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[Get Real!]

This talk about Russia becoming a guarantor or getting embroiled in the CypProb is dumb and a total waste of time debating!

No more dumb than insisting on having Turkey as a guarantor...

Do you honestly think that a BBF/BBC will ever come about and you're worrying about guarantors?

[Malapapa]

This talk about Russia becoming a guarantor or getting embroiled in the CypProb is dumb and a total waste of time debating!

No more dumb than insisting on having Turkey as a guarantor...

Do you honestly think that a BBF/BBC will ever come about and you're worrying about guarantors?

No. And the dumb guarantor issue is certainly one deal breaker.

[Byron]

To accept any form of guarantee from anycountry implies that there is no real wish for unity in Cyprus. 36 years of division tells the truth.

[B25]

To accept any form of guarantee from anycountry implies that there is no real wish for unity in Cyprus. 36 years of division tells the truth.

Agreed! Please tell that to the MF Turks who are insisting on having the invader guarantee us. You might as well put the fox to guard the chickens FFS.

[Viewpoint]

guAratees are a deterrant and will ensure both sides to the agreement.

[kurupetos]

guAratees are a deterrant and will ensure both sides to the agreement.

Been there, seen that, done that. No, thanks.

[Kikapu]

guAratees are a deterrant and will ensure both sides to the agreement.

Unfortunately, Turkey has a bad record of being a guarantor, therefore she can't be trusted to do the right thing. The same goes to Greece and Britain. Using the past experience of guarantors, say Turkey's for instance, it will embolden the fascists and the NeoPartitionists from the north to cause trouble just to invite Turkey to come and divide the island again, except this time, the state lines would have been already drawn in a BBF agreement, and a member of the EU, the north can then declare to become an independent state. So in short, guarantorship is not a deterrent, but an invitation to divide the island, trouble caused by the Fascist NeoPartitionist. That is the reason why the GCs will not agree to Turkeys guardianship, because Turkey was supposed to be a guarantor to all Cypriots, but turns out, they only been a guarantor to occupying north of the island in the name of the TCs, or more commonly known today as the "Turks of Cyprus". Sorry VP, but you are not going to convince the GCs to accept Turkey after all she done in Cyprus, and all that she did not do, that she should have done. All the Fascist NeoPartitionists can't wait to have the GCs agree for Turkey to be a guarantor so that they can go and blow up their own kids schools and put the blame on the Gcs, just to invite Turkey to come in. That game has already been played and everyone can see right through the Fascist NeoPartitionist.

[GreekForumer]

guAratees are a deterrant and will ensure both sides to the agreement.

We are all quite happy for TCs to have a guarantor but we insist TCs choose a guarantor that does not have a history of Genocide against Christians.

[DTA]

guAratees are a deterrant and will ensure both sides to the agreement.

Unfortunately, Turkey has a bad record of being a guarantor, therefore she can't be trusted to do the right thing. The same goes to Greece and Britain. Using the past experience of guarantors, say Turkey's for instance, it will embolden the fascists and the NeoPartitionists from the north to cause trouble just to invite Turkey to come and divide the island again, except this time, the state lines would have been already drawn in a BBF agreement, and a member of the EU, the north can then declare to become an independent state. So in short, guarantorship is not a deterrent, but an invitation to divide the island, trouble caused by the Fascist NeoPartitionist. That is the reason why the GCs will not agree to Turkeys guardianship, because Turkey was supposed to be a guarantor to all Cypriots, but turns out, they only been a guarantor to occupying north of the island in the name of the TCs, or more commonly known today as the "Turks of Cyprus". Sorry VP, but you are not going to convince the GCs to accept Turkey after all she done in Cyprus, and all that she did not do, that she should have done. All the Fascist NeoPartitionists can't wait to have the GCs agree for Turkey to be a guarantor so that they can go and blow up their own kids schools and put the blame on the Gcs, just to invite Turkey to come in. That game has already been played and everyone can see right through the Fascist NeoPartitionist.

what are you talking about? Seriously you are a disgrace more balanced views are presented by gc, what evidence do you base the rubbish you write?

Riddle me this: what does turkey get from 'having' the north of Cyprus?

[Viewpoint]

guAratees are a deterrant and will ensure both sides to the agreement.

Been there, seen that, done that. No, thanks.

You have no choice, if the TCs called your bluff and returned to the 1960 agreements the guarantees would still be in place.