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[Paphitis]

When the rest of the world's elite are re-establishing links with Hellenistic culture should we give it up for the sake of appeasing the Turks?

Oracle, not only is Hellenism a fantasy (mythology) but Greece is bankrupt, caput, finished, gone, washed out, screwed, rooted, etc, etc…

Now it’s just you and Yialoser left fighting over thin air…

I am deeply grateful for the support of the Hellenic Republic and for the Greek diaspora in their support in the unification of the RoC. I can walk in the streets of NYC and go to Greek American businesses asking for their support on restoration projects in Cypriot villages and you can always count on them to give. You dont see that from the village you live in but i see it and often.

Long live the Hellenic Republic.

It's quite sad that you feel that you have to go begging to Greek Americans - we GCs can stand on our own two feet.

Listen here. Quit kneeling...its embarrassing, it really is. Stand tall for the RoC....its OK to call yourself a Greek Cypriot

We GCs should have a whip round for the Hellenic Republic.

As an outside observer and after many years following Cypriot developments and politics, I am amazed that you think we can stand on our own 2 feet. Apart from EU admission, a massive political victory for our divided country, I have witnessed political mismanagement stemming from ALL political leaders starting off with Makarios, and then, Kypriannou, Vasilliou, Clerides, Pappadopoulos and now Christofias.

You are in the same basket as Greece, and maybe one day you will snap out of your third world politics and defend the interests of the RoC, because we can do without your lip service.

Furthermore, no one has ever condemned Cypriotism as a new identity for the Cypriot nation. Cypriotism should be encouraged to flourish, but this does not mean that Cypriots should erase their early Hellenic history and heritage, and it does not mean that the Cypriot identity, however distinct you believe it is, is not intertwined with Hellenism.

You can call yourself a Cypriot all you like, but you can't change historical fact!

[Epiktitos]

Restoration projects in Cypriot villages? Is that where they tell you your donations go?

Read my comment again, box head. That is where their donations go.

What makes you think Cypriot villages need restoration? Or that Greece is sending any money here for that? If anything it is Cyprus that restored one of their gutted villages from the great fire, and the way things are going pretty soon we'll probably start feeding the bankrupt losers!

It is people like you that make the young generations in the diaspora to stop having a connection with the old country. Many whose parents have fled for political or economic reasons go back to visit the old country and are treated badly. Why? Take a look at the Americanaki! America this, America that....what impression did that person get and will he /she ever visit again?

America is a war criminal and you just have to come to terms with the truth! There can be no exceptions to international law unless you’re happy for smaller/weaker countries like Cyprus, to fall victim to international corruption like we have!

I want a credible link proving your war crime allegations!

Orektiko:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/US_war_crimes#United_States_perpetrated_crimes_2
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_occupation_of_Fallujah#U.S.-Iraqi_offensive_of_November_7.2C_2004

[Epiktitos]

but you can't change historical fact!

Amen to that!

[Paphitis]

Restoration projects in Cypriot villages? Is that where they tell you your donations go?

Read my comment again, box head. That is where their donations go.

What makes you think Cypriot villages need restoration? Or that Greece is sending any money here for that? If anything it is Cyprus that restored one of their gutted villages from the great fire, and the way things are going pretty soon we'll probably start feeding the bankrupt losers!

It is people like you that make the young generations in the diaspora to stop having a connection with the old country. Many whose parents have fled for political or economic reasons go back to visit the old country and are treated badly. Why? Take a look at the Americanaki! America this, America that....what impression did that person get and will he /she ever visit again?

America is a war criminal and you just have to come to terms with the truth! There can be no exceptions to international law unless you’re happy for smaller/weaker countries like Cyprus, to fall victim to international corruption like we have!

I want a credible link proving your war crime allegations!

Orektiko:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/US_war_crimes#United_States_perpetrated_crimes_2
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_occupation_of_Fallujah#U.S.-Iraqi_offensive_of_November_7.2C_2004

I said credible link.

So you know what you can do with your wikipedia links!

[Paphitis]

but you can't change historical fact!

Amen to that!

Hey, Epictetus!

You better hope that modern Greeks abolish their newly acquired Jewish identity and go back to the identity and ethos of your namesake, because as things are right now, Greece and their revised form of 'Hellenism', aint worth shit!

[Epiktitos]

Restoration projects in Cypriot villages? Is that where they tell you your donations go?

Read my comment again, box head. That is where their donations go.

What makes you think Cypriot villages need restoration? Or that Greece is sending any money here for that? If anything it is Cyprus that restored one of their gutted villages from the great fire, and the way things are going pretty soon we'll probably start feeding the bankrupt losers!

It is people like you that make the young generations in the diaspora to stop having a connection with the old country. Many whose parents have fled for political or economic reasons go back to visit the old country and are treated badly. Why? Take a look at the Americanaki! America this, America that....what impression did that person get and will he /she ever visit again?

America is a war criminal and you just have to come to terms with the truth! There can be no exceptions to international law unless you’re happy for smaller/weaker countries like Cyprus, to fall victim to international corruption like we have!

I want a credible link proving your war crime allegations!

Orektiko:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/US_war_crimes#United_States_perpetrated_crimes_2
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_occupation_of_Fallujah#U.S.-Iraqi_offensive_of_November_7.2C_2004

I said credible link.

So you know what you can do with your wikipedia links!

Are you suggesting that the My Lai Massacre is a wikipedia fiction?

[Paphitis]

I love the GO Church and the fact I can speak Greek, but I am with the Cypriots on this one.

But you'll happily insult all those other Cypriots (passport bearers) who neither speak Greek nor not only do not respect the GO church, but would happily destroy every last icon? Yup, there are Cypriots (passport bearers) like that, but no (normal) Greek would do that!

Paphitis would - oh you said normal!

Sure I like icons! I would never dream of destroying them.

They are valuable pieces of art, just like the Mona Lisa!

[BOF]

and what of the hitite nation whose empire Cyprus was part of ?
Taking the argument from your standpoint about what happened 400 years ago regarding invasion and conquest in Cyprus, then what about America, Australia, Africa, India, Russia etc etc etc. around the same time? You want their ancestors to go back to where they came from?
Your argument is spurious - do you think people in the UK are still arguing about the civil war and the atrocities commited 400 years past against each other?
Its the 21st Century and as much as everyone wants to see a united Cyprus I would be more concerned about what HAS NOT happened in the past 35 years regarding the Cyprus problem than a distant memory that serves no purpose - its History and cannot be changed.

[Oracle]

- do you think people in the UK are still arguing about the civil war and the atrocities commited 400 years past against each other?

Maybe? It's the foundation of the class system, after all. And Welsh, Scottish and Irish 'nationalist' desires are not disconnected from everyday politics. But I suppose preparing to go to war over the 'Falklands', again, cannot be compared to the 'meaningless' rumblings amongst the disaffected 'Cypriots', left in the wake of Britain's empire!

[BOF]

O. i suggest you watch David Dimbleby's excellent series the seven ages of Britain.. you might actually learn something of the turmoils of that country, one you lived in and in the middle of its historic area too, to broaden your horizons a bit wider that the old colonialists diatribe.
The oldest surviving complete Bible in the world was made by Monks in Jarrow.
The Bayeux tapestry was made in Canterbury by nuns after the norman conquest as a form of humiliation.
Did you know that one of the knights that murdered Thomas a Beckett Lived not far from your abode in the Cotswolds?
History is changing the more we find out the truth about it - that which we know isnt always so...
And your son is after all British..