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[wyoming cowboy]

YFred the Tc colluded with the enemy in 55, you became their stooges against the Gc they gave your people power in the police stations and the courts, you betrayed, in 74 the Turk army arrives your people were the guides to these invaders and hail them as heros after they wiped out 10,000 Gc and ethnically cleansed 200,000, now from the sweat of our backs you complain that you were embargoed and that the Gc owe you half the island and equal political rights on the island, which one day you will betray again.....YFred you must be smoking some real good Turk hashish to come up with a story like that

The moment You use TC colluded is the moment we stop being friends. 2500 people joined the British Police and you accuse 150000 TC of collusion. There really is no hope for you I am afraid. You can take your roc and I think you know exactly what to do with it.
It was not your family GC national guard were about to wipe out. Thank god they arrived is all I can say. When they consider it next time, there will be more of the same.
Yiiiiii Haaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa. dig digidig digidig digidig.

And you lump all Gc together when 200 EOKA b were being directed by the junta in Greece to destroy the republic...You say all Gc wanted Eoka B to succeed which is extremely false. You need to get your thoughts together man, you sound worse then me on this forum sometimes....

[YFred]

YFred the Tc colluded with the enemy in 55, you became their stooges against the Gc they gave your people power in the police stations and the courts, you betrayed, in 74 the Turk army arrives your people were the guides to these invaders and hail them as heros after they wiped out 10,000 Gc and ethnically cleansed 200,000, now from the sweat of our backs you complain that you were embargoed and that the Gc owe you half the island and equal political rights on the island, which one day you will betray again.....YFred you must be smoking some real good Turk hashish to come up with a story like that

The moment You use TC colluded is the moment we stop being friends. 2500 people joined the British Police and you accuse 150000 TC of collusion. There really is no hope for you I am afraid. You can take your roc and I think you know exactly what to do with it.
It was not your family GC national guard were about to wipe out. Thank god they arrived is all I can say. When they consider it next time, there will be more of the same.
Yiiiiii Haaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa. dig digidig digidig digidig.

And you lump all Gc together when 200 EOKA b were being directed by the junta in Greece to destroy the republic...You say all Gc wanted Eoka B to succeed which is extremely false. You need to get your thoughts together man, you sound worse then me on this forum sometimes....

It was not 200 eoka b bastards that lined up the tanks, it was the roc with GC NG. Take that as you wish. I can never sound as bad as you.

[wyoming cowboy]

there were no more then 200 at the presidential palace when they executed the coup, the rest of the Gc army was being directed to limassol and paphos so that your collaborators the Turk army could land their troops safely in Kyrenia..

[DT.]

YFRED be bold enough and answer the question on how a true federation with two constituent states is capitulation on the part of the Tc?

Your trick was to camaflouge the dangers TCs would face if they were foolish enough to adopt Kikapus capitulation plan. So basically you tried to sell us out.

VP, Kickapu is more decent then that. He was not selling us, he was giving us away. What was his reccomendation? 5% for the TRNC? Yeah right.

Oh dear ol dear. We got the classic case of Blind leading the Blind here.!

Hi seeeeeeeeeee, said the blind man, What?

It depends on the rules of the federation and the power distribution between the two levels of government. If the Higher level is allowed to dominate the lover level, then capitulation is a real possibility. If the two states are allowed to govern themselves without interference from the other, then there is no danger. But the real danger lies not in the governments but the economic domination by the GC as they have had a free hand for the past 47 years and TC economy has been suffocated. To put it simply you cannot put a dog and a lamb in a cage and expect the lamb to survive unless the fence between them is strong enough to resist the dog.
All the effort put in by the roc to suffocate the TRNC in the last 47 years has a price and will cost till the TRNC economy recovers.
Unfortunately the GCs who have been lead down that blind alley will pay the prcice of that one. You got the gain, now you will suffer the pain.

So you want to exact revenge on the Gc for working hard rebuilding their lives after the ethnic cleansing committed by Turkey and you teh TC want to be rewarded for betraying the ROC and colluding with the invader of your country.....That aint gonna happen, give it up and go hide behind the skirt of Turkey, because the Gc boggey man is gonna get ya....The deeper seated problem with you Tc is your inferiority complex

Thats what happens mate, when 180,000 innocent people are thrown out of their homes by 40,000 turkish troops and rebuild their lives from nothing, they are forced to pay the invader because he managed to create a deficit after he sold off all your property.

When you get home tonight, check under your pillow, the tooth fairy has left you a Sheeprus pound too. We can all believe in the fairy stories if we like. 47 years of economic suffocation, what?

