The Best Cyprus Community

Skip to content


The Greek Problem: Turks in Cyprus.

How can we solve it? (keep it civilized)

Postby DT. » Tue Mar 23, 2010 11:09 am

Get Real! wrote:
Oracle wrote:
Get Real! wrote:NB: Mark and Barnabas were cousins, both Cypriots and lived in Cyprus.


Barnabas had a Hellenic Jewish mother:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Barnabas

Mark's nationality is described as Greek:

http://www.nndb.com/people/141/000095853/

It’s a load of rubbish!

Acts 4:36, from multiple versions of the bible…

http://bible.cc/acts/4-36.htm

… Barnabas was 100% Cypriot!


The foolish author has been challenged…

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Barnabas


Cypriot with a Hebrew name. You see GR! we're the true Israelis!! :lol:
User avatar
DT.
Leading Contributor
Leading Contributor
 
Posts: 12684
Joined: Sun Nov 12, 2006 8:34 pm
Location: Lefkosia

Postby Oracle » Tue Mar 23, 2010 12:06 pm

Get Real! wrote:
Oracle wrote:
Get Real! wrote:NB: Mark and Barnabas were cousins, both Cypriots and lived in Cyprus.


Barnabas had a Hellenic Jewish mother:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Barnabas

Mark's nationality is described as Greek:

http://www.nndb.com/people/141/000095853/

It’s a load of rubbish!

Acts 4:36, from multiple versions of the bible…

http://bible.cc/acts/4-36.htm

… Barnabas was 100% Cypriot!


The foolish author has been challenged…

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Barnabas


House of Levi? :lol:

Holy Moses! That means he was Hebrew through and through. Amen! :D
User avatar
Oracle
Leading Contributor
Leading Contributor
 
Posts: 23507
Joined: Mon Feb 11, 2008 11:13 am
Location: Anywhere but...

Postby Get Real! » Tue Mar 23, 2010 12:41 pm

Your feeble attempt to undermine Cyprus has gone in the direction of the Greek economy!

1. A “descendant of Levi” is not necessarily an Israeli or even Jewish! Just a descendant thereof!

2. Not even real Greeks of the time can be called “Hellenic” because this word is a 19th century invention so it could never be used to describe someone who lived 2,000 years earlier!

In case you didn’t know, the Bible makes no reference of “Hellenic” or “Hellenism” or “Hellenisation” whatsoever!
User avatar
Get Real!
Forum Addict
Forum Addict
 
Posts: 48333
Joined: Mon Feb 26, 2007 12:25 am
Location: Nicosia

Postby DT. » Tue Mar 23, 2010 12:49 pm

Get Real! wrote:Your feeble attempt to undermine Cyprus has gone in the direction of the Greek economy!

1. A “descendant of Levi” is not necessarily an Israeli or even Jewish! Just a descendant thereof!

2. Not even real Greeks of the time can be called “Hellenic” because this word is a 19th century invention so it could never be used to describe someone who lived 2,000 years earlier!

In case you didn’t know, the Bible makes no reference of “Hellenic” or “Hellenism” or “Hellenisation” whatsoever!


WHy would it mention Greek when the whole damn testament was written in Greek?

http://www.biblica.com/bibles/about/11.php

The New Testament, however, was written in Greek. This seems strange, since you might think it would be either Hebrew or Aramaic. However, Greek was the language of scholarship during the years of the composition of the New Testament from 50 to 100 AD. The fact is that many Jews could not even read Hebrew anymore, and this disturbed the Jewish leaders a lot! So, around 300 BC a translation of the Old Testament from Hebrew into Greek was undertaken, and it was completed around 200 BC. Gradually this Greek translation of the Old Testament, called the Septuagint, was widely accepted and was even used in many synagogues. It also became a wonderful missionary tool for the early Christians, for now the Greeks could read God's Word in their own tongue.

So the New Testament authors wrote in Greek. They did not, however, use really high-class or classical Greek, but a very common and everyday type of Greek. For many years some scholars ridiculed the Greek of the New Testament because many of its words were strange to those who read the writings of the great Greek classical authors such as Plato and Aristotle. But later many records were uncovered of ordinary people, and amazingly there were the same common terms used in everyday speech! The ridicule dried up accordingly.
User avatar
DT.
Leading Contributor
Leading Contributor
 
Posts: 12684
Joined: Sun Nov 12, 2006 8:34 pm
Location: Lefkosia

Postby Oracle » Tue Mar 23, 2010 1:09 pm

Get Real! wrote:Your feeble attempt to undermine Cyprus has gone in the direction of the Greek economy!


No one is undermining Cyprus except those who want to see its history revised to help the Turks along.

GR! wrote:1. A “descendant of Levi” is not necessarily an Israeli or even Jewish! Just a descendant thereof!


Yeah, but meaning he wasn't Cypriot!

GR! wrote:2. Not even real Greeks of the time can be called “Hellenic” because this word is a 19th century invention so it could never be used to describe someone who lived 2,000 years earlier!


What a load of botox! Propagandists just love you, don't they. Prepared to believe anything that a little education can't dispel! Go and read some original sources and stop behaving like a barbarian.

GR! wrote:In case you didn’t know, the Bible makes no reference of “Hellenic” or “Hellenism” or “Hellenisation” whatsoever!


Since when has the Bible been a source for "Credible Evidence"? :lol:
User avatar
Oracle
Leading Contributor
Leading Contributor
 
Posts: 23507
Joined: Mon Feb 11, 2008 11:13 am
Location: Anywhere but...

