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B25 is a n extremist hardliner who hates anything remotely Turkish.

[YFred]

GR thinks that

rather than waste time and money with a “truth and reconciliation” committee, I’d rather Cyprus pressed on with a unitary, democratic, one-person one-vote, EU Republic for those that are still alive and forget the past.

DT wants us to believe that crimes against the TC community were committed only by an organisation that did not exist in the 60's, that is, EOKA B'. This is just a ridiculous attempt to absolve the guilt of the GC community's involvement in horrific acts of the past. Furthermore, he thinks that

I am taking moderate, forward thinking GC's and pushing them into extremism

because I post my views in a forum that is read by a handful of people. What he means is that he, a moderate and forward thinking person is turning into an extremist, because of my views. Bloody hell!!! He also thinks that I hide atrocities committed by the fanatics of the other side. This is a senseless and totally absurd accusation. I explained many times, ad nuseum, if I may add, that I am here to talk about my community and have no interest whatsoever to engage in a fruitless blame game of the cretin type "we did this but you did five times worse". DT talks about the empathy (not shown on my behalf, he thinks, for those executed at Tziaos. In another thread, some two years ago, I reported on the funeral of Demetris (Kkitros) from my village who was executed at Tziaos in August 1974. His grandson, now a lawyer, spoke at the funeral (Sevgul was there too, by the way) and he said nothing about TC's killing many more than we did. He said that his granddad was executed after the massacres at Aloa and Sandalaris became known and the TC's, in a frenzy, murdered all GC's they were holding at Tziaos. That is empathy for all concerned, sucked in the spiral of the madness created by the nationalists. Can you allow yourself to understand this DT?

DT thinks that Bananiot

constitutes a danger to both communities as far as I'm concerned, because he radicalises GC's and absolves TC's

This is far fetched and totally baseless. Bloody hell, I say again! I have this power to radicalise people and where the hell is it? Perhaps I am superman and I haven't discovered it yet.

DT also claims that

Bananiot, can take his obsessions with hospitals stories, undemocratic governance and foreign guarantees and try to convince a few natives of Papua New Guinea to live this life. All due respect to those tribes people but even they might put up a fight for it.

Probably he is again providing insights to his real beliefs with the above. He calls real traumas experienced by real people "hospital stories" and an attempt by a government to dissolve a Republic "undemocratic governance". He continues to tell tales about me accepting foreign guarantees under any cost and this makes me cautious about a hidden agenda. Perhaps DT is not the moderate and forward thinking chap he wants us to believe he is.

Now to the gist of the whole thing. History will be written properly one day, no doubt. I am more interested in the political repercussions of our short history and this is where I will concentrate on. I started this post with GR for a reason. He and many others in Cyprus believes that it is possible to build a unitary, democratic, one-person one-vote Cyprus. I also think that this is the best that could happen to our island. Only a fool can deny this. However, a much bigger fool, cannot see that the future of any country in this world is shaped by the events of the past. What happened in 1955-1959 brought about the form of independence we achieved in 1960. The events of 1963 and afterwords will shape the solution, if it is ever found by negotiations, of the Cyprus issue. GR thinks that we and the whole world can

forget the past

This is a fallacy conceived by politically uneducated people and of course as long as our struggle is a political one, no serious person will lend an ear to such rubbish.

Quick someone pass me a sick bag, argghhhhh!

And now eat it like dog that you are, scumbag.

[denizaksulu]

What else can Bananiot possibly do in the CyProb but repeat an incident over and over given that the “Turkish Cypriots” have no legs to stand on and he has certain commitments to tend to!

Do you all remember to whom the following accolade belongs to?




Exactly, you got it right, it belongs to Piratis your 'Mentor'. Bananiot has a very long way to go yet. He is a man of guts and despite being hated by the extreme, he sees no reason not to repeat those truths that has hurt the relationships between our two people.

May all the victims of the extremists RIP.

Even a twelve year old can see that Bananiot has his (not so enviable) agenda...

We all have to face facts GR as you always remind us to. Whatever Bananiots agenda is, there ought to be more people like him on both sides ready to admit their own peoples wrongdoings. Would you not like 'a truth and Recociliation Committee' set up? Or d you have too many friends in power who would top the list of the 'guilty' ones. I know, like most of us here that most of the northern leaders would make that list.

Rather than waste time and money with a “truth and reconciliation” committee, I’d rather Cyprus pressed on with a unitary, democratic, one-person one-vote, EU Republic for those that are still alive and forget the past.

On that we both agree GR.

But it is your signature and Mr Gramaphone which keeps on harking to the past. If you had not noticed, I changed my Avatar message referring to 1963, simply because I do not want to keep on referring to the past.

Regards and have a lovely Sunday: I will;Milti will make sure of that.

[YFred]

What else can Bananiot possibly do in the CyProb but repeat an incident over and over given that the “Turkish Cypriots” have no legs to stand on and he has certain commitments to tend to!

Do you all remember to whom the following accolade belongs to?




Exactly, you got it right, it belongs to Piratis your 'Mentor'. Bananiot has a very long way to go yet. He is a man of guts and despite being hated by the extreme, he sees no reason not to repeat those truths that has hurt the relationships between our two people.

