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[denizaksulu]

I have a very good Turkish friend in the US, who couple of years ago accepted the slaughter of the Armenians by then the Ottomans, but he did not want to call it genocide, just because that use of the word was only created after WWII, therefore, since the word "Genocide" was not in our vocabulary at the time of this atrocities taking place, then the word Genocide should not be used today according to him.!

At that time, his wife and I rolled our eyes as if to say, .....You What.???

But does he have a point with his explanation, however.???

Hey its the undercover GC

Ok I really dont know much about this so maybe someone can answer a few questions for me:

1 what was the population (numbers) of armenians in the ottoman empire the last time a census was taken before WW1

2. the Armenia diaspora now is mainly from the survivors of the 'genocide' is that right? what is the size of the diaspora population?

3. Does the figures that you correlate between one and two match up?

4. what is the proof that this was a systematic attempt to kill all the Armenians?

5. Why are the Armenian archives not open?

Idiots come, Idiots go.!

It's idiots coming again.!

I hope you are not implying DTA is....

'Bilmemek ayıp değil sormamak ayıptır'.

I expected you to give a learned response Kiks.

Now listen here you old folks. Can we get this phrase right for once.
Bilmemek ayıp değil, bilmeyip de sormamak ayıpdır. Roughly transalted "is not knowing is not a crime, but not knowing and not asking is".

You had to go to Trahones Uni to learn that one properly, from Behaeddin Bey?

I stayed in Trahona for two years (orta okul).

Correct the English translation please, otherwis Mr Bahaeddin will turn in his grave.

[YFred]

I have a very good Turkish friend in the US, who couple of years ago accepted the slaughter of the Armenians by then the Ottomans, but he did not want to call it genocide, just because that use of the word was only created after WWII, therefore, since the word "Genocide" was not in our vocabulary at the time of this atrocities taking place, then the word Genocide should not be used today according to him.!

At that time, his wife and I rolled our eyes as if to say, .....You What.???

But does he have a point with his explanation, however.???

Hey its the undercover GC

Ok I really dont know much about this so maybe someone can answer a few questions for me:

1 what was the population (numbers) of armenians in the ottoman empire the last time a census was taken before WW1

2. the Armenia diaspora now is mainly from the survivors of the 'genocide' is that right? what is the size of the diaspora population?

3. Does the figures that you correlate between one and two match up?

4. what is the proof that this was a systematic attempt to kill all the Armenians?

5. Why are the Armenian archives not open?

Idiots come, Idiots go.!

It's idiots coming again.!

I hope you are not implying DTA is....

'Bilmemek ayıp değil sormamak ayıptır'.

I expected you to give a learned response Kiks.

Now listen here you old folks. Can we get this phrase right for once.
Bilmemek ayıp değil, bilmeyip de sormamak ayıpdır. Roughly transalted "is not knowing is not a crime, but not knowing and not asking is".

You had to go to Trahones Uni to learn that one properly, from Behaeddin Bey?

I stayed in Trahona for two years (orta okul).

Correct the English translation please, otherwis Mr Bahaeddin will turn in his grave.

Please allow me to enlighten you, old man. There are two Trahona's in Cyprus. One just outside Nicosia which is a population centre and another is just a piece of land left side of Larnaka Lefkosha road on the left hand side just outside of Lurucina, where my father grew most of his crops. So please let us not confuse the two. Our one is called Trahones and Mr Behaeddin bey has some time to go before he can turn in his grave.
If you don't believe me I have a link.


http://www.davidson.edu/academic/classi ... /site.html

[denizaksulu]

I can’t help feeling very bothered that the world’s most criminal nation has the gal to accuse others of genocide; not that I do not support the Armenian plight, but the US is responsible for more genocides than the rest of the planet put together!

I would like to see MORE PEOPLE stand up and condemn the US for the non-stop atrocities being committed against many nations and more recently against Iraq (1.5 million Iraqis dead), Afghanistan, Pakistan, Yemen, and even threatening to strike Iran!

gall?

[denizaksulu]

Agreed with the above post.

