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[YFred]

Unlike Piratis, who seems to think that “you go there and we go here” policies (BBF/BBC/etc) is the solution, I’m convinced that “Turkish Cypriots” can NEVER blend in with the indigenous Cypriots in any way or form, so I for one am not prepared to make any special arrangements for them.

Turkey will ALWAYS be a constant problem to Cyprus unless she is militarily confronted, which will result in the loss of many lives but treaties will then be established to force Turkey to (1)TAKE HER PEOPLE back to where they belong, and (2) respect the indigenous people here and their homeland.

There is no other solution if the indigenous people of Cyprus are the priority as they should be.

And what if the next military confrontation with Turkey results in even greater catastrophy for the "indigenous Cypriots" as you call them...Who will take the responsibility for that??? YOU???

I’d rather die fighting taking out plenty of Turks in the process, than allow them the gradual but certain strangulation of Cyprus and her people.

I don’t just think about today or the next ten years, but what will be happening on Cyprus in 50 or 100 years time to our children and unless we do something drastic today Turkification is guaranteed!

You are a brainwashed twit. If it's death you are after, it can be arranged, but what is this selfishness of taking others with you all about. How bloody selfish can you get.

Some time ago,Americans devised a fail-safe way of saving the Vietnamees from communism...they killed as many of them as they could...GR seems to be following in the Americans' footsteps...

It seems that is the same plan they implemented in Iraq and Afghanistan. Will they ever learn.

[BirKibrisli]

You got it in REVERSE. I hope you made that comment before thinking about it too much, otherwise your IQ must be quite low.

If the TCs who are the 18% of the population keep the 29% of the land, then in order for those TCs to be the majority in that 29% it requires that:
(1) all TCs stay within that 29%.
(2) that not all GCs return to their homes.

GCs have been the 82% majority in all parts of Cyprus. The 29% of 82% is almost 24%. So if all GC refugees would return to their homes then the GCs would be the majority in the "TC state" as well, even if every single TC stayed in the "TC state".

On the other hand the 18% of 82% is less than 15%. So even if all refugees return to that 18% State, the TCs can still be the majority in it, even if some of them choose to live in the "GC state".

As far as "fitting" goes, they will fit even easier since the population density will not be any higher than what you have now with the 100s of thousands of Settlers and the 40.000 Turkish troops.

So cut the lame excuses Bir. YOU are one who doesn't want GCs and TCs to live together and who wants partition. The ultimate in living together is a unitary state with no kind of separation and segregation.

But "living together" is not what you want. What you want is to Turkify as much of Cyprus as possible.

You are right Piratis...I do sufer from a low IQ...I am after all a Turkish Cypriot...You have finally worked me out...I want to Turkify as much of Cyprus as possible...Given that your IQ is so high,why did it take you all this time to figure that out???

[Piratis]

Unlike Piratis, who seems to think that “you go there and we go here” policies (BBF/BBC/etc) is the solution, I’m convinced that “Turkish Cypriots” can NEVER blend in with the indigenous Cypriots in any way or form, so I for one am not prepared to make any special arrangements for them.

Turkey will ALWAYS be a constant problem to Cyprus unless she is militarily confronted, which will result in the loss of many lives but treaties will then be established to force Turkey to (1)TAKE HER PEOPLE back to where they belong, and (2) respect the indigenous people here and their homeland.

There is no other solution if the indigenous people of Cyprus are the priority as they should be.

And what if the next military confrontation with Turkey results in even greater catastrophy for the "indigenous Cypriots" as you call them...Who will take the responsibility for that??? YOU???

I’d rather die fighting taking out plenty of Turks in the process, than allow them the gradual but certain strangulation of Cyprus and her people.

I don’t just think about today or the next ten years, but what will be happening on Cyprus in 50 or 100 years time to our children and unless we do something drastic today Turkification is guaranteed!

