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Postby Kikapu » Thu Mar 25, 2010 12:16 pm

YFred wrote:
Kikapu wrote:
YFred wrote:
Kikapu wrote:Now that the Obama's compressive Health Care Plan has become law of the land, no thanks to the Republicans, any and all praise will ONLY go to the Democrats for years to come, if in fact the Health Care Plan will benefit Americans as it was plan to do, just as the Social Security and Medicare has. This will be a huge political wave that the democrats can ride for many years to come, so how will the Republicans save themselves politically from such a fall out by them refusing to support Obama's Heath Care bill. Not ONE republican in the Senate or the House voted for this bill. Well, they may now end up having to support the Armenian Genocide bill that will be voted on by the Congress soon so not to be seen as "pro Genocide" if they do not support the Democrats, even though in general, there are just as many Republicans supporting the Armenian Genocide bill as Democrats. However, any Republican who does not vote on the AG bill, will not only be seen as anti Health Care for Americans, but also be seen as pro Genocide of the Armenians, as unfair as it may be with such labels, but that's politics for you. Therefore, I predict that the Armenian Genocide bill will pass in the Congress by a large margin when the bill comes up to be voted on in the near future.!

It would have been a fine thing if it was a health plan but it is not. It's a compalsory insurance system lining the pockets of insurance companies similar to our car insurance policies. What a shame.


It's is a plan to ensure that no one is left uninsured, denied insurance or dropped coverage for any reason, and at the same time the Health Care service remains private where one can have access to it right away, unlike where you may have to wait for many months to be treated as the case is in the UK for non life threatening illness or conditions. The government will provide financial help where needed just so that medical coverage is available to all, as the case is here in Switzerland. We too need to have private medical coverage for everyone and do not have a National Heath system, as the case is in many European countries.

With all its financial constraints, our NHS which is free at the point of delivery is the envy of the world. Couldn't US afford it? like hell. It was the big boys telling the president to get stuffed, and you know it. It is no good pretending otherwise Kicks. US Democracy? they can keep it.


Even many Brits take out private insurance coverage plans just so that they don't need to wait month at a time to be treated. I wouldn't exactly call the NHS free either, since to finance it comes mostly from higher income taxes, higher VAT, higher petrol, cigarette and booze, higher cost in everything from clothing to eating out in the UK and many other European countries than you would have in the US. I believe as of yesterday's budget, another £4 Billion pounds are cut from the NHS, which would mean less service and longer waiting for the patients.! I'm not knocking the NHS. All I'm saying is, it is not free and that you are paying for it one way or the other, that's all.!
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Postby YFred » Thu Mar 25, 2010 1:06 pm

Kikapu wrote:
YFred wrote:
Kikapu wrote:
YFred wrote:
Kikapu wrote:Now that the Obama's compressive Health Care Plan has become law of the land, no thanks to the Republicans, any and all praise will ONLY go to the Democrats for years to come, if in fact the Health Care Plan will benefit Americans as it was plan to do, just as the Social Security and Medicare has. This will be a huge political wave that the democrats can ride for many years to come, so how will the Republicans save themselves politically from such a fall out by them refusing to support Obama's Heath Care bill. Not ONE republican in the Senate or the House voted for this bill. Well, they may now end up having to support the Armenian Genocide bill that will be voted on by the Congress soon so not to be seen as "pro Genocide" if they do not support the Democrats, even though in general, there are just as many Republicans supporting the Armenian Genocide bill as Democrats. However, any Republican who does not vote on the AG bill, will not only be seen as anti Health Care for Americans, but also be seen as pro Genocide of the Armenians, as unfair as it may be with such labels, but that's politics for you. Therefore, I predict that the Armenian Genocide bill will pass in the Congress by a large margin when the bill comes up to be voted on in the near future.!

It would have been a fine thing if it was a health plan but it is not. It's a compalsory insurance system lining the pockets of insurance companies similar to our car insurance policies. What a shame.


