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[Viewpoint]

Hes joking you MF.

[BirKibrisli]

Hes joking you MF.

Come on ,Viewpoint...Don't spoil B25's day...In his mind that is how things are...He must be right,or else he is a mental case...Which is more likely would you say???

[wyoming cowboy]

YFred...You are one stubborn son of a gun...Why don't you just see the world as some of our GC compatriots see it on this Forum...It will make their life so much easier...Now repeat after me...Enosis was good....Taksim was bad...1960 agreements were bad,so bad even the TCs run away from it...Although the GCs were begging for them to come back...Eoka was good,TMT bad...The Turkish Cypriots were afraid of the TMT not EOKA...They left their villages and huddled into enclaves for 11 years because TMT told them to do so...Turkey is bad,big bad wolf...She has territorial ambitions...She likes waking up on sunny summer days and going to invade helpless neighbouring countries...Turkey likes ethnic cleansing...Look they have even cleansed the TCs of their Cypriotness...
The isolations and the embargoes do not exist...If they do they are selfimposed...Or imposed by Turkey...Everything you think you know or believe is wrong...Everything some of our GC compatriots tell us here is right...When will you see the light...???You are one stubborn son-of-a-gun...You are making everybody's life impossible...Come to your senses now...You know you want to...

If this guy YFred could answer some questions on what he thinks a Federal bicommunal solution would be, and what he is afraid of or even if he knows what a Federal state is?

[YFred]

YFred...You are one stubborn son of a gun...Why don't you just see the world as some of our GC compatriots see it on this Forum...It will make their life so much easier...Now repeat after me...Enosis was good....Taksim was bad...1960 agreements were bad,so bad even the TCs run away from it...Although the GCs were begging for them to come back...Eoka was good,TMT bad...The Turkish Cypriots were afraid of the TMT not EOKA...They left their villages and huddled into enclaves for 11 years because TMT told them to do so...Turkey is bad,big bad wolf...She has territorial ambitions...She likes waking up on sunny summer days and going to invade helpless neighbouring countries...Turkey likes ethnic cleansing...Look they have even cleansed the TCs of their Cypriotness...
The isolations and the embargoes do not exist...If they do they are selfimposed...Or imposed by Turkey...Everything you think you know or believe is wrong...Everything some of our GC compatriots tell us here is right...When will you see the light...???You are one stubborn son-of-a-gun...You are making everybody's life impossible...Come to your senses now...You know you want to...

If this guy YFred could answer some questions on what he thinks a Federal bicommunal solution would be, and what he is afraid of or even if he knows what a Federal state is?

Bir, I have just seen the light. Just realised that I am a mirage of myself only existing in my mind, only visible to TCs and blinding to my GC friends. I must like enosis and not upset my GC friends on the forum digitally or virtually.
I must be good (GC), and I must not be bad (TC).

[BirKibrisli]

YFred...You are one stubborn son of a gun...Why don't you just see the world as some of our GC compatriots see it on this Forum...It will make their life so much easier...Now repeat after me...Enosis was good....Taksim was bad...1960 agreements were bad,so bad even the TCs run away from it...Although the GCs were begging for them to come back...Eoka was good,TMT bad...The Turkish Cypriots were afraid of the TMT not EOKA...They left their villages and huddled into enclaves for 11 years because TMT told them to do so...Turkey is bad,big bad wolf...She has territorial ambitions...She likes waking up on sunny summer days and going to invade helpless neighbouring countries...Turkey likes ethnic cleansing...Look they have even cleansed the TCs of their Cypriotness...
The isolations and the embargoes do not exist...If they do they are selfimposed...Or imposed by Turkey...Everything you think you know or believe is wrong...Everything some of our GC compatriots tell us here is right...When will you see the light...???You are one stubborn son-of-a-gun...You are making everybody's life impossible...Come to your senses now...You know you want to...

If this guy YFred could answer some questions on what he thinks a Federal bicommunal solution would be, and what he is afraid of or even if he knows what a Federal state is?

Bir, I have just seen the light. Just realised that I am a mirage of myself only existing in my mind, only visible to TCs and blinding to my GC friends. I must like enosis and not upset my GC friends on the forum digitally or virtually.
I must be good (GC), and I must not be bad (TC).

That's the good man!I knew I could talk you around...
Now keep it up and agree to everything our GC compatriots say...
Especially with Piratis,GR and Oracle...They are right after all...We were not invited to invade in 1571...We will never be forgiven for that...If the Ottomans had just waited for an invitation...with a green-bottomed candle...Know what I mean???

[wyoming cowboy]

YFRED be bold enough and answer the question on how a true federation with two constituent states is capitulation on the part of the Tc?

Your trick was to camaflouge the dangers TCs would face if they were foolish enough to adopt Kikapus capitulation plan. So basically you tried to sell us out.

VP, Kickapu is more decent then that. He was not selling us, he was giving us away. What was his reccomendation? 5% for the TRNC? Yeah right.

Oh dear ol dear. We got the classic case of Blind leading the Blind here.!

Hi seeeeeeeeeee, said the blind man, What?

It depends on the rules of the federation and the power distribution between the two levels of government. If the Higher level is allowed to dominate the lover level, then capitulation is a real possibility. If the two states are allowed to govern themselves without interference from the other, then there is no danger. But the real danger lies not in the governments but the economic domination by the GC as they have had a free hand for the past 47 years and TC economy has been suffocated. To put it simply you cannot put a dog and a lamb in a cage and expect the lamb to survive unless the fence between them is strong enough to resist the dog.
All the effort put in by the roc to suffocate the TRNC in the last 47 years has a price and will cost till the TRNC economy recovers.
Unfortunately the GCs who have been lead down that blind alley will pay the prcice of that one. You got the gain, now you will suffer the pain.

