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[YFred]

This may well do to Turkey what turned Israel around. They can stop depending on USA and develop their own systems. God help us all then.

[Malapapa]

It was not Turkey that did it, it was the Ottomans.

The Lausanne transition from “Ottoman Empire” to “Turkey” was just…

1. A change of the label.
2. A change of territorial arrangements.
3. A change of government.

…but the masses were pretty much the same… it’s the same people that continued with “Turkey”.

Well alright then, the treaty was a waste of time. Perhaps it should be withdrawn and let the current armies sort out the current Turkish Armenian problem with Karabag then? And the Aegean Islands and we might as well throw Cyprus in the mix as you can't wait to take on the Turks.
Would you like that?

We are taking on the Turks, dimwit. Every day we're finding new ways to bring the giant down. Only we're not dirtying our hands.

Who is bein a dimwit Mal, after 35 years of court cases, what effect has it had on Turkey.

Errr, she's had to fork out a small fortune in compenation already... with many more billions pending. The biggy being the US class action and the Church of Cyprus action in the ECHR.

Turkey's position is getting stronger by the minute, with the full whitehouse backing.

Errr, the Turkish ambassador to the US is about to be recalled.

What is the total sum paid so far?

Millions... and Turkey always pays her ECHR bills in full and on time.

Compared to if there was an agreement at this point. You'll find there is huge difference.
The politics side is for local consumption, I would not take too much note of that.

YFred, I don't too much note of what you say because most of the time you spout the first bit of nonsense that comes in your head.

[ARMENIAN CYPRIOT]

It was not Turkey that did it, it was the Ottomans.

The Lausanne transition from “Ottoman Empire” to “Turkey” was just…

1. A change of the label.
2. A change of territorial arrangements.
3. A change of government.

…but the masses were pretty much the same… it’s the same people that continued with “Turkey”.

Well alright then, the treaty was a waste of time. Perhaps it should be withdrawn and let the current armies sort out the current Turkish Armenian problem with Karabag then? And the Aegean Islands and we might as well throw Cyprus in the mix as you can't wait to take on the Turks.
Would you like that?

Bro Turkey did threaten war and Russia plus Belarus Threatened too invade Turkey and the half Kurdish bastard Turgat Ozal kept his mouth closed and just watched Armenia occuppy 20 percent of Azerbijian. Since Armenia and those two nations have a military alliance plus troops on the border with Turkey I cant see Turkey going that route plus the leadership is day and night compared too the Ozal era.

[kurupetos]

This may well do to Turkey what turned Israel around. They can stop depending on USA and develop their own systems. God help us all then.

Bollocks, Turkey cannot develop her own toilet paper. And Turks will need a lot of toilet paper if Americans dump them.

[Epiktitos]

What I am saying is these deaths occurred during war. The number of casualties during WW1 for the Ottomans were:

Military - 771,844
Civilians - 2,150,000 - that is a lot of innocent people.

[...snip...]

All stats can be found here of all nations losses:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/World_War_ ... statistics

Yes it most certainly is a lot of innocent people.

You really are a turkey. Have a look at the footnote in that table in the Wikipedia article for the civilian casualties in the ottoman empire:

Ottoman civilian deaths during World War I were 2,150,000 [36] [16]. Civilian losses were caused by famine, disease which resulted in the deaths of about 1.5 million Armenians.[28]

So of your 2.15 million civilian casualties, 1.5 million were Armenians killed by the ottomans themselves.

Class dismissed!

Where has this aussieturd gone? You seemed to be so interested in this thread up until this point. Any further contributions in light of the recent resolution by the US Congress' House Committee on Foreign Affairs?

[Bananiot]

Weren't the dreaded Americans conspiring against us? If we believe Piratis and the rest of the bash patriots, the Americans must be employing another one of their dirty tricks in order to break our spirit. We must condemn the US congressional panel's resolution.

[runaway]

Long live the Republic of Nagorno-Karabakh

And take the 50.000 hungry armenian hayvans with you. They are not welcome here. Illegal workers out and Istanbul-yerevan flights down nowwwwwww

[aussieturk]

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/americas/8550765.stm

US Congress panel accuses Turkey of Armenian 'genocide'

Hundreds of thousands of Armenians died in 1915, when they were deported en masse from eastern Anatolia by the Ottoman Empire. .

All true, but not a genocide, it was all part of War. Over 700,000 Ottoman soldiers also died in that war, plus over a million citizens.

[aussieturk]

What I am saying is these deaths occurred during war. The number of casualties during WW1 for the Ottomans were:

Military - 771,844
Civilians - 2,150,000 - that is a lot of innocent people.

[...snip...]

All stats can be found here of all nations losses:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/World_War_ ... statistics

Yes it most certainly is a lot of innocent people.

Ottoman civilian deaths during World War I were 2,150,000 [36] [16]. Civilian losses were caused by famine, disease which resulted in the deaths of about 1.5 million Armenians.[28]

So of your 2.15 million civilian casualties, 1.5 million were Armenians killed by the ottomans themselves.

Class dismissed!

Where has this aussieturd gone? You seemed to be so interested in this thread up until this point. Any further contributions in light of the recent resolution by the US Congress' House Committee on Foreign Affairs?

Typical GC on this forum, only know how to throw insults and not argue with some civility, and you call Turks Barbarian, my god!!!

[Naggie]

Speaking of civilised debates, here's an interesting angle from on of the liberal world's most respected papers:

http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree ... de-us-vote

Objectivity is impossible, but there seems little doubt that almost every country bar Turkey sees their actions as defining genocide. The crux of the issue is whether to abandon morality and play the realpolitik game, where Turkey is an important strategic asset to the world. It seems even the US is deciding, at least for now, that morals come first.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2010/ma ... or-armenia

I do feel sorry for Turkey, who are making real efforts to become progressive and yet are constantly being haunted by their past. I guess it raises an interesting question as to what point a country can be judged synchronically rather than diachronically.