It's is a plan to ensure that no one is left uninsured, denied insurance or dropped coverage for any reason, and at the same time the Health Care service remains private where one can have access to it right away, unlike where you may have to wait for many months to be treated as the case is in the UK for non life threatening illness or conditions. The government will provide financial help where needed just so that medical coverage is available to all, as the case is here in Switzerland. We too need to have private medical coverage for everyone and do not have a National Heath system, as the case is in many European countries.

With all its financial constraints, our NHS which is free at the point of delivery is the envy of the world. Couldn't US afford it? like hell. It was the big boys telling the president to get stuffed, and you know it. It is no good pretending otherwise Kicks. US Democracy? they can keep it.


Even many Brits take out private insurance coverage plans just so that they don't need to wait month at a time to be treated. I wouldn't exactly call the NHS free either, since to finance it comes mostly from higher income taxes, higher VAT, higher petrol, cigarette and booze, higher cost in everything from clothing to eating out in the UK and many other European countries than you would have in the US. I believe as of yesterday's budget, another £4 Billion pounds are cut from the NHS, which would mean less service and longer waiting for the patients.! I'm not knocking the NHS. All I'm saying is, it is not free and that you are paying for it one way or the other, that's all.!

I never said it was free Kicks. I said it was free at the point of delivery. Of course we pay for it as well as all the taxes; we also pay National Insurance contributions. It is called compassionate society. It is only non-urgent stuff that you wait for. Personally, when the companies I worked for offered me private health plans I have always refused them on principle. Greed is nothing to be proud of.
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Postby Kikapu » Thu Mar 25, 2010 1:13 pm

YFred wrote:
Kikapu wrote:
YFred wrote:
Kikapu wrote:
YFred wrote:
Kikapu wrote:Now that the Obama's compressive Health Care Plan has become law of the land, no thanks to the Republicans, any and all praise will ONLY go to the Democrats for years to come, if in fact the Health Care Plan will benefit Americans as it was plan to do, just as the Social Security and Medicare has. This will be a huge political wave that the democrats can ride for many years to come, so how will the Republicans save themselves politically from such a fall out by them refusing to support Obama's Heath Care bill. Not ONE republican in the Senate or the House voted for this bill. Well, they may now end up having to support the Armenian Genocide bill that will be voted on by the Congress soon so not to be seen as "pro Genocide" if they do not support the Democrats, even though in general, there are just as many Republicans supporting the Armenian Genocide bill as Democrats. However, any Republican who does not vote on the AG bill, will not only be seen as anti Health Care for Americans, but also be seen as pro Genocide of the Armenians, as unfair as it may be with such labels, but that's politics for you. Therefore, I predict that the Armenian Genocide bill will pass in the Congress by a large margin when the bill comes up to be voted on in the near future.!

It would have been a fine thing if it was a health plan but it is not. It's a compalsory insurance system lining the pockets of insurance companies similar to our car insurance policies. What a shame.


It's is a plan to ensure that no one is left uninsured, denied insurance or dropped coverage for any reason, and at the same time the Health Care service remains private where one can have access to it right away, unlike where you may have to wait for many months to be treated as the case is in the UK for non life threatening illness or conditions. The government will provide financial help where needed just so that medical coverage is available to all, as the case is here in Switzerland. We too need to have private medical coverage for everyone and do not have a National Heath system, as the case is in many European countries.

With all its financial constraints, our NHS which is free at the point of delivery is the envy of the world. Couldn't US afford it? like hell. It was the big boys telling the president to get stuffed, and you know it. It is no good pretending otherwise Kicks. US Democracy? they can keep it.


Even many Brits take out private insurance coverage plans just so that they don't need to wait month at a time to be treated. I wouldn't exactly call the NHS free either, since to finance it comes mostly from higher income taxes, higher VAT, higher petrol, cigarette and booze, higher cost in everything from clothing to eating out in the UK and many other European countries than you would have in the US. I believe as of yesterday's budget, another £4 Billion pounds are cut from the NHS, which would mean less service and longer waiting for the patients.! I'm not knocking the NHS. All I'm saying is, it is not free and that you are paying for it one way or the other, that's all.!