You are a brainwashed twit. If it's death you are after, it can be arranged, but what is this selfishness of taking others with you all about. How bloody selfish can you get.

Some time ago,Americans devised a fail-safe way of saving the Vietnamees from communism...they killed as many of them as they could...GR seems to be following in the Americans' footsteps...

Again you got in reverse. The Americans were the foreign invaders in Vietnam, just like the Turks are the foreign invaders in Cyprus.

The Cypriot people have every right to fight against the foreign invaders to liberate their own territory. If we ever have the possibility of liberating our island by military means be sure we will take that possibility and we will have every right to do it. You are only illegally occupying the north part of Cyprus which belongs to Republic of Cyprus, and RoC has every right to defend its own territory from foreign invaders.

[BirKibrisli]

Unlike Piratis, who seems to think that “you go there and we go here” policies (BBF/BBC/etc) is the solution, I’m convinced that “Turkish Cypriots” can NEVER blend in with the indigenous Cypriots in any way or form, so I for one am not prepared to make any special arrangements for them.

Turkey will ALWAYS be a constant problem to Cyprus unless she is militarily confronted, which will result in the loss of many lives but treaties will then be established to force Turkey to (1)TAKE HER PEOPLE back to where they belong, and (2) respect the indigenous people here and their homeland.

There is no other solution if the indigenous people of Cyprus are the priority as they should be.

And what if the next military confrontation with Turkey results in even greater catastrophy for the "indigenous Cypriots" as you call them...Who will take the responsibility for that??? YOU???

I’d rather die fighting taking out plenty of Turks in the process, than allow them the gradual but certain strangulation of Cyprus and her people.

I don’t just think about today or the next ten years, but what will be happening on Cyprus in 50 or 100 years time to our children and unless we do something drastic today Turkification is guaranteed!

You are a brainwashed twit. If it's death you are after, it can be arranged, but what is this selfishness of taking others with you all about. How bloody selfish can you get.

Some time ago,Americans devised a fail-safe way of saving the Vietnamees from communism...they killed as many of them as they could...GR seems to be following in the Americans' footsteps...

It seems that is the same plan they implemented in Iraq and Afghanistan. Will they ever learn.

No,and neither will the fanatical GCs like GR! and Piratis

[Piratis]

You got it in REVERSE. I hope you made that comment before thinking about it too much, otherwise your IQ must be quite low.

If the TCs who are the 18% of the population keep the 29% of the land, then in order for those TCs to be the majority in that 29% it requires that:
(1) all TCs stay within that 29%.
(2) that not all GCs return to their homes.

GCs have been the 82% majority in all parts of Cyprus. The 29% of 82% is almost 24%. So if all GC refugees would return to their homes then the GCs would be the majority in the "TC state" as well, even if every single TC stayed in the "TC state".

On the other hand the 18% of 82% is less than 15%. So even if all refugees return to that 18% State, the TCs can still be the majority in it, even if some of them choose to live in the "GC state".

As far as "fitting" goes, they will fit even easier since the population density will not be any higher than what you have now with the 100s of thousands of Settlers and the 40.000 Turkish troops.

So cut the lame excuses Bir. YOU are one who doesn't want GCs and TCs to live together and who wants partition. The ultimate in living together is a unitary state with no kind of separation and segregation.

But "living together" is not what you want. What you want is to Turkify as much of Cyprus as possible.

You are right Piratis...I do sufer from a low IQ...I am after all a Turkish Cypriot...You have finally worked me out...I want to Turkify as much of Cyprus as possible...Given that your IQ is so high,why did it take you all this time to figure that out???

Because in the past you supported different things. I can't read your mind, I can only read what you write in the forum. How would I know that all these years you were lying to us?

When you said things such as: "I want Talat to agree to negotiate on Makarios' 13 points to find a mutually agreed compromise on the proper functioning of OUR TRUE CYPRIOT REPUBLIC" I believed that you meant it. It is not my fault if now you changed and you turned into a partitionist like Viewpoint.

