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Re: Flying to Ercan and travelling to Larnaca

Postby kurupetos » Mon Mar 01, 2010 11:11 pm

halil wrote:
SAMSAMSAM wrote:Hi there,

I had an little problem where I would like to get an answer.

I am suppose to go to the Larnaca this month.
I booked the flights last week and unfortunally I booked flights Amsterdam-Istanbul-Ercan and back.

Later on I did hear that there may be problems to enter to the Cyprus from TRNC.

Is it illegal for me to go to the Larnaca for few days and if not, what is the easiest way to get from Ercan to the Larnaca?
I searched that there is busses going to the Nicosia green line.

I hold the EU passport.

Thank you for your answers.


Without problem u can pass from the boarder. At Ercan tell the passport controller not to stamp on your passport. They will give u piece of white paper u fill the paper thats all.

If u arrive night time it will be difficult to find the buses to Larnaca.

U can get taxi from Ercan to Lokmaci gate.From Lokmaci check point u must walk few minutes to Ledra street . At the end of the ledra street u can get Taxi to Larnaca or if it was day time around that area there is a bus terminal which u can take bus to Larnaca.

It will be difficult way to Larnaca but u have no way if u bought your tickets. Good luck and do not take seriously the political arguments.


As I said before it might prove out to be more expensive in the end. :lol:
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Postby Gasman » Mon Mar 01, 2010 11:18 pm

More to the point (despite the fancy rant Oracle keeps pasting in) it doesn't stop all those PLANES flying to there and landing there - does it?

Ercan is a closed airport ... lol! The only thing that's closed here is Oracle's mind (and probably her eyes too).
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Postby Oracle » Mon Mar 01, 2010 11:21 pm

Just for that! :D

Use of Illegal Airports “ERCAN” (TYMBOU)

1. “ERCAN” (TYMBOU) is a closed airport situated in the occupied part of the Republic of Cyprus, which the Government of Cyprus, as the sole legitimate and internationally recognized authority on the island, has declared since 1974 as an illegal point of entry into and exit from the Republic of Cyprus, for the reason of not being able to exercise control over the occupied part of its territory, as a result of the continuing Turkish military occupation. Under International law the Republic of Cyprus is the sole sovereign authority with exclusive jurisdiction to determine which of its airports on its territory are open and functioning, as well as the terms of their operation.

2. It is also important to note that “ERCAN” is located on property belonging to a significant number of Greek Cypriot refugees who were forcibly expelled from their properties by the invasion forces. These refugees still remain the legal owners of their properties and they have never consented for the construction of the airport and its use as such. In that regard reference is made to the cases of Loizidou vs Turkey and Xenides-Arestis vs Turkey in which the European Court of Human Rights held that the applicants remain the legal owners of their property in the occupied areas and that Turkey continues to be in breach of Article
1, Protocol 1 of the European Convention on Human Rights.



3. The so-called “ERCAN” airport is not recognized by ICAO, which is the highest international authority on legal issues relating to civil aviation in general. ICAO’s policy on matters relating to Cyprus is in conformity with that of the United Nations and the international community. Consequently, ICAO recognizes only the Republic of Cyprus and its Government as the sole representative of the whole island. It should also be stressed that according to ICAO decisions of 1974, 1975 and 1977, a country not exercising temporarily effective control over its territory by reason of military occupation, does not lose its sovereign rights over such territory and the airspace above it.



4. Furthermore, Turkey, in violation of the Chicago Convention on the International Civil Aviation, the constitutional instrument of ICAO, and its Annexes, to which 188 countries, including the Republic of Cyprus and Turkey, are States-Parties to and following a number of illegal acts after the Turkish invasion, proclaimed the establishment of “Ercan advisory service” which lies in the northern part of Nicosia FIR. The illegal operation of the unrecognized “ERCAN advisory service” causes serious risks over safety, flight efficiency and airspace development in the region and in particular increased workload and inconvenience both for aircrews and Nicosia ACC Controllers and leads to misunderstandings due to the intervention in the provision of Air Traffic Control Services. Ankara ACC should be called upon to adopt standard ICAO procedures and transfer southbound traffic to the contiguous Nicosia control and to take practical steps for the restoration of the voice link between Ankara and Nicosia ACC's.


