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[apc2010]

You are not breaking any laws, when you cross into Nicosia you can get a bus or taxi .

[halil]

Hi there,

I had an little problem where I would like to get an answer.

I am suppose to go to the Larnaca this month.
I booked the flights last week and unfortunally I booked flights Amsterdam-Istanbul-Ercan and back.

Later on I did hear that there may be problems to enter to the Cyprus from TRNC.

Is it illegal for me to go to the Larnaca for few days and if not, what is the easiest way to get from Ercan to the Larnaca?
I searched that there is busses going to the Nicosia green line.

I hold the EU passport.

Thank you for your answers.

Without problem u can pass from the boarder. At Ercan tell the passport controller not to stamp on your passport. They will give u piece of white paper u fill the paper thats all.

If u arrive night time it will be difficult to find the buses to Larnaca.

U can get taxi from Ercan to Lokmaci gate.From Lokmaci check point u must walk few minutes to Ledra street . At the end of the ledra street u can get Taxi to Larnaca or if it was day time around that area there is a bus terminal which u can take bus to Larnaca.

It will be difficult way to Larnaca but u have no way if u bought your tickets. Good luck and do not take seriously the political arguments.

[Gasman]

Even if he does get his passport stamped he won't have any trouble.

I checked this all out 3 months ago for NZ visitors.

The only time they might get a problem is if they ENTER via Ercan and want to LEAVE via Larnaca.

But even then, the GC border police (who phoned through to find out exactly) told me that they usually 'turn a blind eye to it' and that if they used the Metahan Crossing they'd definitely be OK.

The poster here has an EU passport. The hitch with the NZers was that they did not. They went back to their travel agent and she confirmed to them that they were OK with the travel plan. That they come under a group of non EU nationals that are grouped with Aussies.

I have the full details and text of it all somewhere.

The hitch with coming in via Ercan and trying to leave via LCA or Pafos was due to them needing some stamp at the point of entry (due to being non EU) that they would not be able to get at Ercan.

They had no problems whatsoever. Their only reason for wanting to fly into Ercan and not LCA was because they were going to be in Turkey immediately before coming to Cyprus.

[Oracle]

Do not listen to the crooks!

This is EU law ....



Use of Illegal Airports “ERCAN” (TYMBOU)

1. “ERCAN” (TYMBOU) is a closed airport situated in the occupied part of the Republic of Cyprus, which the Government of Cyprus, as the sole legitimate and internationally recognized authority on the island, has declared since 1974 as an illegal point of entry into and exit from the Republic of Cyprus, for the reason of not being able to exercise control over the occupied part of its territory, as a result of the continuing Turkish military occupation. Under International law the Republic of Cyprus is the sole sovereign authority with exclusive jurisdiction to determine which of its airports on its territory are open and functioning, as well as the terms of their operation.

2. It is also important to note that “ERCAN” is located on property belonging to a significant number of Greek Cypriot refugees who were forcibly expelled from their properties by the invasion forces. These refugees still remain the legal owners of their properties and they have never consented for the construction of the airport and its use as such. In that regard reference is made to the cases of Loizidou vs Turkey and Xenides-Arestis vs Turkey in which the European Court of Human Rights held that the applicants remain the legal owners of their property in the occupied areas and that Turkey continues to be in breach of Article 1, Protocol 1 of the European Convention on Human Rights.

3. The so-called “ERCAN” airport is not recognized by ICAO, which is the highest international authority on legal issues relating to civil aviation in general. ICAO’s policy on matters relating to Cyprus is in conformity with that of the United Nations and the international community. Consequently, ICAO recognizes only the Republic of Cyprus and its Government as the sole representative of the whole island. It should also be stressed that according to ICAO decisions of 1974, 1975 and 1977, a country not exercising temporarily effective control over its territory by reason of military occupation, does not lose its sovereign rights over such territory and the airspace above it.

4. Furthermore, Turkey, in violation of the Chicago Convention on the International Civil Aviation, the constitutional instrument of ICAO, and its Annexes, to which 188 countries, including the Republic of Cyprus and Turkey, are States-Parties to and following a number of illegal acts after the Turkish invasion, proclaimed the establishment of “Ercan advisory service” which lies in the northern part of Nicosia FIR. The illegal operation of the unrecognized “ERCAN advisory service” causes serious risks over safety, flight efficiency and airspace development in the region and in particular increased workload and inconvenience both for aircrews and Nicosia ACC Controllers and leads to misunderstandings due to the intervention in the provision of Air Traffic Control Services. Ankara ACC should be called upon to adopt standard ICAO procedures and transfer southbound traffic to the contiguous Nicosia control and to take practical steps for the restoration of the voice link between Ankara and Nicosia ACC's.

