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[Khan]

Turkey wants to make sure the island is never used as a base from which to attack it. Though that kind of thinking may be outdated you have to remember this is a country that was occupied from all corners less than a century ago.

For us Turkish Cypriots, we want guarantees as a last resort, as a detterent should the Greeks of Cyprus, or fanatics among them, feel the urge to use their numerical superiority against us.

The point about Russia and China is they have nothing to gain by being guarantors for Greek Cypriots, the island is of little strategic value to them and they would never use any of their resources to protect something which does not benefit them in some way.

[Malapapa]

Turkey wants to make sure the island is never used as a base from which to attack it. Though that kind of thinking may be outdated you have to remember this is a country that was occupied from all corners less than a century ago.

For us Turkish Cypriots, we want guarantees as a last resort, as a detterent should the Greeks of Cyprus, or fanatics among them, feel the urge to use their numerical superiority against us.

The point about Russia and China is they have nothing to gain by being guarantors for Greek Cypriots, the island is of little strategic value to them and they would never use any of their resources to protect something which does not benefit them in some way.

I appreciate this, which is why I have suggested that "protection money" might need to be paid for Russia's guarantee; as a last resort, as a deterrent should the Turks of Turkey and their military, or fanatics among them, feel the urge to use their numerical superiority against Cyprus.

[wyoming cowboy]

There is no way the Republic of Cyprus will ever agree again to have Turkey as a guarantee power, the coming instability in Turkey coupled with their past actions makes it an impossibility.....If there is a democracy with a social respect of the rule of law and civil rights, a united Cyprus will not need any guarantors, and it would be in the self interest of both communities to keep the peace, we arent living in the 50's or 60's with a word from the motherland energized the cypriot villager...

[Malapapa]

It's what everyone keeps trying to tell them. But if they insist on having Turkey intervene in Cyprus as a deterrent, free Cypriots should insist on having Russia intervene in Turkey, as a commensurate deterrent in turn.

[Viewpoint]

It's what everyone keeps trying to tell them. But if they insist on having Turkey intervene in Cyprus as a deterrent, free Cypriots should insist on having Russia intervene in Turkey, as a commensurate deterrent in turn.

You still flogging that dead horse Mala, you are dreaming ifyou think they will help you in anyway, firstly the Russians would tell you to go to hell as they would not waste expensive resourse on your sorry hides and secondly Turkey does not have to agree....this island needs to be protected from people like you who should think they can start problems once again to take control of the whole island, if you want Russia to intervene here on the island should we do anything wrong I am all for it but if you are stupid enough and obviously you are that Russia will go to war with Turkey just to shve a few Gcs then you are totally up the swanny without a paddle.

[Malapapa]

You still flogging that dead horse Mala, you are dreaming ifyou think they will help you in anyway, firstly the Russians would tell you to go to hell as they would not waste expensive resourse on your sorry hides

We wouldn't expect them to provide this guarantee for free.

and secondly Turkey does not have to agree....

They are right to fear Russia; as Cypriots are right to fear Turkey.

[B25]

You still flogging that dead horse Mala, you are dreaming ifyou think they will help you in anyway, firstly the Russians would tell you to go to hell as they would not waste expensive resourse on your sorry hides

We wouldn't expect them to provide this guarantee for free.

We could just offer them a plot in the EEZ for the oil and for an additional one for protection of the rest. This way the MF turks would probably steer clear and leave us in peace.

Come on Russia, your country needs you !

[CopperLine]

I object to guarantors in principle, but what I don't get is why Russia, China or almost any other state would want to act as guarantor. After all the guarantor would only be seriously called on when force was needed and how would these supposed guarantors justify to their own militaries and their own citizens the risking of their soldiers lives and the paying of taxes to support this or that side of Cyprus ? Unless of course those states had ulterior motives and interests - a bit like, errr.....Britain, Turkey and Greece ..... -

[Get Real!]

This talk about Russia becoming a guarantor or getting embroiled in the CypProb is dumb and a total waste of time debating!

[Malapapa]

This talk about Russia becoming a guarantor or getting embroiled in the CypProb is dumb and a total waste of time debating!

No more dumb than insisting on having Turkey as a guarantor...