I never said it was free Kicks. I said it was free at the point of delivery. Of course we pay for it as well as all the taxes; we also pay National Insurance contributions. It is called compassionate society. It is only non-urgent stuff that you wait for. Personally, when the companies I worked for offered me private health plans I have always refused them on principle. Greed is nothing to be proud of.


Fair enough, YFred.

Anyway, the purpose of my post was to point out as to what the Republicans might do in large or small numbers when the Armenian Genocide bill comes to the floor to be voted on in the congress soon.!
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Postby YFred » Thu Mar 25, 2010 3:09 pm

Kikapu wrote:
YFred wrote:
Kikapu wrote:
YFred wrote:
Kikapu wrote:
YFred wrote:
Kikapu wrote:Now that the Obama's compressive Health Care Plan has become law of the land, no thanks to the Republicans, any and all praise will ONLY go to the Democrats for years to come, if in fact the Health Care Plan will benefit Americans as it was plan to do, just as the Social Security and Medicare has. This will be a huge political wave that the democrats can ride for many years to come, so how will the Republicans save themselves politically from such a fall out by them refusing to support Obama's Heath Care bill. Not ONE republican in the Senate or the House voted for this bill. Well, they may now end up having to support the Armenian Genocide bill that will be voted on by the Congress soon so not to be seen as "pro Genocide" if they do not support the Democrats, even though in general, there are just as many Republicans supporting the Armenian Genocide bill as Democrats. However, any Republican who does not vote on the AG bill, will not only be seen as anti Health Care for Americans, but also be seen as pro Genocide of the Armenians, as unfair as it may be with such labels, but that's politics for you. Therefore, I predict that the Armenian Genocide bill will pass in the Congress by a large margin when the bill comes up to be voted on in the near future.!

It would have been a fine thing if it was a health plan but it is not. It's a compalsory insurance system lining the pockets of insurance companies similar to our car insurance policies. What a shame.


It's is a plan to ensure that no one is left uninsured, denied insurance or dropped coverage for any reason, and at the same time the Health Care service remains private where one can have access to it right away, unlike where you may have to wait for many months to be treated as the case is in the UK for non life threatening illness or conditions. The government will provide financial help where needed just so that medical coverage is available to all, as the case is here in Switzerland. We too need to have private medical coverage for everyone and do not have a National Heath system, as the case is in many European countries.

With all its financial constraints, our NHS which is free at the point of delivery is the envy of the world. Couldn't US afford it? like hell. It was the big boys telling the president to get stuffed, and you know it. It is no good pretending otherwise Kicks. US Democracy? they can keep it.


Even many Brits take out private insurance coverage plans just so that they don't need to wait month at a time to be treated. I wouldn't exactly call the NHS free either, since to finance it comes mostly from higher income taxes, higher VAT, higher petrol, cigarette and booze, higher cost in everything from clothing to eating out in the UK and many other European countries than you would have in the US. I believe as of yesterday's budget, another £4 Billion pounds are cut from the NHS, which would mean less service and longer waiting for the patients.! I'm not knocking the NHS. All I'm saying is, it is not free and that you are paying for it one way or the other, that's all.!

I never said it was free Kicks. I said it was free at the point of delivery. Of course we pay for it as well as all the taxes; we also pay National Insurance contributions. It is called compassionate society. It is only non-urgent stuff that you wait for. Personally, when the companies I worked for offered me private health plans I have always refused them on principle. Greed is nothing to be proud of.


Fair enough, YFred.

Anyway, the purpose of my post was to point out as to what the Republicans might do in large or small numbers when the Armenian Genocide bill comes to the floor to be voted on in the congress soon.!