[Piratis]

Unlike Piratis, who seems to think that “you go there and we go here” policies (BBF/BBC/etc) is the solution, I’m convinced that “Turkish Cypriots” can NEVER blend in with the indigenous Cypriots in any way or form, so I for one am not prepared to make any special arrangements for them.

Turkey will ALWAYS be a constant problem to Cyprus unless she is militarily confronted, which will result in the loss of many lives but treaties will then be established to force Turkey to (1)TAKE HER PEOPLE back to where they belong, and (2) respect the indigenous people here and their homeland.

There is no other solution if the indigenous people of Cyprus are the priority as they should be.

And what if the next military confrontation with Turkey results in even greater catastrophy for the "indigenous Cypriots" as you call them...Who will take the responsibility for that??? YOU???

I’d rather die fighting taking out plenty of Turks in the process, than allow them the gradual but certain strangulation of Cyprus and her people.

I don’t just think about today or the next ten years, but what will be happening on Cyprus in 50 or 100 years time to our children and unless we do something drastic today Turkification is guaranteed!

You are a brainwashed twit. If it's death you are after, it can be arranged, but what is this selfishness of taking others with you all about. How bloody selfish can you get.

Some time ago,Americans devised a fail-safe way of saving the Vietnamees from communism...they killed as many of them as they could...GR seems to be following in the Americans' footsteps...

It seems that is the same plan they implemented in Iraq and Afghanistan. Will they ever learn.

No,and neither will the fanatical GCs like GR! and Piratis

"Fanatical" in the same way as those "fanatical" Vietnamese who fought against the invaders of their country.

[BirKibrisli]

Unlike Piratis, who seems to think that “you go there and we go here” policies (BBF/BBC/etc) is the solution, I’m convinced that “Turkish Cypriots” can NEVER blend in with the indigenous Cypriots in any way or form, so I for one am not prepared to make any special arrangements for them.

Turkey will ALWAYS be a constant problem to Cyprus unless she is militarily confronted, which will result in the loss of many lives but treaties will then be established to force Turkey to (1)TAKE HER PEOPLE back to where they belong, and (2) respect the indigenous people here and their homeland.

There is no other solution if the indigenous people of Cyprus are the priority as they should be.

And what if the next military confrontation with Turkey results in even greater catastrophy for the "indigenous Cypriots" as you call them...Who will take the responsibility for that??? YOU???

I’d rather die fighting taking out plenty of Turks in the process, than allow them the gradual but certain strangulation of Cyprus and her people.

I don’t just think about today or the next ten years, but what will be happening on Cyprus in 50 or 100 years time to our children and unless we do something drastic today Turkification is guaranteed!

You are a brainwashed twit. If it's death you are after, it can be arranged, but what is this selfishness of taking others with you all about. How bloody selfish can you get.

Some time ago,Americans devised a fail-safe way of saving the Vietnamees from communism...they killed as many of them as they could...GR seems to be following in the Americans' footsteps...

Again you got in reverse. The Americans were the foreign invaders in Vietnam, just like the Turks are the foreign invaders in Cyprus.

The Cypriot people have every right to fight against the foreign invaders to liberate their own territory. If we ever have the possibility of liberating our island by military means be sure we will take that possibility and we will have every right to do it. You are only illegally occupying the north part of Cyprus which belongs to Republic of Cyprus, and RoC has every right to defend its own territory from foreign invaders.

I cant help it ,Piratis...People with low IQ always get everything in Reverse...for example,I think the demand for Enosis came before Taksim...and EOKA was formed before the TMT...I must be wrong of course,because you say so...

Good luck with your little war effort to liberate Cyprus...You and GR remind me of Don Quishote and Sancho Panza...You would be Don Quishote,but I have probably got that in Reverse too...