5. Any possible use by international traffic, of the illegally operating airports, such as “ERCAN” (TYMPOU), violates International law, U.N. Security Council resolutions, E.U. positions and contravenes the ICAO and the EUROCONTROL Conventions, and their respective norms, standards, procedures and recommended practices.


http://www.mfa.gov.cy/mfa/embassies/emb ... enDocument

[londoner]

Samsamsam, as you may now be aware there are some political disagreements on our lovely island but this will not affect your trip - have a good trip

[Gasman]

Take no notice of Oracle whatsoever. Histrionics is her specialty.

I have the Harvey World Travel Itinerary here on screen showing what they were able to do.

Oracle never goes anywhere. Just sits at her PC ranting about Turks and Turkey. She should try going to see some of the places and people that she pontificates upon sometime. It would open her eyes!

You are an EU citizen. You will be allowed into the South.

And you are not going to try to depart via a port in the RoC so won't have any hitches whatsoever.

Perhaps you would be better off asking your questions on a Northern Cyprus forum. They will have lots of people who have all done it before many, many times and better able to advise you about transport from Ercan to Larnaca and the cost and so on. There are quite a few taxi firms in the North who will take you - but it is good to get a recommendation.

[SAMSAMSAM]

Do not let people scare you about this trip, myself and my family have crossed over the border in both directions with our EU passports and we have not had any problems at all.

When you get to Istanbul, before passport control, you will have to go to the visa desk and pay for a visa (I think this is £15-£20) in order to stay over. When you get to Ercan you will have to get to Nicosia where you can walk over the border. From Nicosia you can get a bus to Larnaca during the day, but I do not think the buses run at night.

Goof luck with your trip.

Dear friend,

Do I need the Visa for the Ercan? Because before when I have been in the Turkey I have not needed visa to the Turkey.

Thank you.

[Oracle]

Do not listen to the crooks!

This is EU law ....



Use of Illegal Airports “ERCAN” (TYMBOU)

1. “ERCAN” (TYMBOU) is a closed airport situated in the occupied part of the Republic of Cyprus, which the Government of Cyprus, as the sole legitimate and internationally recognized authority on the island, has declared since 1974 as an illegal point of entry into and exit from the Republic of Cyprus, for the reason of not being able to exercise control over the occupied part of its territory, as a result of the continuing Turkish military occupation. Under International law the Republic of Cyprus is the sole sovereign authority with exclusive jurisdiction to determine which of its airports on its territory are open and functioning, as well as the terms of their operation.

2. It is also important to note that “ERCAN” is located on property belonging to a significant number of Greek Cypriot refugees who were forcibly expelled from their properties by the invasion forces. These refugees still remain the legal owners of their properties and they have never consented for the construction of the airport and its use as such. In that regard reference is made to the cases of Loizidou vs Turkey and Xenides-Arestis vs Turkey in which the European Court of Human Rights held that the applicants remain the legal owners of their property in the occupied areas and that Turkey continues to be in breach of Article 1, Protocol 1 of the European Convention on Human Rights.

3. The so-called “ERCAN” airport is not recognized by ICAO, which is the highest international authority on legal issues relating to civil aviation in general. ICAO’s policy on matters relating to Cyprus is in conformity with that of the United Nations and the international community. Consequently, ICAO recognizes only the Republic of Cyprus and its Government as the sole representative of the whole island. It should also be stressed that according to ICAO decisions of 1974, 1975 and 1977, a country not exercising temporarily effective control over its territory by reason of military occupation, does not lose its sovereign rights over such territory and the airspace above it.

4. Furthermore, Turkey, in violation of the Chicago Convention on the International Civil Aviation, the constitutional instrument of ICAO, and its Annexes, to which 188 countries, including the Republic of Cyprus and Turkey, are States-Parties to and following a number of illegal acts after the Turkish invasion, proclaimed the establishment of “Ercan advisory service” which lies in the northern part of Nicosia FIR. The illegal operation of the unrecognized “ERCAN advisory service” causes serious risks over safety, flight efficiency and airspace development in the region and in particular increased workload and inconvenience both for aircrews and Nicosia ACC Controllers and leads to misunderstandings due to the intervention in the provision of Air Traffic Control Services. Ankara ACC should be called upon to adopt standard ICAO procedures and transfer southbound traffic to the contiguous Nicosia control and to take practical steps for the restoration of the voice link between Ankara and Nicosia ACC's.