Why should it make any difference? 99% of the yanks don't even know where Armenia is.
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Postby Kikapu » Thu Mar 25, 2010 3:16 pm

YFred wrote:
Kikapu wrote:
YFred wrote:
Kikapu wrote:
YFred wrote:
Kikapu wrote:
YFred wrote:
Kikapu wrote:Now that the Obama's compressive Health Care Plan has become law of the land, no thanks to the Republicans, any and all praise will ONLY go to the Democrats for years to come, if in fact the Health Care Plan will benefit Americans as it was plan to do, just as the Social Security and Medicare has. This will be a huge political wave that the democrats can ride for many years to come, so how will the Republicans save themselves politically from such a fall out by them refusing to support Obama's Heath Care bill. Not ONE republican in the Senate or the House voted for this bill. Well, they may now end up having to support the Armenian Genocide bill that will be voted on by the Congress soon so not to be seen as "pro Genocide" if they do not support the Democrats, even though in general, there are just as many Republicans supporting the Armenian Genocide bill as Democrats. However, any Republican who does not vote on the AG bill, will not only be seen as anti Health Care for Americans, but also be seen as pro Genocide of the Armenians, as unfair as it may be with such labels, but that's politics for you. Therefore, I predict that the Armenian Genocide bill will pass in the Congress by a large margin when the bill comes up to be voted on in the near future.!

It would have been a fine thing if it was a health plan but it is not. It's a compalsory insurance system lining the pockets of insurance companies similar to our car insurance policies. What a shame.


It's is a plan to ensure that no one is left uninsured, denied insurance or dropped coverage for any reason, and at the same time the Health Care service remains private where one can have access to it right away, unlike where you may have to wait for many months to be treated as the case is in the UK for non life threatening illness or conditions. The government will provide financial help where needed just so that medical coverage is available to all, as the case is here in Switzerland. We too need to have private medical coverage for everyone and do not have a National Heath system, as the case is in many European countries.

With all its financial constraints, our NHS which is free at the point of delivery is the envy of the world. Couldn't US afford it? like hell. It was the big boys telling the president to get stuffed, and you know it. It is no good pretending otherwise Kicks. US Democracy? they can keep it.


Even many Brits take out private insurance coverage plans just so that they don't need to wait month at a time to be treated. I wouldn't exactly call the NHS free either, since to finance it comes mostly from higher income taxes, higher VAT, higher petrol, cigarette and booze, higher cost in everything from clothing to eating out in the UK and many other European countries than you would have in the US. I believe as of yesterday's budget, another £4 Billion pounds are cut from the NHS, which would mean less service and longer waiting for the patients.! I'm not knocking the NHS. All I'm saying is, it is not free and that you are paying for it one way or the other, that's all.!

I never said it was free Kicks. I said it was free at the point of delivery. Of course we pay for it as well as all the taxes; we also pay National Insurance contributions. It is called compassionate society. It is only non-urgent stuff that you wait for. Personally, when the companies I worked for offered me private health plans I have always refused them on principle. Greed is nothing to be proud of.


Fair enough, YFred.

Anyway, the purpose of my post was to point out as to what the Republicans might do in large or small numbers when the Armenian Genocide bill comes to the floor to be voted on in the congress soon.!

Why should it make any difference? 99% of the yanks don't even know where Armenia is.


Politicians does know where it is and that's what matters on the AG bill. It is not a referendum by the people, so it doesn't matter what the people may know or do not know.!
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Postby YFred » Thu Mar 25, 2010 3:52 pm

Kikapu wrote:
YFred wrote:
Kikapu wrote:
YFred wrote:
Kikapu wrote:
YFred wrote:
Kikapu wrote:
YFred wrote:
Kikapu wrote:Now that the Obama's compressive Health Care Plan has become law of the land, no thanks to the Republicans, any and all praise will ONLY go to the Democrats for years to come, if in fact the Health Care Plan will benefit Americans as it was plan to do, just as the Social Security and Medicare has. This will be a huge political wave that the democrats can ride for many years to come, so how will the Republicans save themselves politically from such a fall out by them refusing to support Obama's Heath Care bill. Not ONE republican in the Senate or the House voted for this bill. Well, they may now end up having to support the Armenian Genocide bill that will be voted on by the Congress soon so not to be seen as "pro Genocide" if they do not support the Democrats, even though in general, there are just as many Republicans supporting the Armenian Genocide bill as Democrats. However, any Republican who does not vote on the AG bill, will not only be seen as anti Health Care for Americans, but also be seen as pro Genocide of the Armenians, as unfair as it may be with such labels, but that's politics for you. Therefore, I predict that the Armenian Genocide bill will pass in the Congress by a large margin when the bill comes up to be voted on in the near future.!