Postby Gasman » Tue Mar 23, 2010 1:37 pm

Seems to me there has never been a really independent Cyprus with no bigger powers pulling their strings. And that most Cypriots have never felt they have a 'Cypriot' identity, prefer to wave the flags and sing the songs of their perceived 'motherlands'. And that they cannot and probably never will be able to go it alone.

Even in the threads on a forum such as this, you read over and over again, them insisting 'someone else' should be intervening or insisting on some compliance or generally 'sorting things out' for them. Nowadays the UN, the EU, UK, Turkey or whoever.

Yet, oddly enough, even from the most hardliner GCs, I don't see any insistence that their beloved GREECE should be sorting out their problems?
Gasman
Main Contributor
Main Contributor
 
Posts: 3561
Joined: Sat May 02, 2009 6:18 pm

Postby Get Real! » Tue Mar 23, 2010 2:03 pm

DT. wrote:
Get Real! wrote:Your feeble attempt to undermine Cyprus has gone in the direction of the Greek economy!

1. A “descendant of Levi” is not necessarily an Israeli or even Jewish! Just a descendant thereof!

2. Not even real Greeks of the time can be called “Hellenic” because this word is a 19th century invention so it could never be used to describe someone who lived 2,000 years earlier!

In case you didn’t know, the Bible makes no reference of “Hellenic” or “Hellenism” or “Hellenisation” whatsoever!


WHy would it mention Greek when the whole damn testament was written in Greek?

http://www.biblica.com/bibles/about/11.php

The New Testament, however, was written in Greek. This seems strange, since you might think it would be either Hebrew or Aramaic. However, Greek was the language of scholarship during the years of the composition of the New Testament from 50 to 100 AD. The fact is that many Jews could not even read Hebrew anymore, and this disturbed the Jewish leaders a lot! So, around 300 BC a translation of the Old Testament from Hebrew into Greek was undertaken, and it was completed around 200 BC. Gradually this Greek translation of the Old Testament, called the Septuagint, was widely accepted and was even used in many synagogues. It also became a wonderful missionary tool for the early Christians, for now the Greeks could read God's Word in their own tongue.

So the New Testament authors wrote in Greek. They did not, however, use really high-class or classical Greek, but a very common and everyday type of Greek. For many years some scholars ridiculed the Greek of the New Testament because many of its words were strange to those who read the writings of the great Greek classical authors such as Plato and Aristotle. But later many records were uncovered of ordinary people, and amazingly there were the same common terms used in everyday speech! The ridicule dried up accordingly.

The argument is about the word "Hellenic" not Greek! Too much Glenmorangie seems to have formatted your common sense… :lol:
User avatar
Get Real!
Forum Addict
Forum Addict
 
Posts: 48333
Joined: Mon Feb 26, 2007 12:25 am
Location: Nicosia

Postby Get Real! » Tue Mar 23, 2010 2:07 pm

Oracle wrote:
GR! wrote:1. A “descendant of Levi” is not necessarily an Israeli or even Jewish! Just a descendant thereof!


Yeah, but meaning he wasn't Cypriot!

You idiot! A descendant of a Jewish tribe has no bearing on one’s nationality because being Jewish is just a religious distinction! :roll:

Since when has the Bible been a source for "Credible Evidence"? :lol:

Like always! If the bible doesn’t recognize it then it simply did not exist!
User avatar
Get Real!
Forum Addict
Forum Addict
 
Posts: 48333
Joined: Mon Feb 26, 2007 12:25 am
Location: Nicosia

Postby Epiktitos » Tue Mar 23, 2010 2:16 pm

Get Real! wrote:
Oracle wrote:
GR! wrote:1. A “descendant of Levi” is not necessarily an Israeli or even Jewish! Just a descendant thereof!


Yeah, but meaning he wasn't Cypriot!

You idiot! A descendant of a Jewish tribe has no bearing on one’s nationality because being Jewish is just a religious distinction! :roll:


Convincing with your abuse you are, grasshopper.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jewish_ethnicity

The Jews (Hebrew: יְהוּדִים‎) also known as the Jewish people, are a nation and ethnoreligious group originating in the Israelites or Hebrews of the Ancient Near East. The Jewish ethnicity, nationality, and religion are strongly interrelated, as Judaism is the traditional faith of the Jewish nation. Converts to Judaism, whose status as Jews within the Jewish ethnos is equal to those born into it, have been absorbed into the Jewish people throughout the millennia.
Epiktitos
Contributor
Contributor
 
Posts: 222
Joined: Sun Jan 24, 2010 4:21 am

Postby Get Real! » Tue Mar 23, 2010 2:17 pm

Gasman wrote:Seems to me there has never been a really independent Cyprus with no bigger powers pulling their strings.

Of course there was…

http://www.metmuseum.org/toah/hd/cyco/hd_cyco.htm

The great Egyptian pharaohs often mention trading with Alasia/Cyprus in their records.

And that most Cypriots have never felt they have a 'Cypriot' identity, prefer to wave the flags and sing the songs of their perceived 'motherlands'.

That's just 20th century mental poisoning.

And that they cannot and probably never will be able to go it alone.

Since 1960 Cyprus has been going it alone! Where have you been?
User avatar
Get Real!
Forum Addict
Forum Addict
 
Posts: 48333
Joined: Mon Feb 26, 2007 12:25 am
Location: Nicosia

PreviousNext

Return to Cyprus Problem

Who is online

Users browsing this forum: No registered users and 0 guests