So after 1000's were killed by the turkish army and 180,000 people were kicked out of their properties and left with nothing sleeping in tents...what exactly would you have the GC's do? Make brochures to hand out at Larnaca airport titled...."visit the occupied areas!! We heard our properties look really good these days!!"

[YFred]

YFRED be bold enough and answer the question on how a true federation with two constituent states is capitulation on the part of the Tc?

Your trick was to camaflouge the dangers TCs would face if they were foolish enough to adopt Kikapus capitulation plan. So basically you tried to sell us out.

VP, Kickapu is more decent then that. He was not selling us, he was giving us away. What was his reccomendation? 5% for the TRNC? Yeah right.

Oh dear ol dear. We got the classic case of Blind leading the Blind here.!

Hi seeeeeeeeeee, said the blind man, What?

It depends on the rules of the federation and the power distribution between the two levels of government. If the Higher level is allowed to dominate the lover level, then capitulation is a real possibility. If the two states are allowed to govern themselves without interference from the other, then there is no danger. But the real danger lies not in the governments but the economic domination by the GC as they have had a free hand for the past 47 years and TC economy has been suffocated. To put it simply you cannot put a dog and a lamb in a cage and expect the lamb to survive unless the fence between them is strong enough to resist the dog.
All the effort put in by the roc to suffocate the TRNC in the last 47 years has a price and will cost till the TRNC economy recovers.
Unfortunately the GCs who have been lead down that blind alley will pay the prcice of that one. You got the gain, now you will suffer the pain.

So you want to exact revenge on the Gc for working hard rebuilding their lives after the ethnic cleansing committed by Turkey and you teh TC want to be rewarded for betraying the ROC and colluding with the invader of your country.....That aint gonna happen, give it up and go hide behind the skirt of Turkey, because the Gc boggey man is gonna get ya....The deeper seated problem with you Tc is your inferiority complex

Thats what happens mate, when 180,000 innocent people are thrown out of their homes by 40,000 turkish troops and rebuild their lives from nothing, they are forced to pay the invader because he managed to create a deficit after he sold off all your property.

When you get home tonight, check under your pillow, the tooth fairy has left you a Sheeprus pound too. We can all believe in the fairy stories if we like. 47 years of economic suffocation, what?

So after 1000's were killed by the turkish army and 180,000 people were kicked out of their properties and left with nothing sleeping in tents...what exactly would you have the GC's do? Make brochures to hand out at Larnaca airport titled...."visit the occupied areas!! We heard our properties look really good these days!!"

You don't mean that dreaded airport built on stolen TC land, surely, what?

But of course you weren't there to see the TCs suffer the same fate to same proportions in 63, were you boy?

[DT.]

YFRED be bold enough and answer the question on how a true federation with two constituent states is capitulation on the part of the Tc?

Your trick was to camaflouge the dangers TCs would face if they were foolish enough to adopt Kikapus capitulation plan. So basically you tried to sell us out.

VP, Kickapu is more decent then that. He was not selling us, he was giving us away. What was his reccomendation? 5% for the TRNC? Yeah right.

Oh dear ol dear. We got the classic case of Blind leading the Blind here.!

Hi seeeeeeeeeee, said the blind man, What?

It depends on the rules of the federation and the power distribution between the two levels of government. If the Higher level is allowed to dominate the lover level, then capitulation is a real possibility. If the two states are allowed to govern themselves without interference from the other, then there is no danger. But the real danger lies not in the governments but the economic domination by the GC as they have had a free hand for the past 47 years and TC economy has been suffocated. To put it simply you cannot put a dog and a lamb in a cage and expect the lamb to survive unless the fence between them is strong enough to resist the dog.
All the effort put in by the roc to suffocate the TRNC in the last 47 years has a price and will cost till the TRNC economy recovers.
Unfortunately the GCs who have been lead down that blind alley will pay the prcice of that one. You got the gain, now you will suffer the pain.

So you want to exact revenge on the Gc for working hard rebuilding their lives after the ethnic cleansing committed by Turkey and you teh TC want to be rewarded for betraying the ROC and colluding with the invader of your country.....That aint gonna happen, give it up and go hide behind the skirt of Turkey, because the Gc boggey man is gonna get ya....The deeper seated problem with you Tc is your inferiority complex

Thats what happens mate, when 180,000 innocent people are thrown out of their homes by 40,000 turkish troops and rebuild their lives from nothing, they are forced to pay the invader because he managed to create a deficit after he sold off all your property.

When you get home tonight, check under your pillow, the tooth fairy has left you a Sheeprus pound too. We can all believe in the fairy stories if we like. 47 years of economic suffocation, what?

So after 1000's were killed by the turkish army and 180,000 people were kicked out of their properties and left with nothing sleeping in tents...what exactly would you have the GC's do? Make brochures to hand out at Larnaca airport titled...."visit the occupied areas!! We heard our properties look really good these days!!"