It would have been a fine thing if it was a health plan but it is not. It's a compalsory insurance system lining the pockets of insurance companies similar to our car insurance policies. What a shame.


It's is a plan to ensure that no one is left uninsured, denied insurance or dropped coverage for any reason, and at the same time the Health Care service remains private where one can have access to it right away, unlike where you may have to wait for many months to be treated as the case is in the UK for non life threatening illness or conditions. The government will provide financial help where needed just so that medical coverage is available to all, as the case is here in Switzerland. We too need to have private medical coverage for everyone and do not have a National Heath system, as the case is in many European countries.

With all its financial constraints, our NHS which is free at the point of delivery is the envy of the world. Couldn't US afford it? like hell. It was the big boys telling the president to get stuffed, and you know it. It is no good pretending otherwise Kicks. US Democracy? they can keep it.


Even many Brits take out private insurance coverage plans just so that they don't need to wait month at a time to be treated. I wouldn't exactly call the NHS free either, since to finance it comes mostly from higher income taxes, higher VAT, higher petrol, cigarette and booze, higher cost in everything from clothing to eating out in the UK and many other European countries than you would have in the US. I believe as of yesterday's budget, another £4 Billion pounds are cut from the NHS, which would mean less service and longer waiting for the patients.! I'm not knocking the NHS. All I'm saying is, it is not free and that you are paying for it one way or the other, that's all.!

I never said it was free Kicks. I said it was free at the point of delivery. Of course we pay for it as well as all the taxes; we also pay National Insurance contributions. It is called compassionate society. It is only non-urgent stuff that you wait for. Personally, when the companies I worked for offered me private health plans I have always refused them on principle. Greed is nothing to be proud of.


Fair enough, YFred.

Anyway, the purpose of my post was to point out as to what the Republicans might do in large or small numbers when the Armenian Genocide bill comes to the floor to be voted on in the congress soon.!

Why should it make any difference? 99% of the yanks don't even know where Armenia is.


Politicians does know where it is and that's what matters on the AG bill. It is not a referendum by the people, so it doesn't matter what the people may know or do not know.!

We are going around in circles with this one. Nobody has come up witn any info on how it may effect Turkey today.

Anyway, what about this idea that the democratically elected presindent of the US cannot get through a bill unless it lines the pockets of the insurance companies. In your words, he can't even screw his friends? What chance has he got with his enemies?
Where does that leave the greatest piece loving nation on earth Kicks?
Is it really democratic?
Who's interests is the elected president serving?
The public who voted for him?
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Postby denizaksulu » Thu Mar 25, 2010 4:07 pm

YFred wrote:
Kikapu wrote:
YFred wrote:
Kikapu wrote:
YFred wrote:
Kikapu wrote:
YFred wrote:
Kikapu wrote:
YFred wrote:
Kikapu wrote:Now that the Obama's compressive Health Care Plan has become law of the land, no thanks to the Republicans, any and all praise will ONLY go to the Democrats for years to come, if in fact the Health Care Plan will benefit Americans as it was plan to do, just as the Social Security and Medicare has. This will be a huge political wave that the democrats can ride for many years to come, so how will the Republicans save themselves politically from such a fall out by them refusing to support Obama's Heath Care bill. Not ONE republican in the Senate or the House voted for this bill. Well, they may now end up having to support the Armenian Genocide bill that will be voted on by the Congress soon so not to be seen as "pro Genocide" if they do not support the Democrats, even though in general, there are just as many Republicans supporting the Armenian Genocide bill as Democrats. However, any Republican who does not vote on the AG bill, will not only be seen as anti Health Care for Americans, but also be seen as pro Genocide of the Armenians, as unfair as it may be with such labels, but that's politics for you. Therefore, I predict that the Armenian Genocide bill will pass in the Congress by a large margin when the bill comes up to be voted on in the near future.!