5. Any possible use by international traffic, of the illegally operating airports, such as “ERCAN” (TYMPOU), violates International law, U.N. Security Council resolutions, E.U. positions and contravenes the ICAO and the EUROCONTROL Conventions, and their respective norms, standards, procedures and recommended practices.



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Postby Gasman » Mon Mar 01, 2010 11:24 pm

Oh and more terrible bad REALITY CHECK news for you Oracle. Sometimes the planes from the UK to Ercan do not touch down in Turkey (shock! horror! gasp!) and I know people who've flown on them from Stanstead and heard of many others (talking to holiday makers in the TRNC).

They just circled a bit. I think they can change flight numbers while in the air.

Don't tell me the RoC powers that be don't know all these things. Not if little ole me does lol!
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Postby Gasman » Mon Mar 01, 2010 11:25 pm

Now you see why I take no notice of any drivel you post. You are proving this evening that you do not know what you are talking about.
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Postby londoner » Mon Mar 01, 2010 11:25 pm

Oracle - large font, bold and now colour - you are really enjoying yourself
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Postby apc2010 » Mon Mar 01, 2010 11:28 pm

She lost her crayons...By the way did i say it stopped the gcs to go and gamble there LOL
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Postby Gasman » Mon Mar 01, 2010 11:28 pm

Yeah! Let her play!

Oh and those flights to Ercan from Stanstead where they ask all the passengers whether they are 'going to Turkey' first lol!

And where they suddenly 'encounter a bit of bad weather' over Turkey - resulting in them having to fly straight on to Ercan!

Do try to get with the programme Oracle! You are lagging sadly behind.
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Postby SAMSAMSAM » Mon Mar 01, 2010 11:30 pm

YFred wrote:SamSamSam, don't listen to a word of what the fascists are saying on this forum about Ercan. I have landed many times there and crossed over to the south with the police checking it. You get a feeling they would like to lock you up, but threre is fuck all they can do about it. You are free to land anywhere in Cyprus you like. You will have no problem what so ever. I suggest you book yourself to a nice hotel and enjoy the better delights of the TRNC before you go down south and get fleeced by the ungreatful bunch.
Enjoy your stay in Cyprus my friend and come back to the forum and tell us your experience of both sides of the devide. :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:


Dear friend,
Thank you for your suggestions. I will absolutely tour the TRNC after I have stayed few days in Larnaca.

I was just wondering because I arrive late evening and propably I should take take taxi to the bprder crossing and then walk through.

I did research that there is buses leaving from Filoxenia (Cyprus Hotel and Catering Institute) to the Larnaca
0:00 and 0215 KAPNOS BUSES - Tel.: 77 77 14 77

Do you think that two hours is enought for me to get to the bus stop / other side of the green line? Does the border crossing usually take for long time?

What border crossing should I ask the cab driver to take me?


Thank you so much for everyones help.
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Postby Gasman » Mon Mar 01, 2010 11:38 pm

Could you not book into somewhere in the TRNC for one night and then do the journey starting the following morning?

Here's a bit more info for Oracle:

All direct flights to Northern Cyprus are operated by Cyprus Turkish Airlines. They depart from several UK Airports:

* Stanstead
* Gatwick
* Heathrow
* Manchester
* Glasgow
* Belfast

Tickets for direct flights to The Northern side of Cyprus can be booked with the following Companies:

Cyprus Turkish Airline Direct flights to Ercan Northern Cyprus

ENGLAND SALES & RESERVATION OFFICE

CTA HOLIDAYS

NEWINGTON GREEN SALES & RESERVATION OFFICE

GreenIslandHolidays.com for Direct flights to Northern Cyprus

Welcome to the World of Anatolian Sky Holidays for Direct flights to Northern Cyprus

Mosiac Holidays for Direct flights to Northern Cyprus

All flights fully ATOL protected


I love the particular website I lifted that from. They state that 'flights to Ercan touch down in Turkey to refuel'

lol!
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