You don't mean that dreaded airport built on stolen TC land, surely, what?

But of course you weren't there to see the TCs suffer the same fate to same proportions in 63, were you boy?

After your troops murdered UN and GC troops trying to take the NIcosia airport and finally incapacitating it...we should have built the new airport on Denktash's wife's arse.

[YFred]

YFRED be bold enough and answer the question on how a true federation with two constituent states is capitulation on the part of the Tc?

Your trick was to camaflouge the dangers TCs would face if they were foolish enough to adopt Kikapus capitulation plan. So basically you tried to sell us out.

VP, Kickapu is more decent then that. He was not selling us, he was giving us away. What was his reccomendation? 5% for the TRNC? Yeah right.

Oh dear ol dear. We got the classic case of Blind leading the Blind here.!

Hi seeeeeeeeeee, said the blind man, What?

It depends on the rules of the federation and the power distribution between the two levels of government. If the Higher level is allowed to dominate the lover level, then capitulation is a real possibility. If the two states are allowed to govern themselves without interference from the other, then there is no danger. But the real danger lies not in the governments but the economic domination by the GC as they have had a free hand for the past 47 years and TC economy has been suffocated. To put it simply you cannot put a dog and a lamb in a cage and expect the lamb to survive unless the fence between them is strong enough to resist the dog.
All the effort put in by the roc to suffocate the TRNC in the last 47 years has a price and will cost till the TRNC economy recovers.
Unfortunately the GCs who have been lead down that blind alley will pay the prcice of that one. You got the gain, now you will suffer the pain.

So you want to exact revenge on the Gc for working hard rebuilding their lives after the ethnic cleansing committed by Turkey and you teh TC want to be rewarded for betraying the ROC and colluding with the invader of your country.....That aint gonna happen, give it up and go hide behind the skirt of Turkey, because the Gc boggey man is gonna get ya....The deeper seated problem with you Tc is your inferiority complex

Thats what happens mate, when 180,000 innocent people are thrown out of their homes by 40,000 turkish troops and rebuild their lives from nothing, they are forced to pay the invader because he managed to create a deficit after he sold off all your property.

When you get home tonight, check under your pillow, the tooth fairy has left you a Sheeprus pound too. We can all believe in the fairy stories if we like. 47 years of economic suffocation, what?

So after 1000's were killed by the turkish army and 180,000 people were kicked out of their properties and left with nothing sleeping in tents...what exactly would you have the GC's do? Make brochures to hand out at Larnaca airport titled...."visit the occupied areas!! We heard our properties look really good these days!!"

You don't mean that dreaded airport built on stolen TC land, surely, what?

But of course you weren't there to see the TCs suffer the same fate to same proportions in 63, were you boy?

After your troops murdered UN and GC troops trying to take the NIcosia airport and finally incapacitating it...we should have built the new airport on Denktash's wife's arse.

Avoiding the question is not the same as answering it. Were you there in 63 when 6 villages were expelled from their homes and forced into refugee camps only to face the tanks pointing at them in 74. Really you've got to do better than that this master debating does no good to you forum cred, what?

[wyoming cowboy]

How many questions have you avoided Yfred, the past is the past both suffered ....The end The next page of Cyprus is whether or not both communities will be able to form a BBF and live and prosper on Cyprus.....again What about a Federal Republic dont you agree with? Dont give me the typical baloney if one side can overpower the other because that is not possible in a Federal State.....Economically with certain mechanisms of 5 years duration should be enough to bring the standard of living up to par with the GC state.......What are your thoughts?

[YFred]

How many questions have you avoided Yfred, the past is the past both suffered ....The end The next page of Cyprus is whether or not both communities will be able to form a BBF and live and prosper on Cyprus.....again What about a Federal Republic dont you agree with? Dont give me the typical baloney if one side can overpower the other because that is not possible in a Federal State.....Economically with certain mechanisms of 5 years duration should be enough to bring the standard of living up to par with the GC state.......What are your thoughts?

If you can do that in 5 years, I'll go along with you but I think it will be more like 25 years. In the mean time suffocation continues. What shall we talk about next? How about continual damage the suffocation does to the TCs as we talk? Shall we tackle that one. Solve that one and TCs may begin to warm up to you.

[boulio]

If you can do that in 5 years, I'll go along with you but I think it will be more like 25 years. In the mean time suffocation continues. What shall we talk about next? How about continual damage the suffocation does to the TCs as we talk? Shall we tackle that one. Solve that one and TCs may begin to warm up to you.

be more truthful and pragmatic in negotiations and the suffacation can stop for everyone.