It would have been a fine thing if it was a health plan but it is not. It's a compalsory insurance system lining the pockets of insurance companies similar to our car insurance policies. What a shame.


It's is a plan to ensure that no one is left uninsured, denied insurance or dropped coverage for any reason, and at the same time the Health Care service remains private where one can have access to it right away, unlike where you may have to wait for many months to be treated as the case is in the UK for non life threatening illness or conditions. The government will provide financial help where needed just so that medical coverage is available to all, as the case is here in Switzerland. We too need to have private medical coverage for everyone and do not have a National Heath system, as the case is in many European countries.

With all its financial constraints, our NHS which is free at the point of delivery is the envy of the world. Couldn't US afford it? like hell. It was the big boys telling the president to get stuffed, and you know it. It is no good pretending otherwise Kicks. US Democracy? they can keep it.


Even many Brits take out private insurance coverage plans just so that they don't need to wait month at a time to be treated. I wouldn't exactly call the NHS free either, since to finance it comes mostly from higher income taxes, higher VAT, higher petrol, cigarette and booze, higher cost in everything from clothing to eating out in the UK and many other European countries than you would have in the US. I believe as of yesterday's budget, another £4 Billion pounds are cut from the NHS, which would mean less service and longer waiting for the patients.! I'm not knocking the NHS. All I'm saying is, it is not free and that you are paying for it one way or the other, that's all.!

I never said it was free Kicks. I said it was free at the point of delivery. Of course we pay for it as well as all the taxes; we also pay National Insurance contributions. It is called compassionate society. It is only non-urgent stuff that you wait for. Personally, when the companies I worked for offered me private health plans I have always refused them on principle. Greed is nothing to be proud of.


Fair enough, YFred.

Anyway, the purpose of my post was to point out as to what the Republicans might do in large or small numbers when the Armenian Genocide bill comes to the floor to be voted on in the congress soon.!

Why should it make any difference? 99% of the yanks don't even know where Armenia is.


Politicians does know where it is and that's what matters on the AG bill. It is not a referendum by the people, so it doesn't matter what the people may know or do not know.!

We are going around in circles with this one. Nobody has come up witn any info on how it may effect Turkey today.

Anyway, what about this idea that the democratically elected presindent of the US cannot get through a bill unless it lines the pockets of the insurance companies. In your words, he can't even screw his friends? What chance has he got with his enemies?
Where does that leave the greatest piece loving nation on earth Kicks?
Is it really democratic?
Who's interests is the elected president serving?
The public who voted for him?



If Turkey recognised the deaths of these Armenians as 'genocide', Turkeys pride apart, the next step would be compensation to the descendants of these people - dare I say the way Germany has paid compensation for the descedants of the holocaust victims.
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Postby Kikapu » Thu Mar 25, 2010 7:49 pm

YFred wrote:
Kikapu wrote:
YFred wrote:
Kikapu wrote:
YFred wrote:
Kikapu wrote:
YFred wrote:
Kikapu wrote:
YFred wrote:
Kikapu wrote:Now that the Obama's compressive Health Care Plan has become law of the land, no thanks to the Republicans, any and all praise will ONLY go to the Democrats for years to come, if in fact the Health Care Plan will benefit Americans as it was plan to do, just as the Social Security and Medicare has. This will be a huge political wave that the democrats can ride for many years to come, so how will the Republicans save themselves politically from such a fall out by them refusing to support Obama's Heath Care bill. Not ONE republican in the Senate or the House voted for this bill. Well, they may now end up having to support the Armenian Genocide bill that will be voted on by the Congress soon so not to be seen as "pro Genocide" if they do not support the Democrats, even though in general, there are just as many Republicans supporting the Armenian Genocide bill as Democrats. However, any Republican who does not vote on the AG bill, will not only be seen as anti Health Care for Americans, but also be seen as pro Genocide of the Armenians, as unfair as it may be with such labels, but that's politics for you. Therefore, I predict that the Armenian Genocide bill will pass in the Congress by a large margin when the bill comes up to be voted on in the near future.!

