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[georgios100]

Why do you GCs find it difficult to understand that you are not trusted? Thats why guarantees are necessary.

Why do you Cyprus Turks find it difficult to understand that Turkey is not trusted? That's why Russia's guarantee, and intervention rights in Turkey, are necessary.

And who is going to guarantee that Russia will not misuse her guarantee rights in Turkey...

Hi Bir,

I am off the topic with Russia as a guarantor...

Since you are one of the better TC posters on CF, I would like to ask you this:

Why the TCs don't trust the EU to guarantee the peace in Cyprus via a special force to be assign on the island comprised of several EU members?

Please try to provide me a reasonable explanation. The way that I see it, Cyprus is European land now, so who else can do a better job than the Europeans themselves, protecting their own land? I don't think an EU force will be bias against either community.

Georgios100

[boulio]

thats what ive been saaing as well georgios and let turkey as well be part of that force with cypriot involvment as well.

[wyoming cowboy]

why not just have Nato be the guarantor of Cyprus....

[Paphitis]

why not just have Nato be the guarantor of Cyprus....

Interesting proposal. I believe I also mentioned the prospect of NATO being a Guarantor to Cyprus. I also mentioned the EU many times.

However, NATO can only be a Guarantor if Cyprus becomes a full member of NATO. Otherwise, we are leaving ourselves open to the possibility of NATO abusing its Guarantor obligations to the RoC, since Turkey is part of that alliance. We do have some important allies within NATO. Greece and France should provide us with some peace of mind, but I would be cautious and insist on RoC joining NATO before we hand them the responsibility of safeguarding the RoC. Being a member of NATO should give us adequate protection from possible outside attack, and Turkey would be reluctant to intervene in Cyprus under any circumstances as it is reluctant to attack Greece, primarily due to American/NATO influence and pressure.

Your proposal has potential, but only if we are full members of the same alliance. Otherwise, it should be the EU.

[Malapapa]

Why do you GCs find it difficult to understand that you are not trusted? Thats why guarantees are necessary.

Why do you Cyprus Turks find it difficult to understand that Turkey is not trusted? That's why Russia's guarantee, and intervention rights in Turkey, are necessary.

And who is going to guarantee that Russia will not misuse her guarantee rights in Turkey...

This won't happen, unless Turkey misuses her guarantee rights in Cyprus...

[YFred]

why not just have Nato be the guarantor of Cyprus....

Why the hell Nato? Nato is the one that cause the troubles in the first place, trying to bring Cyprus into Nato via the back door, by engineering the coup and getting Turkey to intervene.
So we are going to have the wolf looking after the flock are we? Like hell.
UN is incapable and Nato is unacceptable.
It has to be Guarantee by Turkey till TCs are confident to release her from her duties and then it is demilitarisation. That's the only way forward.
GR has band of reprobates have to be handcuffed from that point onwards too.
However Oracle will only need her mouth taped.

[B25]

Freddy, thanks for this, it is EXACTLY as we see Turkey

So we are going to have the wolf looking after the flock are we? Like hell.

You hit the nail on the head there son and scored an own goal, cheers.

I knew you would come through old chap, what?

[YFred]

Freddy, thanks for this, it is EXACTLY as we see Turkey

So we are going to have the wolf looking after the flock are we? Like hell.

You hit the nail on the head there son and scored an own goal, cheers.

I knew you would come through old chap, what?

You still don't get, you can have anybody you like, but can you really have a say who we have? Hell you can, sunshine. What?
It seems the GCs are turning into "Sleeping with the enemy" characters. Control freaks, what?
Loosen up a little, lighten up a bit more, you'll find there is more to life then trying to control the TCs.

[Epiktitos]

GR has band of reprobates have to be handcuffed from that point onwards too.
However Oracle will only need her mouth taped.

Neither GR nor Oracle have contributed to this thread...what is lacking from your life that makes you such an insecure and miserable troll?

[BirKibrisli]

Why do you GCs find it difficult to understand that you are not trusted? Thats why guarantees are necessary.

Why do you Cyprus Turks find it difficult to understand that Turkey is not trusted? That's why Russia's guarantee, and intervention rights in Turkey, are necessary.

And who is going to guarantee that Russia will not misuse her guarantee rights in Turkey...

Hi Bir,

I am off the topic with Russia as a guarantor...

Since you are one of the better TC posters on CF, I would like to ask you this:

Why the TCs don't trust the EU to guarantee the peace in Cyprus via a special force to be assign on the island comprised of several EU members?

Please try to provide me a reasonable explanation. The way that I see it, Cyprus is European land now, so who else can do a better job than the Europeans themselves, protecting their own land? I don't think an EU force will be bias against either community.

Georgios100

Georgio,the answer lies in the recent past...During the dark years between 63-74 the TCs were essentially left to survive whichever way they could...Not even Turkey came to their aid physically...Then in 1974 when the coup happened and the murdering thug Sampson was declared President,the TCs were afraid of the worst...They were sure that had Sampson the time to consolidate his rule,the TCs would be his next target,and he would not be taking any prisoners...Ecevit,the Turkish PM at the time, flew to England and tried to convince them they should have a joint Turkish-English intervention to restore the independence and sovereignty of the RoC...The Brits didn't want to have anything to do with it...Hence the unilateral Turkish action followed...Everything that happened since 1974(non-recognition by the UN,the isolation and the embargoes etc) reinforced the TC belief that they have only ONE friend in this world and that is Turkey...That is why they will not trust anybody else with their lives...