[Piratis]

Unlike Piratis, who seems to think that “you go there and we go here” policies (BBF/BBC/etc) is the solution, I’m convinced that “Turkish Cypriots” can NEVER blend in with the indigenous Cypriots in any way or form, so I for one am not prepared to make any special arrangements for them.

Turkey will ALWAYS be a constant problem to Cyprus unless she is militarily confronted, which will result in the loss of many lives but treaties will then be established to force Turkey to (1)TAKE HER PEOPLE back to where they belong, and (2) respect the indigenous people here and their homeland.

There is no other solution if the indigenous people of Cyprus are the priority as they should be.

And what if the next military confrontation with Turkey results in even greater catastrophy for the "indigenous Cypriots" as you call them...Who will take the responsibility for that??? YOU???

I’d rather die fighting taking out plenty of Turks in the process, than allow them the gradual but certain strangulation of Cyprus and her people.

I don’t just think about today or the next ten years, but what will be happening on Cyprus in 50 or 100 years time to our children and unless we do something drastic today Turkification is guaranteed!

You are a brainwashed twit. If it's death you are after, it can be arranged, but what is this selfishness of taking others with you all about. How bloody selfish can you get.

Some time ago,Americans devised a fail-safe way of saving the Vietnamees from communism...they killed as many of them as they could...GR seems to be following in the Americans' footsteps...

Again you got in reverse. The Americans were the foreign invaders in Vietnam, just like the Turks are the foreign invaders in Cyprus.

The Cypriot people have every right to fight against the foreign invaders to liberate their own territory. If we ever have the possibility of liberating our island by military means be sure we will take that possibility and we will have every right to do it. You are only illegally occupying the north part of Cyprus which belongs to Republic of Cyprus, and RoC has every right to defend its own territory from foreign invaders.

I cant help it ,Piratis...People with low IQ always get everything in Reverse...for example,I think the demand for Enosis came before Taksim...and EOKA was formed before the TMT...I must be wrong of course,because you say so...

Good luck with your little war effort to liberate Cyprus...You and GR remind me of Don Quishote and Sancho Panza...You would be Don Quishote,but I have probably got that in Reverse too...

What came first was the Ottoman invasion and occupation. Enosis was the means that the Cypriot people would achieve their liberation from the foreign oppressors.

There would be no need for enosis and EOKA, if you allowed Cyprus to be part of the first Greek Republic formed after the revolution of 1821, which is what the Cypriot people wanted.

But just like you do now, back then you again wanted to Turkify as much of Cyprus as possible. It was possible for you to keep the 100% of it enslaved, and so you did. Now you are down to 36%. Be sure Cyprus will be fully liberated one day either you like it or not.

War was not my choice but yours. What we have now is cease fire, not peace, because Turkey invaded our island.

Now we have a cold war, and you are losing it. At the right time be sure you will lose the "hot war" as well.

The war you started in 1974 can not end in any other way than with the liberation of Cyprus.

[BirKibrisli]

You got it in REVERSE. I hope you made that comment before thinking about it too much, otherwise your IQ must be quite low.

If the TCs who are the 18% of the population keep the 29% of the land, then in order for those TCs to be the majority in that 29% it requires that:
(1) all TCs stay within that 29%.
(2) that not all GCs return to their homes.

GCs have been the 82% majority in all parts of Cyprus. The 29% of 82% is almost 24%. So if all GC refugees would return to their homes then the GCs would be the majority in the "TC state" as well, even if every single TC stayed in the "TC state".

On the other hand the 18% of 82% is less than 15%. So even if all refugees return to that 18% State, the TCs can still be the majority in it, even if some of them choose to live in the "GC state".

As far as "fitting" goes, they will fit even easier since the population density will not be any higher than what you have now with the 100s of thousands of Settlers and the 40.000 Turkish troops.

So cut the lame excuses Bir. YOU are one who doesn't want GCs and TCs to live together and who wants partition. The ultimate in living together is a unitary state with no kind of separation and segregation.

