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[RichardB]

Whatever figures you look at it makes me wonder why the TCs think they have a right to own a bigger percentage than the GCs. Their Ottoman land-grabs, perhaps? In fact, why should they think they "own" anything.

It ALL belongs to the RoC!

Re Ottoman land grabs ...I prefer the term Anatolian demographic changing settlers as my prefered wording

and, I also believe the land is the property of the person named on the pre 74 title deeds be they TC, GC or Other , The only true and legal owner is the person on these deeds

Don't be silly Richard. It all belongs to them. Yeap, you'll get all of it dearest Oracle.



Ela gori en galon braman.

Very mature Fred

Guess thats why you're gradually losing any credability on forum

[YFred]

Whatever figures you look at it makes me wonder why the TCs think they have a right to own a bigger percentage than the GCs. Their Ottoman land-grabs, perhaps? In fact, why should they think they "own" anything.

It ALL belongs to the RoC!

Re Ottoman land grabs ...I prefer the term Anatolian demographic changing settlers as my prefered wording

and, I also believe the land is the property of the person named on the pre 74 title deeds be they TC, GC or Other , The only true and legal owner is the person on these deeds

Don't be silly Richard. It all belongs to them. Yeap, you'll get all of it dearest Oracle.



Ela gori en galon braman.

Very mature Fred

Guess thats why you're gradually losing any credibility on forum

I never sought credibility Richards, BTW remark was not for you I hope you realise that.

[RichardB]

Whatever figures you look at it makes me wonder why the TCs think they have a right to own a bigger percentage than the GCs. Their Ottoman land-grabs, perhaps? In fact, why should they think they "own" anything.

It ALL belongs to the RoC!

Re Ottoman land grabs ...I prefer the term Anatolian demographic changing settlers as my prefered wording

and, I also believe the land is the property of the person named on the pre 74 title deeds be they TC, GC or Other , The only true and legal owner is the person on these deeds

Don't be silly Richard. It all belongs to them. Yeap, you'll get all of it dearest Oracle.



Ela gori en galon braman.

Very mature Fred

Guess thats why you're gradually losing any credibility on forum

I never sought credibility Richards, BTW remark was not for you I hope you realise that.

Yes Fred I speak Greek (probably like a Luriciati)

But why post if you dont want to post with any (percieved) credability

[Get Real!]

Evidence, however,...

What evidence?

When it comes to Lands and Surveys on Cyprus, there is only ONE recognized authority that has been in operation since 1858; the origins of which was the Ottoman Land Code “Medjelle” which was then passed on to the British in 1878 who in turn modernized it with…

1907: The Immovable Property Registration and Valuation Law

1946: The Immovable Property (Tenure Registration and Valuation) Law

…and finally in 1960 the Department of Lands and Surveys was passed on to the new RoC government.

“The Department of Lands and Surveys of Cyprus of the Ministry of the Interior, is the oldest governmental department of the public sector, and started its operations in the year 1858.”

http://library.tee.gr/digital/m2267/m2267_neocleous.pdf

The official site is here…

http://www.moi.gov.cy/moi/dls/dls.nsf/d ... enDocument

Land Ownership by Ethnic Group:

60.9% - Greek/Armenian/Maronite Cypriots
12.3% - Turkish Cypriots
0.5% - Others
26.3% - State/Church Land

Source: Department of Lands and Surveys (refer to Annex 14 in Volume II of the "Memorandum by the Minister of Foreign Affairs of the Republic of Cyprus" submitted to the Foreign Affairs Committee of the House of Commons, 27 February 1987.

As for credible population and other statistics you can get from the Library of Congress here…

http://lcweb2.loc.gov/frd/cs/cyprus/cy_appen.html


…but your “Norwegian” friends AYLA GÜREL & KUDRET ÖZERSAY, use a bunch of Turkish references! (see the end of their report)

[YFred]

Evidence, however,...

What evidence?

When it comes to Lands and Surveys on Cyprus, there is only ONE recognized authority that has been in operation since 1858; the origins of which was the Ottoman Land Code “Medjelle” which was then passed on to the British in 1878 who in turn modernized it with…

1907: The Immovable Property Registration and Valuation Law

1946: The Immovable Property (Tenure Registration and Valuation) Law

…and finally in 1960 the Department of Lands and Surveys was passed on to the new RoC government.

“The Department of Lands and Surveys of Cyprus of the Ministry of the Interior, is the oldest governmental department of the public sector, and started its operations in the year 1858.”

http://library.tee.gr/digital/m2267/m2267_neocleous.pdf

The official site is here…

http://www.moi.gov.cy/moi/dls/dls.nsf/d ... enDocument

Land Ownership by Ethnic Group:

60.9% - Greek/Armenian/Maronite Cypriots
12.3% - Turkish Cypriots
0.5% - Others
26.3% - State/Church Land

Source: Department of Lands and Surveys (refer to Annex 14 in Volume II of the "Memorandum by the Minister of Foreign Affairs of the Republic of Cyprus" submitted to the Foreign Affairs Committee of the House of Commons, 27 February 1987.

As for credible population and other statistics you can get from the Library of Congress here…

http://lcweb2.loc.gov/frd/cs/cyprus/cy_appen.html


…but your “Norwegian” friends AYLA GÜREL & KUDRET ÖZERSAY, use a bunch of Turkish references! (see the end of their report)

Where is Kifeas when you need him. He told you a million times not to say those figures and you keep making the same mistake. When will you learn?

[londoner]

The evidence comes from Cypriot Government data and the analysis is not provided by Norwegians but my Richard A Patrick a Canadian political geographer and was published from research into his PHd (Political Geography and the Cyprus Conflict 1963-1971). It amazes me that people cannot be open minded enough to look at research without dismissing anything purely because its written by a Turk or a Greek.

[observer]

The evidence comes from Cypriot Government data and the analysis is not provided by Norwegians but my Richard A Patrick a Canadian political geographer and was published from research into his PHd (Political Geography and the Cyprus Conflict 1963-1971). It amazes me that people cannot be open minded enough to look at research without dismissing anything purely because its written by a Turk or a Greek.

It amazes me that it amazes you, but then you haven't been here very long have you?

[londoner]

The evidence comes from Cypriot Government data and the analysis is not provided by Norwegians but my Richard A Patrick a Canadian political geographer and was published from research into his PHd (Political Geography and the Cyprus Conflict 1963-1971). It amazes me that people cannot be open minded enough to look at research without dismissing anything purely because its written by a Turk or a Greek.

It amazes me that it amazes you, but then you haven't been here very long have you?

Thanks observer - thankfully some people have a genuinely open mind and are not full of hatred and bitterness

[YFred]

The evidence comes from Cypriot Government data and the analysis is not provided by Norwegians but my Richard A Patrick a Canadian political geographer and was published from research into his PHd (Political Geography and the Cyprus Conflict 1963-1971). It amazes me that people cannot be open minded enough to look at research without dismissing anything purely because its written by a Turk or a Greek.

It amazes me that it amazes you, but then you haven't been here very long have you?

Thanks observer - thankfully some people have a genuinely open mind and are not full of hatred and bitterness

We will find out if the next referendum happens, so long as Muhtar X does not turn into a Tpapa and starts crying on TV for 2 hours begging people not to vote for an agreement he negotiated.