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Armenian Genocide

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Postby Kikapu » Fri Mar 05, 2010 12:13 pm

Bananiot wrote:Weren't the dreaded Americans conspiring against us? If we believe Piratis and the rest of the bash patriots, the Americans must be employing another one of their dirty tricks in order to break our spirit. We must condemn the US congressional panel's resolution.


:? :? :?

As liberal, Bananiot, shouldn't you be embracing the actions taken by the US congressional panel against Turkey.??
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Postby Kikapu » Fri Mar 05, 2010 12:24 pm

I have a very good Turkish friend in the US, who couple of years ago accepted the slaughter of the Armenians by then the Ottomans, but he did not want to call it genocide, just because that use of the word was only created after WWII, therefore, since the word "Genocide" was not in our vocabulary at the time of this atrocities taking place, then the word Genocide should not be used today according to him.!

At that time, his wife and I rolled our eyes as if to say, .....You What.??? :lol:

But does he have a point with his explanation, however.???
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Postby DTA » Fri Mar 05, 2010 1:39 pm

Kikapu wrote:I have a very good Turkish friend in the US, who couple of years ago accepted the slaughter of the Armenians by then the Ottomans, but he did not want to call it genocide, just because that use of the word was only created after WWII, therefore, since the word "Genocide" was not in our vocabulary at the time of this atrocities taking place, then the word Genocide should not be used today according to him.!

At that time, his wife and I rolled our eyes as if to say, .....You What.??? :lol:

But does he have a point with his explanation, however.???


Hey its the undercover GC :wink:

Ok I really dont know much about this so maybe someone can answer a few questions for me:

1 what was the population (numbers) of armenians in the ottoman empire the last time a census was taken before WW1

2. the Armenia diaspora now is mainly from the survivors of the 'genocide' is that right? what is the size of the diaspora population?

3. Does the figures that you correlate between one and two match up?

4. what is the proof that this was a systematic attempt to kill all the Armenians?

5. Why are the Armenian archives not open?
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Postby Kikapu » Fri Mar 05, 2010 2:04 pm

DTA wrote:
Kikapu wrote:I have a very good Turkish friend in the US, who couple of years ago accepted the slaughter of the Armenians by then the Ottomans, but he did not want to call it genocide, just because that use of the word was only created after WWII, therefore, since the word "Genocide" was not in our vocabulary at the time of this atrocities taking place, then the word Genocide should not be used today according to him.!

At that time, his wife and I rolled our eyes as if to say, .....You What.??? :lol:

But does he have a point with his explanation, however.???


Hey its the undercover GC :wink:

Ok I really dont know much about this so maybe someone can answer a few questions for me:

1 what was the population (numbers) of armenians in the ottoman empire the last time a census was taken before WW1

2. the Armenia diaspora now is mainly from the survivors of the 'genocide' is that right? what is the size of the diaspora population?

3. Does the figures that you correlate between one and two match up?

4. what is the proof that this was a systematic attempt to kill all the Armenians?

5. Why are the Armenian archives not open?


Idiots come, Idiots go.!

It's idiots coming again.! :lol:
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Postby YFred » Fri Mar 05, 2010 2:15 pm

Kikapu wrote:
DTA wrote:
Kikapu wrote:I have a very good Turkish friend in the US, who couple of years ago accepted the slaughter of the Armenians by then the Ottomans, but he did not want to call it genocide, just because that use of the word was only created after WWII, therefore, since the word "Genocide" was not in our vocabulary at the time of this atrocities taking place, then the word Genocide should not be used today according to him.!

At that time, his wife and I rolled our eyes as if to say, .....You What.??? :lol:

But does he have a point with his explanation, however.???


Hey its the undercover GC :wink:

Ok I really dont know much about this so maybe someone can answer a few questions for me:

1 what was the population (numbers) of armenians in the ottoman empire the last time a census was taken before WW1

2. the Armenia diaspora now is mainly from the survivors of the 'genocide' is that right? what is the size of the diaspora population?

3. Does the figures that you correlate between one and two match up?

4. what is the proof that this was a systematic attempt to kill all the Armenians?

5. Why are the Armenian archives not open?


Idiots come, Idiots go.!

It's idiots coming again.! :lol:

Kicks baby, there many ways of doing what you do, but the way you do it is not one of them. You must try harder.
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Postby denizaksulu » Fri Mar 05, 2010 2:15 pm

Kikapu wrote:
DTA wrote:
Kikapu wrote:I have a very good Turkish friend in the US, who couple of years ago accepted the slaughter of the Armenians by then the Ottomans, but he did not want to call it genocide, just because that use of the word was only created after WWII, therefore, since the word "Genocide" was not in our vocabulary at the time of this atrocities taking place, then the word Genocide should not be used today according to him.!

At that time, his wife and I rolled our eyes as if to say, .....You What.??? :lol:

But does he have a point with his explanation, however.???