May all the victims of the extremists RIP.

Even a twelve year old can see that Bananiot has his (not so enviable) agenda...

We all have to face facts GR as you always remind us to. Whatever Bananiots agenda is, there ought to be more people like him on both sides ready to admit their own peoples wrongdoings. Would you not like 'a truth and Recociliation Committee' set up? Or d you have too many friends in power who would top the list of the 'guilty' ones. I know, like most of us here that most of the northern leaders would make that list.

Rather than waste time and money with a “truth and reconciliation” committee, I’d rather Cyprus pressed on with a unitary, democratic, one-person one-vote, EU Republic for those that are still alive and forget the past.

On that we both agree GR.

But it is your signature and Mr Gramaphone which keeps on harking to the past. If you had not noticed, I changed my Avatar message referring to 1963, simply because I do not want to keep on referring to the past.

Regards and have a lovely Sunday: I will;Milti will make sure of that.

Enjoy your lunch old men, I am having one of my own with a few friends too with the Zivaniya at the centre of the table and all that.
One of them is a GC. Fancy that? I will have to remove all the turkish flags from the walls.

[paliometoxo]

B25 is a n extremist hardliner who hates anything remotely Turkish.

just like some of the tcs here like runaway exremist turks who think cyprus is turkish and everything gc should die.. i wish they where the minority but witht he north full of mainland turks they are the majority ..

a few months ago maybe 4 i would of said the same about you but you seem to be one of the good ones open to a good settlment if you where happy that you would be safe living with gcs

[denizaksulu]

What else can Bananiot possibly do in the CyProb but repeat an incident over and over given that the “Turkish Cypriots” have no legs to stand on and he has certain commitments to tend to!

Do you all remember to whom the following accolade belongs to?




Exactly, you got it right, it belongs to Piratis your 'Mentor'. Bananiot has a very long way to go yet. He is a man of guts and despite being hated by the extreme, he sees no reason not to repeat those truths that has hurt the relationships between our two people.

May all the victims of the extremists RIP.

Even a twelve year old can see that Bananiot has his (not so enviable) agenda...

We all have to face facts GR as you always remind us to. Whatever Bananiots agenda is, there ought to be more people like him on both sides ready to admit their own peoples wrongdoings. Would you not like 'a truth and Recociliation Committee' set up? Or d you have too many friends in power who would top the list of the 'guilty' ones. I know, like most of us here that most of the northern leaders would make that list.

Rather than waste time and money with a “truth and reconciliation” committee, I’d rather Cyprus pressed on with a unitary, democratic, one-person one-vote, EU Republic for those that are still alive and forget the past.

On that we both agree GR.

But it is your signature and Mr Gramaphone which keeps on harking to the past. If you had not noticed, I changed my Avatar message referring to 1963, simply because I do not want to keep on referring to the past.

Regards and have a lovely Sunday: I will;Milti will make sure of that.

Enjoy your lunch old men, I am having one of my own with a few friends too with the Zivaniya at the centre of the table and all that.
One of them is a GC. Fancy that? I will have to remove all the turkish flags from the walls.

If they are your true friends they will not worry about what flag you have on the wall.

Enjoy your lunch.

[YFred]

B25 is a n extremist hardliner who hates anything remotely Turkish.

just like some of the tcs here like runaway exremist turks who think cyprus is turkish and everything gc should die.. i wish they where the minority but witht he north full of mainland turks they are the majority ..

Palio, that is a big assumtion that just becasue one is born in Turkey, they are right wing. They are not. Their loyalty is to their family and community like everybody else. They are worried about feeding their family rather than Turkishness or any other ness.

[londoner]

B25 is a n extremist hardliner who hates anything remotely Turkish.

just like some of the tcs here like runaway exremist turks who think cyprus is turkish and everything gc should die.. i wish they where the minority but witht he north full of mainland turks they are the majority ..

a few months ago maybe 4 i would of said the same about you but you seem to be one of the good ones open to a good settlment if you where happy that you would be safe living with gcs

The tragedy of Cyprus is that extremists on both sides, who are in small minorities, have for too long been allowed to poison Cypriot politics. A settlement would make the majority on both sides happy but their voices are always drowned out by extremists

[paliometoxo]

yes you would think that main concern for every family but mostly yes i would agree with you, apart from the honour killings you hear of they seem to put religion first.

[paliometoxo]

B25 is a n extremist hardliner who hates anything remotely Turkish.

just like some of the tcs here like runaway exremist turks who think cyprus is turkish and everything gc should die.. i wish they where the minority but witht he north full of mainland turks they are the majority ..

a few months ago maybe 4 i would of said the same about you but you seem to be one of the good ones open to a good settlment if you where happy that you would be safe living with gcs

The tragedy of Cyprus is that extremists on both sides, who are in small minorities, have for too long been allowed to poison Cypriot politics. A settlement would make the majority on both sides happy but their voices are always drowned out by extremists

no they are and have been the majority on both sides unfortunately, and causing problems in cyprus either wanting to unite with greece enosis or takism wanting to divide and rule, that is why we dont want turkey in cyprus to poison cyprus and to cause problems like they have been doing