[denizaksulu]

I have a very good Turkish friend in the US, who couple of years ago accepted the slaughter of the Armenians by then the Ottomans, but he did not want to call it genocide, just because that use of the word was only created after WWII, therefore, since the word "Genocide" was not in our vocabulary at the time of this atrocities taking place, then the word Genocide should not be used today according to him.!

At that time, his wife and I rolled our eyes as if to say, .....You What.???

But does he have a point with his explanation, however.???

Hey its the undercover GC

Ok I really dont know much about this so maybe someone can answer a few questions for me:

1 what was the population (numbers) of armenians in the ottoman empire the last time a census was taken before WW1

2. the Armenia diaspora now is mainly from the survivors of the 'genocide' is that right? what is the size of the diaspora population?

3. Does the figures that you correlate between one and two match up?

4. what is the proof that this was a systematic attempt to kill all the Armenians?

5. Why are the Armenian archives not open?

Idiots come, Idiots go.!

It's idiots coming again.!

I hope you are not implying DTA is....

'Bilmemek ayıp değil sormamak ayıptır'.

I expected you to give a learned response Kiks.

Now listen here you old folks. Can we get this phrase right for once.
Bilmemek ayıp değil, bilmeyip de sormamak ayıpdır. Roughly transalted "is not knowing is not a crime, but not knowing and not asking is".

You had to go to Trahones Uni to learn that one properly, from Behaeddin Bey?

I stayed in Trahona for two years (orta okul).

Correct the English translation please, otherwis Mr Bahaeddin will turn in his grave.

Please allow me to enlighten you, old man. There are two Trahona's in Cyprus. One just outside Nicosia which is a population centre and another is just a piece of land left side of Larnaka Lefkosha road on the left hand side just outside of Lurucina, where my father grew most of his crops. So please let us not confuse the two. Our one is called Trahones and Mr Behaeddin bey has some time to go before he can turn in his grave.
If you don't believe me I have a link.


http://www.davidson.edu/academic/classi ... /site.html

I must be really 'unlucky' for not ever having been anywhere near to Lurucina, so I only know of the famous Trahona, north of Neapolis/Yenishehir.

[denizaksulu]

May Bahaeddin Bey, 'long live'/ çok yaşasın. I am sure he is a worthy teacher. I hope his students are too.

[Khan]

What right does one nations law makers have to interpret and past decrees regarding the past of another nation? All those who are not influenced by the Armenian lobby with sane minds know that the situation is simply ridicolous for the United States. Should the Turkish parliament now discuss the United States persecution of native Americans, or the French massacres in Algeria?

[Get Real!]

I can’t help feeling very bothered that the world’s most criminal nation has the gal to accuse others of genocide; not that I do not support the Armenian plight, but the US is responsible for more genocides than the rest of the planet put together!

I would like to see MORE PEOPLE stand up and condemn the US for the non-stop atrocities being committed against many nations and more recently against Iraq (1.5 million Iraqis dead), Afghanistan, Pakistan, Yemen, and even threatening to strike Iran!

gall?

Sorry...

[denizaksulu]

What right does one nations law makers have to interpret and past decrees regarding the past of another nation? All those who are not influenced by the Armenian lobby with sane minds know that the situation is simply ridicolous for the United States. Should the Turkish parliament now discuss the United States persecution of native Americans, or the French massacres in Algeria?

Hmmm. I read 'Bury my heart at wounded Knee'. It is so similar to the Armenian 'death marches'.

Why not? GR the chief prosecutor on behalf of the Native Americans.

[denizaksulu]

I can’t help feeling very bothered that the world’s most criminal nation has the gal to accuse others of genocide; not that I do not support the Armenian plight, but the US is responsible for more genocides than the rest of the planet put together!

I would like to see MORE PEOPLE stand up and condemn the US for the non-stop atrocities being committed against many nations and more recently against Iraq (1.5 million Iraqis dead), Afghanistan, Pakistan, Yemen, and even threatening to strike Iran!

gall?

Sorry...

Oh, aw'right then, only for this n'th time