Hey its the undercover GC :wink:

Ok I really dont know much about this so maybe someone can answer a few questions for me:

1 what was the population (numbers) of armenians in the ottoman empire the last time a census was taken before WW1

2. the Armenia diaspora now is mainly from the survivors of the 'genocide' is that right? what is the size of the diaspora population?

3. Does the figures that you correlate between one and two match up?

4. what is the proof that this was a systematic attempt to kill all the Armenians?

5. Why are the Armenian archives not open?


Idiots come, Idiots go.!

It's idiots coming again.! :lol:


I hope you are not implying DTA is....

'Bilmemek ayıp değil sormamak ayıptır'.

I expected you to give a learned response Kiks. :?
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Re: Armenian Genocide

Postby vaughanwilliams » Fri Mar 05, 2010 2:18 pm

GreekForumer wrote:
aussieturk wrote:The truth can be distorted and there are always two sides to every story.


Everybody knows the Turkish Government drafted hundreds of thousands of Armenian males into the unarmed labour battalions. Some survivors of these battalions say that they were worked and starved to death. Others say they were marched out of town where no witness could see or hear..... and then massacred by Turkish troops under the command of Turkish officers. These survivors can only account for the fate of their own units. But what about the other thousands of Armenian males. What was their fate ?

The Armenians say that because the Turkish government never discharged any of these Armenian men from the Army at the end of the World War, they must have met the same fate as the survivors witnessed.

So aussieturk, the Armenians say all of these draftees must have been murdered because they were never seen again. Is that true ? How many Armenians survived the labour battalions ? Of those hundreds of thousands, how many Armenians did the Turkish army discharge at the end of the war ? What's your side of this story ?.


"Some survivors of these battalions say that they were worked and starved to death."
Surely a non-sequitur? How could a survivor have been worked to death? :shock:
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Postby YFred » Fri Mar 05, 2010 2:19 pm

denizaksulu wrote:
Kikapu wrote:
DTA wrote:
Kikapu wrote:I have a very good Turkish friend in the US, who couple of years ago accepted the slaughter of the Armenians by then the Ottomans, but he did not want to call it genocide, just because that use of the word was only created after WWII, therefore, since the word "Genocide" was not in our vocabulary at the time of this atrocities taking place, then the word Genocide should not be used today according to him.!

At that time, his wife and I rolled our eyes as if to say, .....You What.??? :lol:

But does he have a point with his explanation, however.???


Hey its the undercover GC :wink:

Ok I really dont know much about this so maybe someone can answer a few questions for me:

1 what was the population (numbers) of armenians in the ottoman empire the last time a census was taken before WW1

2. the Armenia diaspora now is mainly from the survivors of the 'genocide' is that right? what is the size of the diaspora population?

3. Does the figures that you correlate between one and two match up?

4. what is the proof that this was a systematic attempt to kill all the Armenians?

5. Why are the Armenian archives not open?


Idiots come, Idiots go.!

It's idiots coming again.! :lol:


I hope you are not implying DTA is....

'Bilmemek ayıp değil sormamak ayıptır'.

I expected you to give a learned response Kiks. :?

Now listen here you old folks. Can we get this phrase right for once.
Bilmemek ayıp değil, bilmeyip de sormamak ayıpdır. Roughly transalted is "not knowing is not a crime, but not knowing and not asking is".
:lol: :lol:
You had to go to Trahones Uni to learn that one properly, from Behaeddin Bey? :wink:
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Postby runaway » Fri Mar 05, 2010 2:27 pm

DTA wrote:
Kikapu wrote:I have a very good Turkish friend in the US, who couple of years ago accepted the slaughter of the Armenians by then the Ottomans, but he did not want to call it genocide, just because that use of the word was only created after WWII, therefore, since the word "Genocide" was not in our vocabulary at the time of this atrocities taking place, then the word Genocide should not be used today according to him.!

At that time, his wife and I rolled our eyes as if to say, .....You What.??? :lol:

But does he have a point with his explanation, however.???


Hey its the undercover GC :wink:

Ok I really dont know much about this so maybe someone can answer a few questions for me:

1 what was the population (numbers) of armenians in the ottoman empire the last time a census was taken before WW1

2. the Armenia diaspora now is mainly from the survivors of the 'genocide' is that right? what is the size of the diaspora population?

3. Does the figures that you correlate between one and two match up?

4. what is the proof that this was a systematic attempt to kill all the Armenians?

5. Why are the Armenian archives not open?


Do you really expect an answer from a south cypriot?
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Postby Get Real! » Fri Mar 05, 2010 2:27 pm

I can’t help feeling very bothered that the world’s most criminal nation has the gal to accuse others of genocide; not that I do not support the Armenian plight, but the US is responsible for more genocides than the rest of the planet put together!

I would like to see MORE PEOPLE stand up and condemn the US for the non-stop atrocities being committed against many nations and more recently against Iraq (1.5 million Iraqis dead), Afghanistan, Pakistan, Yemen, and even threatening to strike Iran!
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