But "living together" is not what you want. What you want is to Turkify as much of Cyprus as possible.

You are right Piratis...I do sufer from a low IQ...I am after all a Turkish Cypriot...You have finally worked me out...I want to Turkify as much of Cyprus as possible...Given that your IQ is so high,why did it take you all this time to figure that out???

Because in the past you supported different things. I can't read your mind, I can only read what you write in the forum. How would I know that all these years you were lying to us?

When you said things such as: "I want Talat to agree to negotiate on Makarios' 13 points to find a mutually agreed compromise on the proper functioning of OUR TRUE CYPRIOT REPUBLIC" I believed that you meant it. It is not my fault if now you changed and you turned into a partitionist like Viewpoint.

I meant it alright...But I realised the GCs have no intention of inviting the TCs to return to their rightful place in the RoC...I also realised you fanatical GC people are only interested in keeping the TCs in their right place,away from your own people,preferably in isolated enclaves... You are working to achieve partition because you harbour the same anger and hatred towards all things Turkish and TC,just like Sancho Panza...Or was it Don quishote???

[Piratis]

You got it in REVERSE. I hope you made that comment before thinking about it too much, otherwise your IQ must be quite low.

If the TCs who are the 18% of the population keep the 29% of the land, then in order for those TCs to be the majority in that 29% it requires that:
(1) all TCs stay within that 29%.
(2) that not all GCs return to their homes.

GCs have been the 82% majority in all parts of Cyprus. The 29% of 82% is almost 24%. So if all GC refugees would return to their homes then the GCs would be the majority in the "TC state" as well, even if every single TC stayed in the "TC state".

On the other hand the 18% of 82% is less than 15%. So even if all refugees return to that 18% State, the TCs can still be the majority in it, even if some of them choose to live in the "GC state".

As far as "fitting" goes, they will fit even easier since the population density will not be any higher than what you have now with the 100s of thousands of Settlers and the 40.000 Turkish troops.

So cut the lame excuses Bir. YOU are one who doesn't want GCs and TCs to live together and who wants partition. The ultimate in living together is a unitary state with no kind of separation and segregation.

But "living together" is not what you want. What you want is to Turkify as much of Cyprus as possible.

You are right Piratis...I do sufer from a low IQ...I am after all a Turkish Cypriot...You have finally worked me out...I want to Turkify as much of Cyprus as possible...Given that your IQ is so high,why did it take you all this time to figure that out???

Because in the past you supported different things. I can't read your mind, I can only read what you write in the forum. How would I know that all these years you were lying to us?

When you said things such as: "I want Talat to agree to negotiate on Makarios' 13 points to find a mutually agreed compromise on the proper functioning of OUR TRUE CYPRIOT REPUBLIC" I believed that you meant it. It is not my fault if now you changed and you turned into a partitionist like Viewpoint.

I meant it alright...But I realised the GCs have no intention of inviting the TCs to return to their rightful place in the RoC...I also realised you fanatical GC people are only interested in keeping the TCs in their right place,away from your own people,preferably in isolated enclaves... You are working to achieve partition because you harbour the same anger and hatred towards all things Turkish and TC,just like Sancho Panza...Or was it Don quishote???

The case of Don Quixote fits you perfectly actually, since you imagine dangers that are not there. When did I ever talk about keeping TCs isolated into enclaves? You imagine such things just to justify your criminal position.

What I talk about is equal Cypriots without racist discriminations and with the 100% of their human rights, free without any segregation and divisions to live anywhere in their own island that they want.

The fact is that you are not the same Bir as you have been some years ago. You can give any lame excuse you want as to the reasons of your change, but the fact remains that you did change, and there is no way you can deny this.

I, on the other hand, remain stable in supporting universal values such as democracy and human rights, without racist divisions and segregation (although I am willing to accept a few of those things as a compromise)