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[Gasman]

And for what it's worth. I find it cringingly embarrassing how you two have to stick up for each other whenever anyone disagrees with one or the other of you.

Stand on your own two feet I say! If you think you are right, you shouldn't need to drag your forum mate in to back you up.

[Get Real!]

Gasman, (<- actually make that FartWoman #2)

Oracle is indeed guilty of making many controversial, meaningless, open ended, cloudy, inconclusive, and just downright time wasting threads/posts in the CyProb, that attract fools like you to respond just as flies are attracted to droppings, and I’ll bet if she was to stop posting many of you would have absolutely nothing to say because any serious technical discussion would be above and beyond your pea brains!

Perhaps the Admin should create a special “Cyprus Problem for nincompoops” topic section so you can all go in there...

[wyoming cowboy]

Crossing into Kyrenia's airspace is a violation of the ROC airspace

They cross over, yep.

That sounds like a general statement. Did they cross the Green line or not and when and by how much?
You have my permission to shoot them down if they stray from the TRNC airspace.

[aussieturk]

I really think the EU should take this violation more seriously!

Perhaps we should be taking our complaints to the EU and not just the UN ....

And what's NATO going to blooming well do about their belligerent Tourko members?

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[Cyprus has protested to UN Secretary General the ongoing violations of the international air traffic regulations and the national airspace of the Republic of Cyprus by military aircraft of the Turkish Air Force.

In a letter addressed to UNSG Ban Ki-moon, Permanent Representative of Cyprus to the UN Minas Hadjimichael, strongly protests the continued violations by Turkey and calls for their immediate cessation.

“Turkey’s policy of non-observance of rules and regulations governing international aviation continues to gravely jeopardize flight safety and perpetuate insecurity and apprehension on the island”, Hadjimichael notes.

Furthermore, he stresses that “Turkey’s systematic attempts to undermine the sovereignty and unity of the Republic of Cyprus by promoting an illegal secessionist entity, arrogating to itself, inter alia, the right to control part of the airspace of the Republic of Cyprus, further complicate the efforts to build trust and confidence between the two communities”. ]
Famagusta Gazette

If this is true, then Turkey needs to be reprimanded by Nato.

[Epiktitos]

I really think the EU should take this violation more seriously!

Perhaps we should be taking our complaints to the EU and not just the UN ....

And what's NATO going to blooming well do about their belligerent Tourko members?

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[Cyprus has protested to UN Secretary General the ongoing violations of the international air traffic regulations and the national airspace of the Republic of Cyprus by military aircraft of the Turkish Air Force.

In a letter addressed to UNSG Ban Ki-moon, Permanent Representative of Cyprus to the UN Minas Hadjimichael, strongly protests the continued violations by Turkey and calls for their immediate cessation.

“Turkey’s policy of non-observance of rules and regulations governing international aviation continues to gravely jeopardize flight safety and perpetuate insecurity and apprehension on the island”, Hadjimichael notes.

Furthermore, he stresses that “Turkey’s systematic attempts to undermine the sovereignty and unity of the Republic of Cyprus by promoting an illegal secessionist entity, arrogating to itself, inter alia, the right to control part of the airspace of the Republic of Cyprus, further complicate the efforts to build trust and confidence between the two communities”. ]
Famagusta Gazette

If this is true, then Turkey needs to be reprimanded by Nato.

If this is true? turkey militarily occupies the territory of a EU member sovereign state, and regularly provides training for HAF pilots (supposed NATO allies) not by just violating zones of disputed airspace in the Aegean, but by overflying populated islands whose sovereignty is not disputed even by the turk foreign ministry.

Perversely, NATO members do not have treaty obligations if one NATO member is attacked by another NATO member (and certainly do not care if a NATO member attacks a non-NATO member). Iit obviously used to suit NATO to deny the absurdity of a Greek-turk military alliance, in order to present NATO as a credible deterrent to the Soviet Union.