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[BirKibrisli]

Sorry Kikapu, but most Turkish Cypriots are just plain stupid as demonstrated here by Bir! He doesn’t get it and he never will…

And you think yourself very intelligent I suppose...
I don't want to get your snake oil,but with your level of intelligence,you will one day get what is coming to you...History-denial and repetition of insults will only get you into more and more trouble...If only your alcohol-soaked feeble brain could see that...

Kikapu, couldn’t have made it any clearer!

THERE IS NO INCENTIVE!

Do you now understand?

GR! Just read my posts when your brain is not suffering from too much alcohol...Kikapu got it wrong...The TC red lines are not related to the size of the TC constituent state...The incentive is that you stand to lose all 37% and possibly much more in the future...A new new world order is coming,but you are too preoccupied with your hatred of Turkey and the TCs to see it...The coming Islamic Republic of Turkey will make you wish you had accepted the AP back in 2004...It was the best deal you would ever get...It is all downhill for you from now on...But as I said your alcoholic haze will not let you see beyond the anger and hatred in your heart...

Bir, you are talking bullshit my friend. If those were the only Turkish "red lines" then we would have come to an agreement long long time ago.

Not only the TCs demand disproportionally large amounts of territory but they also demand disproportionally large amounts of power as well.

Basically they want to give us 8% of our own land back, and in return keep officially and legally the rest 29% that they stole from us, while at the same time go from 0% to 50% for the power sharing. Not a good deal for us at all.

Not only that, but you got the risk for the future in reverse.

Today and with the current status Turkey can create no excuse to intervene in the free parts of Cyprus. With a solution where she maintains her "guarantees" it will be much easier, and she can use the TC minority and her settlers to create problems as she did in 1963, as an excuse to invade again. Furthermore, with the TCs controlling the north coast of Cyprus, and with no kind of strict control between the "TC State" and the "GC state", it will be much easier for Turkey to float the whole of Cyprus with Anatolians.

So forget it if you think we will ever accept anything like Annan plan. there is no chance in a billion we will do that.

You have repeated it so many times that you must really believe it now,Piratis...It wasn't Turkey or the TCs who caused trouble in 1963...It was the GCs with their stupid demand for Enosis with Greece,and Makarios' fancy footwork to make it happen...
Keep on with your delusions and your paranoia,you are playing straight into Turkey's hands,arms,embrace...

[BirKibrisli]

By the way, I can't way for the "Islamic Republic of Turkey" to happen. That is the best thing that can happen for Greece and Cyprus and it will change the balance of power in the region in our favor.

Are you sure???
It is America that is creating the new superpower in the Middle East...
The Islamic Republic of Turkey...The Americans believe they will be moderately Islamic hence provide good leadership to the other more radical Islamic countries...The Americans will not hesitate to sacrifice Cyprus to advance their own interests in the region...You do not doubt that I hope...

[apc2010]

By the way, I can't way for the "Islamic Republic of Turkey" to happen. That is the best thing that can happen for Greece and Cyprus and it will change the balance of power in the region in our favor.

Are you sure???
It is America that is creating the new superpower in the Middle East...
The Islamic Republic of Turkey...The Americans believe they will be moderately Islamic hence provide good leadership to the other more radical Islamic countries...The Americans will not hesitate to sacrifice Cyprus to advance their own interests in the region...You do not doubt that I hope...

the same superpower that just voted on genocide...........

[Nikitas]

A "new superpower in the Middle East". It reminds me of those interviews boradcast in England in the early 70 showing a smug Shah of Iran tellings us how Iran was the fifth ranking military power in the world, how western workers were lazy, how Iran was rapidly industrialiszing and soon would be outproducing Germany.

The Shah was more prowestern than any Turkish politician today. He was dropped like garbage when his time was up.

Nothing is static in the world. Centers of importance change fast.

[repulsewarrior]

...it may be that Turkey will become an Islamic Democratic State. and it may be that she may give Europe an entirely acceptable outlook to welcome as well; the last 35 (or fifty) still needs a great change in our thinking. it is not about one side compromising, or the other; it is about Human Betterment and about the service we give toward a higher purpose beyond ourselves, there is no reason to believe that this kind of thinking can't happen anywhere.

cheers!

[Bananiot]

The worst thing that can happen to Cyprus is the creation of an Islamic Republic of Turkey. The best thing that can happen to Cyprus is the creation of a modern Turkish Republic, full member of the European Union. This simple fact cannot be seen by the GC fanatics of this forum who are still hoping for the disintegration of Turkey.