So you want to exact revenge on the Gc for working hard rebuilding their lives after the ethnic cleansing committed by Turkey and you teh TC want to be rewarded for betraying the ROC and colluding with the invader of your country.....That aint gonna happen, give it up and go hide behind the skirt of Turkey, because the Gc boggey man is gonna get ya....The deeper seated problem with you Tc is your inferiority complex

[DT.]

YFRED be bold enough and answer the question on how a true federation with two constituent states is capitulation on the part of the Tc?

Your trick was to camaflouge the dangers TCs would face if they were foolish enough to adopt Kikapus capitulation plan. So basically you tried to sell us out.

VP, Kickapu is more decent then that. He was not selling us, he was giving us away. What was his reccomendation? 5% for the TRNC? Yeah right.

Oh dear ol dear. We got the classic case of Blind leading the Blind here.!

Hi seeeeeeeeeee, said the blind man, What?

It depends on the rules of the federation and the power distribution between the two levels of government. If the Higher level is allowed to dominate the lover level, then capitulation is a real possibility. If the two states are allowed to govern themselves without interference from the other, then there is no danger. But the real danger lies not in the governments but the economic domination by the GC as they have had a free hand for the past 47 years and TC economy has been suffocated. To put it simply you cannot put a dog and a lamb in a cage and expect the lamb to survive unless the fence between them is strong enough to resist the dog.
All the effort put in by the roc to suffocate the TRNC in the last 47 years has a price and will cost till the TRNC economy recovers.
Unfortunately the GCs who have been lead down that blind alley will pay the prcice of that one. You got the gain, now you will suffer the pain.

So you want to exact revenge on the Gc for working hard rebuilding their lives after the ethnic cleansing committed by Turkey and you teh TC want to be rewarded for betraying the ROC and colluding with the invader of your country.....That aint gonna happen, give it up and go hide behind the skirt of Turkey, because the Gc boggey man is gonna get ya....The deeper seated problem with you Tc is your inferiority complex

Thats what happens mate, when 180,000 innocent people are thrown out of their homes by 40,000 turkish troops and rebuild their lives from nothing, they are forced to pay the invader because he managed to create a deficit after he sold off all your property.

[YFred]

YFRED be bold enough and answer the question on how a true federation with two constituent states is capitulation on the part of the Tc?

Your trick was to camaflouge the dangers TCs would face if they were foolish enough to adopt Kikapus capitulation plan. So basically you tried to sell us out.

VP, Kickapu is more decent then that. He was not selling us, he was giving us away. What was his reccomendation? 5% for the TRNC? Yeah right.

Oh dear ol dear. We got the classic case of Blind leading the Blind here.!

Hi seeeeeeeeeee, said the blind man, What?

It depends on the rules of the federation and the power distribution between the two levels of government. If the Higher level is allowed to dominate the lover level, then capitulation is a real possibility. If the two states are allowed to govern themselves without interference from the other, then there is no danger. But the real danger lies not in the governments but the economic domination by the GC as they have had a free hand for the past 47 years and TC economy has been suffocated. To put it simply you cannot put a dog and a lamb in a cage and expect the lamb to survive unless the fence between them is strong enough to resist the dog.
All the effort put in by the roc to suffocate the TRNC in the last 47 years has a price and will cost till the TRNC economy recovers.
Unfortunately the GCs who have been lead down that blind alley will pay the prcice of that one. You got the gain, now you will suffer the pain.

So you want to exact revenge on the Gc for working hard rebuilding their lives after the ethnic cleansing committed by Turkey and you teh TC want to be rewarded for betraying the ROC and colluding with the invader of your country.....That aint gonna happen, give it up and go hide behind the skirt of Turkey, because the Gc boggey man is gonna get ya....The deeper seated problem with you Tc is your inferiority complex

Thats what happens mate, when 180,000 innocent people are thrown out of their homes by 40,000 turkish troops and rebuild their lives from nothing, they are forced to pay the invader because he managed to create a deficit after he sold off all your property.

When you get home tonight, check under your pillow, the tooth fairy has left you a Sheeprus pound too. We can all believe in the fairy stories if we like. 47 years of economic suffocation, what?

[wyoming cowboy]

YFred the Tc colluded with the enemy in 55, you became their stooges against the Gc they gave your people power in the police stations and the courts, you betrayed, in 74 the Turk army arrives your people were the guides to these invaders and hail them as heros after they wiped out 10,000 Gc and ethnically cleansed 200,000, now from the sweat of our backs you complain that you were embargoed and that the Gc owe you half the island and equal political rights on the island, which one day you will betray again.....YFred you must be smoking some real good Turk hashish to come up with a story like that

[YFred]

YFred the Tc colluded with the enemy in 55, you became their stooges against the Gc they gave your people power in the police stations and the courts, you betrayed, in 74 the Turk army arrives your people were the guides to these invaders and hail them as heros after they wiped out 10,000 Gc and ethnically cleansed 200,000, now from the sweat of our backs you complain that you were embargoed and that the Gc owe you half the island and equal political rights on the island, which one day you will betray again.....YFred you must be smoking some real good Turk hashish to come up with a story like that

The moment You use TC colluded is the moment we stop being friends. 2500 people joined the British Police and you accuse 150000 TC of collusion. There really is no hope for you I am afraid. You can take your roc and I think you know exactly what to do with it.
It was not your family GC national guard were about to wipe out. Thank god they arrived is all I can say. When they consider it next time, there will be more of the same.
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