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Give up your treasonous ways Oracle and bow down to the Cypriot wellspring from which culture flowed into Europe…

My God woman, even the almighty is Cypriot but the Greek Satan will not let you see…

[Oracle]

Give up your treasonous ways Oracle and bow down to the Cypriot wellspring from which culture flowed into Europe…

My God woman, even the almighty is Cypriot but the Greek Satan will not let you see…

I completely agree that Cyprus is 100% part of the wellspring of European culture ... the oldest spring-well in the world is in Paphos, after all.

I just don't want the Turks to claim Cyprus as theirs because we didn't put up as good a fight against Turkification as the Greeks once did. The only reason they can claim 'equal rights' to the island is if we allow them to nullify any cultural reference which does not include them!

They have no defence against our roots and so they try to cut them off.

[DTA]

Give up your treasonous ways Oracle and bow down to the Cypriot wellspring from which culture flowed into Europe…

My God woman, even the almighty is Cypriot but the Greek Satan will not let you see…

I completely agree that Cyprus is 100% part of the wellspring of European culture ... the oldest spring-well in the world is in Paphos, after all.

I just don't want the Turks to claim Cyprus as theirs because we didn't put up as good a fight against Turkification as the Greeks once did. The only reason they can claim 'equal rights' to the island is if we allow them to nullify any cultural reference which does not include them!

They have no defence against our roots and so they try to cut them off.

You are just filled with hate arent you?

[Oracle]

Give up your treasonous ways Oracle and bow down to the Cypriot wellspring from which culture flowed into Europe…

My God woman, even the almighty is Cypriot but the Greek Satan will not let you see…

I completely agree that Cyprus is 100% part of the wellspring of European culture ... the oldest spring-well in the world is in Paphos, after all.

I just don't want the Turks to claim Cyprus as theirs because we didn't put up as good a fight against Turkification as the Greeks once did. The only reason they can claim 'equal rights' to the island is if we allow them to nullify any cultural reference which does not include them!

They have no defence against our roots and so they try to cut them off.

You are just filled with hate arent you?

For the Turks that have their hands on Cyprus, yes!

[Me Ed]

I love the GO Church and the fact I can speak Greek, but I am with the Cypriots on this one.

But you'll happily insult all those other Cypriots (passport bearers) who neither speak Greek nor not only do not respect the GO church, but would happily destroy every last icon? Yup, there are Cypriots (passport bearers) like that, but no (normal) Greek would do that!

Paphitis would - oh you said normal!

[EPSILON]

I love the GO Church and the fact I can speak Greek, but I am with the Cypriots on this one.

Perhaps its because in all the numerous occassions I have been to Greece, I have never really been made to feel as one with them.

Why to be Greek you must be one of them? I amnot refering to Citizenship but to Ethicity

[yialousa1971]

... If anything, it is the Greeks who have adopted Cypriot culture!

I'm not arguing against what to my mind is the most likely scenario which is that Greeks of Cyprus co-evolved along with Greeks of other islands and locations whilst sharing common goals aims and, mostly, alliances against enemies to these shared values. All parts of a whole.

But, what you say above is nonsense. Unless you can explain how the key elements of Greek culture, such as Amphitheatres and temples, as found in Cyprus are merely later examples of far older versions found in Greece?

Again, you are calling the temples "Greek culture" because the widespread narrative has taught you to do so!

No. Because the earlier versions (prototypes) of amphitheatres etc are found in Greece (upon which the newer theatres we see today were rebuilt) and other Greek settlement areas. The slightly older versions where adopted and later built in Cyprus. I'm not denying civilisation dates to at least 10,000 years ago in Cyprus, but so it does too in Greece. It was the same group of people who inhabited this whole region. Splintered and came back again. Always co-operating (eventually) by ties that bind. Merchants sailing back and forth across the whole Mediterranean including Sicily and beyond.

This all proven with out a doubt by the anthropological data, Greek Cypriots are Greeks:-

The most complete study of Greek skeletal material from Neolithic to modern times was carried out by American anthropologist J. Lawrence Angel who found that in the early age racial variability in Greece was 7% above average, indicating that the Greeks had multiple origins within the Europid racial family. Angel noted that from the earliest times to the present “racial continuity in Greece is striking.” Buxton who had earlier studied Greek skeletal material and measured modern Greeks, especially in Cyprus, finds that the modern Greeks “possess physical characteristics not differing essentially from those of the former [ancient Greeks].”

The most extensive study of modern Greeks has been carried by the Greek anthropologist Aris N. Poulianos. Poulianos’ study included the collection and study of more than seventy anthropometric measurements from a large sample of thousands of Greeks from different parts of the country. His main conclusions are that both Greeks and their neighboring populations are basically a mixture of Aegeans (a Mediterranean type local to the area) and Epirotics (Dinarics(e)) and are descended from the ancient inhabitants of the lands in which they live.

Mediterranean being a sub race of the White race (European/Caucasian). Alpine being a sub race of the White race (European/Caucasian). Dinaric being a combination of the Alpine and Mediterranean White sub races sometime in the ancient past.

[yialousa1971]

Epiktitos, you are the one who is confused because it’s the Cypriots who speak “Greek” (<- it’s only a label) correctly and the Greeks who have come up with their own dialect of ancient Cypriot!

http://www.usc.edu/uscnews/stories/3208.html

When Cyprus and Cypriotism flourished and the Cypriots were the masters of the Mediterranean, countries like Greece and Turkey did not even exist!

That paper proves nothing more than that Cyprus was inhabited by Greeks from as far back as the time the alphabet became recognisably more like that used today.

In case you missed it, the narrative that “Greeks” (read Mycenaeans) arrived on Cyprus goes on to say that they were a UNEDUCATED people who came and found Cypriots (natives) ALREADY having an alphabet which they later adopted themselves!

Also, anyone who came to live on Cyprus would’ve been assimilated into Cypriotism within a decade or two just as happens anywhere else in the world.

Why then you famous Cypriots not educated them in your language, in your culture etc. Something seems wrong in your British made theory

That's based on your assumption that "Greek culture" all came from Greece! But in reality, even Christianity came from Cyprus and then spread to Greece because Cyprus was the FIRST country outside the holy land to adopt it!

If anything, it is the Greeks who have adopted Cypriot culture!

And how did Christianity get to Cyprus? Well it came from the Holy land which was Hellenic at that time (the language being Greek even under Roman occupation). Who do you think the Philistines were?

Tell me is it true that the forum member Lit measured your head and concluded you were a box head?

[yialousa1971]

A picture GR just made for us.

[Oracle]

Here are some nice maps constructed at a time when 99.9% of the world's population didn't have a clue what day it was ...


From Herodotus, circa 450 BCE..


From Homer, circa 900 BCE..


Yup, the Greeks knew Cyprus, all right ...