, and Greek soldiers illegally in Cyprus were attacking a TC village at the time with what would otherwise have been overwhelming force.

For TCs, it reinforces the views of those who do not want a GC as a neighbour (would anyone want Oracle as a neighbour?).

Who benefits from keeping TCs and GCs apart? Turkey.

I rest my case.


She is neither GC or TC. She is british. :wink:
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Postby paliometoxo » Wed Mar 03, 2010 12:46 pm

really?

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Re: IS ORACLE TURKISH?

Postby Get Real! » Wed Mar 03, 2010 12:46 pm

observer wrote:Is Oracle Turkish?

She’s a crossbreed between a Slavic-Jewish family and a Magyar-Turkic family so in laymen’s terms she’s what I’d call an indigenous European Gypsy! 8)
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Postby denizaksulu » Wed Mar 03, 2010 1:01 pm

:shock: :shock: I am sworn to secrecy. :lol: :lol:

I'd love to have Oracle as my neighbor, as long as her blue make-up'ed, haggis eating, whisky imbibing hubby doesn't mind. :lol:
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Re: IS ORACLE TURKISH?

Postby Get Real! » Wed Mar 03, 2010 1:13 pm

Get Real! wrote:
observer wrote:Is Oracle Turkish?

She’s a crossbreed between a Slavic-Jewish family and a Magyar-Turkic family so in laymen’s terms she’s what I’d call an indigenous European Gypsy! 8)

I forgot to mention that she once also confided that she has some Mongol-mongrels in the bloodline… not too many though! :?
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