5. Any possible use by international traffic, of the illegally operating airports, such as “ERCAN” (TYMPOU), violates International law, U.N. Security Council resolutions, E.U. positions and contravenes the ICAO and the EUROCONTROL Conventions, and their respective norms, standards, procedures and recommended practices.


http://www.mfa.gov.cy/mfa/embassies/emb ... enDocument

[SAMSAMSAM]

Hi there,

I had an little problem where I would like to get an answer.

I am suppose to go to the Larnaca this month.
I booked the flights last week and unfortunally I booked flights Amsterdam-Istanbul-Ercan and back.

Later on I did hear that there may be problems to enter to the Cyprus from TRNC.

Is it illegal for me to go to the Larnaca for few days and if not, what is the easiest way to get from Ercan to the Larnaca?
I searched that there is busses going to the Nicosia green line.

I hold the EU passport.

Thank you for your answers.

Without problem u can pass from the boarder. At Ercan tell the passport controller not to stamp on your passport. They will give u piece of white paper u fill the paper thats all.

If u arrive night time it will be difficult to find the buses to Larnaca.

U can get taxi from Ercan to Lokmaci gate.From Lokmaci check point u must walk few minutes to Ledra street . At the end of the ledra street u can get Taxi to Larnaca or if it was day time around that area there is a bus terminal which u can take bus to Larnaca.

It will be difficult way to Larnaca but u have no way if u bought your tickets. Good luck and do not take seriously the political arguments.

Dear friend,

How long does this whole trip take?
I arrive Ercan at 10pm evening so I will propably need to take a cab.

Also. I will get the turkish stamp already in Istanbul. So should I ask there them to stamp the white paper?

thank you

[Oracle]

Do not listen to the crooks!

This is EU law ....



Use of Illegal Airports “ERCAN” (TYMBOU)

1. “ERCAN” (TYMBOU) is a closed airport situated in the occupied part of the Republic of Cyprus, which the Government of Cyprus, as the sole legitimate and internationally recognized authority on the island, has declared since 1974 as an illegal point of entry into and exit from the Republic of Cyprus, for the reason of not being able to exercise control over the occupied part of its territory, as a result of the continuing Turkish military occupation. Under International law the Republic of Cyprus is the sole sovereign authority with exclusive jurisdiction to determine which of its airports on its territory are open and functioning, as well as the terms of their operation.

2. It is also important to note that “ERCAN” is located on property belonging to a significant number of Greek Cypriot refugees who were forcibly expelled from their properties by the invasion forces. These refugees still remain the legal owners of their properties and they have never consented for the construction of the airport and its use as such. In that regard reference is made to the cases of Loizidou vs Turkey and Xenides-Arestis vs Turkey in which the European Court of Human Rights held that the applicants remain the legal owners of their property in the occupied areas and that Turkey continues to be in breach of Article 1, Protocol 1 of the European Convention on Human Rights.

3. The so-called “ERCAN” airport is not recognized by ICAO, which is the highest international authority on legal issues relating to civil aviation in general. ICAO’s policy on matters relating to Cyprus is in conformity with that of the United Nations and the international community. Consequently, ICAO recognizes only the Republic of Cyprus and its Government as the sole representative of the whole island. It should also be stressed that according to ICAO decisions of 1974, 1975 and 1977, a country not exercising temporarily effective control over its territory by reason of military occupation, does not lose its sovereign rights over such territory and the airspace above it.

4. Furthermore, Turkey, in violation of the Chicago Convention on the International Civil Aviation, the constitutional instrument of ICAO, and its Annexes, to which 188 countries, including the Republic of Cyprus and Turkey, are States-Parties to and following a number of illegal acts after the Turkish invasion, proclaimed the establishment of “Ercan advisory service” which lies in the northern part of Nicosia FIR. The illegal operation of the unrecognized “ERCAN advisory service” causes serious risks over safety, flight efficiency and airspace development in the region and in particular increased workload and inconvenience both for aircrews and Nicosia ACC Controllers and leads to misunderstandings due to the intervention in the provision of Air Traffic Control Services. Ankara ACC should be called upon to adopt standard ICAO procedures and transfer southbound traffic to the contiguous Nicosia control and to take practical steps for the restoration of the voice link between Ankara and Nicosia ACC's.

5. Any possible use by international traffic, of the illegally operating airports, such as “ERCAN” (TYMPOU), violates International law, U.N. Security Council resolutions, E.U. positions and contravenes the ICAO and the EUROCONTROL Conventions, and their respective norms, standards, procedures and recommended practices.


http://www.mfa.gov.cy/mfa/embassies/emb ... enDocument