[Piratis]

Sorry Kikapu, but most Turkish Cypriots are just plain stupid as demonstrated here by Bir! He doesn’t get it and he never will…

And you think yourself very intelligent I suppose...
I don't want to get your snake oil,but with your level of intelligence,you will one day get what is coming to you...History-denial and repetition of insults will only get you into more and more trouble...If only your alcohol-soaked feeble brain could see that...

Kikapu, couldn’t have made it any clearer!

THERE IS NO INCENTIVE!

Do you now understand?

GR! Just read my posts when your brain is not suffering from too much alcohol...Kikapu got it wrong...The TC red lines are not related to the size of the TC constituent state...The incentive is that you stand to lose all 37% and possibly much more in the future...A new new world order is coming,but you are too preoccupied with your hatred of Turkey and the TCs to see it...The coming Islamic Republic of Turkey will make you wish you had accepted the AP back in 2004...It was the best deal you would ever get...It is all downhill for you from now on...But as I said your alcoholic haze will not let you see beyond the anger and hatred in your heart...

Bir, you are talking bullshit my friend. If those were the only Turkish "red lines" then we would have come to an agreement long long time ago.

Not only the TCs demand disproportionally large amounts of territory but they also demand disproportionally large amounts of power as well.

Basically they want to give us 8% of our own land back, and in return keep officially and legally the rest 29% that they stole from us, while at the same time go from 0% to 50% for the power sharing. Not a good deal for us at all.

Not only that, but you got the risk for the future in reverse.

Today and with the current status Turkey can create no excuse to intervene in the free parts of Cyprus. With a solution where she maintains her "guarantees" it will be much easier, and she can use the TC minority and her settlers to create problems as she did in 1963, as an excuse to invade again. Furthermore, with the TCs controlling the north coast of Cyprus, and with no kind of strict control between the "TC State" and the "GC state", it will be much easier for Turkey to float the whole of Cyprus with Anatolians.

So forget it if you think we will ever accept anything like Annan plan. there is no chance in a billion we will do that.

You have repeated it so many times that you must really believe it now,Piratis...It wasn't Turkey or the TCs who caused trouble in 1963...It was the GCs with their stupid demand for Enosis with Greece,and Makarios' fancy footwork to make it happen...
Keep on with your delusions and your paranoia,you are playing straight into Turkey's hands,arms,embrace...

What was stupid was your invasions against our island, not our right to be liberated like every other Greek island.

Furthermore in 1963 there was no demand for enosis, but democratic reforms that would remove from you some of the Ottoman Style privileges that you gained on our expense by collaborating with foreign Imperialists.

We are not going to let your small minority have such Ottoman kind of power and privileges over our island again. You will remain isolated in that one third of Cyprus and continue paying the price of your crimes, until you learn your lesson and accept to respect human rights and democracy.

[Piratis]

By the way, I can't way for the "Islamic Republic of Turkey" to happen. That is the best thing that can happen for Greece and Cyprus and it will change the balance of power in the region in our favor.

Are you sure???
It is America that is creating the new superpower in the Middle East...
The Islamic Republic of Turkey...The Americans believe they will be moderately Islamic hence provide good leadership to the other more radical Islamic countries...The Americans will not hesitate to sacrifice Cyprus to advance their own interests in the region...You do not doubt that I hope...

"moderately Islamic" is what Turkey is today. Apparently you are talking about something different, which is way less moderate, otherwise you wouldn't threaten us with it.

The US in the past has funded and supported several other Muslim countries and leaderships, including Iran of the Shah, Iraq with Saddam, and even Bin Laden in Afghanistan.

If Turkey turns into an "Islamic Republic" with the illusion that they are a super-power, then I see Turkey going down really really fast. So I really do hope it happens.

[Piratis]

The worst thing that can happen to Cyprus is the creation of an Islamic Republic of Turkey. The best thing that can happen to Cyprus is the creation of a modern Turkish Republic, full member of the European Union. This simple fact cannot be seen by the GC fanatics of this forum who are still hoping for the disintegration of Turkey.

And of course you are not hoping for the disintegration of Turkey. Right? You rather see the disintegration of Republic of Cyprus, like it would have happened if we had accepted the Annan plan.

[Bananiot]

You couldn't get more stupid than this Piratis. So, you think that serious political thinkers build their cases on wishful thinking ... one can only laugh.