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The Greek Problem: Turks in Cyprus.

How can we solve it? (keep it civilized)

Postby Oracle » Tue Mar 02, 2010 7:27 pm

Get Real! wrote:
Oracle wrote:
Get Real! wrote:
Oracle wrote:That's because that is YOUR narrative! :lol:

Luckily, I'm not alone...

Constructing an archaeological narrative: The Hellenization of Cyprus

http://www.stanford.edu/dept/archaeolog ... /paper.pdf


Still trying to hang on to some student's draft thesis paper as "credible evidence" GR!? :lol:

Do you reckon we should all just abandon common sense and jump on the Hellenic mythological bandwagon?

How academic of you! 8)


Our Hellenistic history has been appraised by many, not just Greeks. It's not new to seek evidence to reinforce or break established routines.

What you have to ask yourself GR!, is why you have decided it is a "mythological bandwagon" against irrefutable, unbiased and outside evidence? Why when the Occidental cultural elite are turning to the ideals of the Greek world, you (and the Turks) abandon them?

Cyprus and its Greek history are not incompatible with their newer European identity. They are only incompatible with Turkish nihilistic ideology.
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Re: The Greek Problem: Turks in Cyprus.

Postby miltiades » Tue Mar 02, 2010 8:40 pm

Epiktitos wrote:I wonder if any Greek in Cyprus described himself as an ethnic Cypriot before 1960...

Yes , my Pappou Chioukka , and his father Papa Spanos , both KIPREI OUXI KALAMARADES !!
ps. I have just noticed that with this post I have reached 9999 posts , so I decided to edit this post and add the following.
As a proud Cypriot who speaks fluent Greek , not badly as Epixestos posted , I would like to extend my warmest wishes to all my Cypriot compatriots who have embraced the nation of Cyprus as their motherland and have ditched the foreign motherland bullshit. Amongst them my ....dearest GR !!! :lol: Lambron naon kapsi !! :lol:
Translated into English : May his illuminance influence , burn brightly !! :lol:
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Re: The Greek Problem: Turks in Cyprus.

Postby Oracle » Tue Mar 02, 2010 8:55 pm

miltiades wrote:
Epiktitos wrote:I wonder if any Greek in Cyprus described himself as an ethnic Cypriot before 1960...

Yes , my Pappou Chioukka , and his father Papa Spanos , both KIPREI OUXI KALAMARADES !!


I think you are being economical with the truth, Milty:




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Why don't you take the celebrations for your lifetime's achievement in bulimia of the brain to the General Chat section! :wink:
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Postby Epiktitos » Wed Mar 03, 2010 12:31 am

I think I might start a campaign for the recognition of the GC community as the Greeks of Cyprus...
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Re: The Greek Problem: Turks in Cyprus.

Postby Epiktitos » Wed Mar 03, 2010 12:35 am

miltiades wrote:Lambron naon kapsi !!

Is that your example of fluent Greek?
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Postby Oracle » Wed Mar 03, 2010 1:01 am

Get Real! wrote: ... Also, anyone who came to live on Cyprus would’ve been assimilated into Cypriotism within a decade or two just as happens anywhere else in the world.


But what evidence do you have that anyone ever assimilated into "Cypriotism", in the past?

After all, our most recent invaders, Brits and Turks, have so far done a good job not only of resisting being "assimilated" to Cypriotism, but making some natives abandon any vestiges of Cypriotism (of the type recognised only by its association to Greekness) whilst firmly implanting their own languages (English, Turkish) religion (Mosques) and power-wielding personnel (Turk-TCs, Turkish and British troops).

What do we have left from this "Cypriotism"?
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Postby Malapapa » Wed Mar 03, 2010 1:53 am

Epiktitos wrote:I think I might start a campaign for the recognition of the GC community as the Greeks of Cyprus...


Why don't you stop behaving like an invading Turk and give individual Cypriot citizens the freedom to establish their own sense of self in 21st century Europe?
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Postby Liontaroui » Wed Mar 03, 2010 3:36 am

I may need to expand.... why is it in a democracy, the President is constantly heckled by the Archbishopric(k), who was voted in by something like 15-20% of the Orthodox population? To preserve my 'Greekness'.
I am Orthodox. My father is Catholic, but got shot at in 74 during fighting and lost all his posessions in Famagusta, as did my Mother. I gave up 26 months in the Army in Vyzakia (yes, all of it) as parading in front of a foreign flag was the lesser of two evils- not bothering. People like you idiots, however, would foist some kind of Greekness on me, and probably exclude half my family.
But what really gets my goat is every time a little progress is made, or someone doesn't feel some kind of Greek pride according to YOUR definitions, you label them Commies, traitors or deluded. It's YOU living the lie. TC's look like us, act like us and have the same values, whereas mainland Greeks don't. I can't comment on Turks as I haven't met a great deal. Yes, we're like the Cretans and he people of Rhodes- so what? I was born in the Republic of Cyprus and I am very proud to be a Cypriot, so please please please don't offend me with your bile.

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Postby Liontaroui » Wed Mar 03, 2010 3:40 am

And one more thing- until you grow a pair and go do some act of sabotage against the Turkish Army, leave us Cypriots to do what we can to reunify the island through peaceful means, if possible.
Your type did enough already.
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Postby Me Ed » Wed Mar 03, 2010 3:46 am

I love the GO Church and the fact I can speak Greek, but I am with the Cypriots on this one.

Perhaps its because in all the numerous occassions I have been to Greece, I have never really been made to feel as one with them.
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