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Re: What if the 40,000 troops left after TRNC was declared?

Postby Epiktitos » Wed Mar 03, 2010 1:38 am

aussieturk wrote:
BirKibrisli wrote:
Epiktitos wrote:
aussieturk wrote:
Epiktitos wrote:
aussieturk wrote:Would the South have invaded to take back their land? or violence commenced by some radical GC's?

Would a solution have been found for the Island?

What would have happened?

The fact that no military forces have been withdrawn in the almost 30 years since the declaration ought to tell you precisely what would happen.


All I am asking if they were withdrawn, do you think we would have the same situation today? or would we go back to the same as the 60's

Things would be done properly. The RoC would one way or another reassert control of the occupied north, the 1960 treaties would be unilaterally abrogated by at least the RoC and Greece, and the constitution would be rewritten and presented on a take it or leave it basis. So no, it would be nothing like the 1960's.


It would be nothing like the 60s,aussie turk...it would be 100 times worse...In 1967 the TCs at Kofunye blocked one road to GC access...Makarios replied by sending Grivas and his paramilitaries to stage a full scale attack on the two villages (Kofunye and Aytotro) resulting in more than 20 TC deaths...The GC assault only stopped when Turkish jets flew over,and Turkey threatened to invade unless they stopped and Grivas was sent away from Cyprus...What do you think would've happened in 1983 had the Turkish troops withdrew? :roll:


I know what would have happened, I am showing our GC friends that the troops and guarantees are necessary. When they accept that maybe the unification talks can be agreed and concluded once and for all.

Being both australian and turk, I understand that your urge to take what is not yours must be immense. If only you stuck to stealing sheep to feed and clothe your children.

The resentment for you and those like you has been built into the Greek psyche for millenia. Faced with a decision, the RoC would rather cede the north than bring her citizens under another guarantee. Of course despite their "might", the turks lack the ability to force this kind of decision. So instead you live in your wretchedness with your precious guarantees in your open air prison camp; enjoy it.
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Re: What if the 40,000 troops left after TRNC was declared?

Postby BirKibrisli » Wed Mar 03, 2010 4:36 am

Epiktitos wrote:
aussieturk wrote:
BirKibrisli wrote:
Epiktitos wrote:
aussieturk wrote:
Epiktitos wrote:
aussieturk wrote:Would the South have invaded to take back their land? or violence commenced by some radical GC's?

Would a solution have been found for the Island?

What would have happened?

The fact that no military forces have been withdrawn in the almost 30 years since the declaration ought to tell you precisely what would happen.


All I am asking if they were withdrawn, do you think we would have the same situation today? or would we go back to the same as the 60's

Things would be done properly. The RoC would one way or another reassert control of the occupied north, the 1960 treaties would be unilaterally abrogated by at least the RoC and Greece, and the constitution would be rewritten and presented on a take it or leave it basis. So no, it would be nothing like the 1960's.


It would be nothing like the 60s,aussie turk...it would be 100 times worse...In 1967 the TCs at Kofunye blocked one road to GC access...Makarios replied by sending Grivas and his paramilitaries to stage a full scale attack on the two villages (Kofunye and Aytotro) resulting in more than 20 TC deaths...The GC assault only stopped when Turkish jets flew over,and Turkey threatened to invade unless they stopped and Grivas was sent away from Cyprus...What do you think would've happened in 1983 had the Turkish troops withdrew? :roll:


I know what would have happened, I am showing our GC friends that the troops and guarantees are necessary. When they accept that maybe the unification talks can be agreed and concluded once and for all.

Being both australian and turk, I understand that your urge to take what is not yours must be immense. If only you stuck to stealing sheep to feed and clothe your children.

The resentment for you and those like you has been built into the Greek psyche for millenia. Faced with a decision, the RoC would rather cede the north than bring her citizens under another guarantee. Of course despite their "might", the turks lack the ability to force this kind of decision. So instead you live in your wretchedness with your precious guarantees in your open air prison camp; enjoy it.


Spoken like a true Turk/TC- hater...The more I read these posts the more I realise how stupid I had been to think that the majority of the GCs were ready to drop their historical anger and bitterness and move on...I write these lines with great sadness,beause I know there are very decent GCs out there I would trust with my life,but unfortunately they seem to be in the minority,and their voices will be drowned by the revenge-seeking war cries of the fanatics, if and when it comes to another bloody conflict...I better start prefecting my Turkish accent if I don't want to be laughed at by my future compatriots in the North...
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Re: What if the 40,000 troops left after TRNC was declared?

Postby Epiktitos » Wed Mar 03, 2010 4:43 am

BirKibrisli wrote: I know there are very decent GCs out there I would trust with my life,but unfortunately they seem to be in the minority,and their voices will be drowned by the revenge-seeking war cries of the fanatics.

Young fry of treachery!

You would do well to consider the source of their hatred as you brush up on your accent.
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Re: What if the 40,000 troops left after TRNC was declared?

Postby BirKibrisli » Wed Mar 03, 2010 5:05 am

Epiktitos wrote:
BirKibrisli wrote: I know there are very decent GCs out there I would trust with my life,but unfortunately they seem to be in the minority,and their voices will be drowned by the revenge-seeking war cries of the fanatics.

Young fry of treachery!

You would do well to consider the source of their hatred as you brush up on your accent.


I know the source: Deep rooted ,misplaced, historical animosity and hatred...This kind of long-held subconscious bitterness and hatred turn their hosts into sub-humans living for blind revenge...You cannot be helped,I am afraid...We must keep you at bay...Like rabid dogs... :(
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Re: What if the 40,000 troops left after TRNC was declared?

Postby Epiktitos » Wed Mar 03, 2010 5:12 am

BirKibrisli wrote:I know the source: Deep rooted ,misplaced, historical animosity and hatred

This is the effect, not the source.

BirKibrisli wrote:We must keep you at bay

Good luck with that!
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