It would have been a fine thing if it was a health plan but it is not. It's a compalsory insurance system lining the pockets of insurance companies similar to our car insurance policies. What a shame.


It's is a plan to ensure that no one is left uninsured, denied insurance or dropped coverage for any reason, and at the same time the Health Care service remains private where one can have access to it right away, unlike where you may have to wait for many months to be treated as the case is in the UK for non life threatening illness or conditions. The government will provide financial help where needed just so that medical coverage is available to all, as the case is here in Switzerland. We too need to have private medical coverage for everyone and do not have a National Heath system, as the case is in many European countries.

With all its financial constraints, our NHS which is free at the point of delivery is the envy of the world. Couldn't US afford it? like hell. It was the big boys telling the president to get stuffed, and you know it. It is no good pretending otherwise Kicks. US Democracy? they can keep it.


Even many Brits take out private insurance coverage plans just so that they don't need to wait month at a time to be treated. I wouldn't exactly call the NHS free either, since to finance it comes mostly from higher income taxes, higher VAT, higher petrol, cigarette and booze, higher cost in everything from clothing to eating out in the UK and many other European countries than you would have in the US. I believe as of yesterday's budget, another £4 Billion pounds are cut from the NHS, which would mean less service and longer waiting for the patients.! I'm not knocking the NHS. All I'm saying is, it is not free and that you are paying for it one way or the other, that's all.!

I never said it was free Kicks. I said it was free at the point of delivery. Of course we pay for it as well as all the taxes; we also pay National Insurance contributions. It is called compassionate society. It is only non-urgent stuff that you wait for. Personally, when the companies I worked for offered me private health plans I have always refused them on principle. Greed is nothing to be proud of.


Fair enough, YFred.

Anyway, the purpose of my post was to point out as to what the Republicans might do in large or small numbers when the Armenian Genocide bill comes to the floor to be voted on in the congress soon.!

Why should it make any difference? 99% of the yanks don't even know where Armenia is.


Politicians does know where it is and that's what matters on the AG bill. It is not a referendum by the people, so it doesn't matter what the people may know or do not know.!

We are going around in circles with this one. Nobody has come up witn any info on how it may effect Turkey today.

Anyway, what about this idea that the democratically elected presindent of the US cannot get through a bill unless it lines the pockets of the insurance companies. In your words, he can't even screw his friends? What chance has he got with his enemies?
Where does that leave the greatest piece loving nation on earth Kicks?
Is it really democratic?
Who's interests is the elected president serving?
The public who voted for him?


In True Democracy there is a process that any legislation or bill needs to go through, that's why democratically elected President cannot just rubber stamp anything as he wishes, as a Dictator would, so I think you are getting your Democracy and Dictatorships all confused. The point is, this bill helps a lot of people which Obama promised to help, and he has much to the dismay of the Republicans. US is still a Democracy and a Capitalist system and not a Dictatorship with Communism. Free market and Democracy was once again demonstrated without violating anyone's Democratic or Constitutional rights. Imagine if the Republicans had a "veto power" over any bill as they are now the minority. Nothing would get done for the American people as they would have killed this bill over a year ago. I hope you have taken note of that too, that majority rules in a True Democracy which will benefit all Americans and not just the Democrats.
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Postby Viewpoint » Thu Mar 25, 2010 8:41 pm

So it doesnt matter that the majority are gcs who do not have our best interests at heart.
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Postby miltiades » Thu Mar 25, 2010 8:53 pm

Viewpoint wrote:So it doesnt matter that the majority are gcs who do not have our best interests at heart.

That the G/Cs are the majority no one can deny but that the TRUE CYPRIOTS ARE BY FAR THE BIGEST MAJORITY IS UNDENIABLE TOO !
VP , you have never been a Cypriot first unlike Kikapu and many many more , they are in the majority while you and the likely minded are ..foreigners !
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