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Postby umit07 » Thu Mar 04, 2010 1:55 pm

Epiktitos, WTF is the point of posting those pic's above? Without doubt when comparing SA, UK and the USA to Australia, this place is by far the best.
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Postby Paphitis » Thu Mar 04, 2010 1:58 pm

umit07 wrote:Epiktitos, WTF is the point of posting those pic's above? Without doubt when comparing SA, UK and the USA to Australia, this place is by far the best.


Apparently a few thugs retaliating against Lebanese for the rape of an Australian girl that dressed provocatively and thus asked to be raped, somehow, makes Australia a racist country. :roll:
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Postby Tim Drayton » Thu Mar 04, 2010 2:06 pm

Pardon me, but am I the only one to detect a certain contradiction between the following two propositions:

"2 coppers from Melbourne, came to our shop to eat, after boozing at the pub. They then, for some reason, began some racial innuendos which upset my old man."

"If Australia was racist, they would not allow over 280,000 immigrants per year."
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Postby Epiktitos » Thu Mar 04, 2010 2:11 pm

Paphitis wrote:Apparently a few thugs retaliating against Lebanese for the rape of an Australian girl that dressed provocatively and thus asked to be raped, somehow, makes Australia a racist country

I can see that you've reached grandmaster level and no longer need to be baited into saying stupid things.
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Postby Paphitis » Thu Mar 04, 2010 2:20 pm

Tim Drayton wrote:Pardon me, but am I the only one to detect a certain contradiction between the following two propositions:

"2 coppers from Melbourne, came to our shop to eat, after boozing at the pub. They then, for some reason, began some racial innuendos which upset my old man."

"If Australia was racist, they would not allow over 280,000 immigrants per year."


Well, all this happened many years ago, and in a very small Australian town to boot. Things were very different then.

Australia is a very different place these days, with no more racism than any other nation of the world. In fact, it is quite amazing the cohesion within Australian society between people of all kinds of backgrounds. Here, you could have a GC live next door to a TC with no problems at all. The same can be said about many more ethnicities.

My previous post was a very brief description of one of my experiences growing up in a small Aussie town. Naturally, I have experienced other isolated instances of racism, far less brutal than the one depicted above.

But having said all this, I am quite forgiving and am grateful that Australia has turned things around. And despite my own arrogance, and behavior, which also left a lot to be desired, Australia has given me a second chance and I am very happy with the opportunities and privileges the country has given me as an Australian born person of Cypriot heritage. Who would of thought!

I don't think you would find anyone unhappy about Australia in this day and age.

But I believe you have quoted 2 isolated posts of mine. One talking about the Australia of the past, and the other talking about the Australia of today.
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Postby Epiktitos » Thu Mar 04, 2010 2:20 pm

umit07 wrote:Epiktitos, WTF is the point of posting those pic's above? Without doubt when comparing SA, UK and the USA to Australia, this place is by far the best.

I wouldn't know. I seem to hear a lot about indian students getting bashed and killed down in Victoria...is that where paphitis is from?
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Postby Paphitis » Thu Mar 04, 2010 2:26 pm

Epiktitos wrote:
umit07 wrote:Epiktitos, WTF is the point of posting those pic's above? Without doubt when comparing SA, UK and the USA to Australia, this place is by far the best.

I wouldn't know. I seem to hear a lot about indian students getting bashed and killed down in Victoria...is that where paphitis is from?


One Indian university student got murdered causing a massive diplomatic incident between Australia and India.

We are very sorry that this would happen here. And all Australians feel the same way.

Just last year, a Cypriot was murdered where I live, but this does not make the country racist against Cypriots.
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Postby Oracle » Thu Mar 04, 2010 2:38 pm

Wingnut wrote:Interesting thread Oracle.

I spent some time in Australia, I found the intense and dark undercurrent of racism in that society very, very disturbing.

Aussie Cypos I find are not as bright as their UK/US and SA counterparts. I don't know if it is the dumbing down of the culture, too much sun, or what. They just aren't that mentally agile.

Cypriots from South Africa i find tend to have a chip on their shoulder a lot of the time. They were used to living in big houses with Kaffirs waiting on them hand and foot, then they came to Cyprus after apartheid collapsed and were forced to live in normal homes and wipe their own behinds like the rest of us. This tends to make them bitter and they complain a lot about Cyprus. I like them though, they are decent people if a little stiff and humourless.

USA Cypriots assimilate very quickly with the Greek Americans, they lose the Cypriot accent after a while and it comes to the point where you can't tell the kalamarathes from the horkatous in Astoria

UK Cypriots often come divided into two strata: the working class, 'I think i'm black' rudeboy type from Haringey, and the more educated Southgate / Barnet types who study accountancy and stay single and live with mummy until they are 45

One thing for sure: the people who left Cyprus for whatever place over the ages were the best. The very cream of society. The hard workers, the risk takers, the ones who did not take their fate lying down. They upped sticks and endured loneliness, racism and isolation in order to build a better future for themselves and their families.

All the sh1t got left behind on the island. The lazy, the feckless, those who could not be bothered. They sponged off their relatives abroad or got government jobs through meson or set up businesses ripping off tourists.

That's why the repatriatd Cypriots are a different quality (despite the whinging Afrikanous) and far more honest, hardworking and civilized than our local brethren.

We are superior genetic material.

Our parents proved it.


Wingnut ... what keen observations! :D

Sounds like you've been around all the major Cypriot/Greek infested hot spots. I can recognise characters from all your descriptions. :lol:

Great stuff; and yes, we should all be proud of our lineage and the way our forefathers adapted to survive, whether at home or abroad.
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Postby Tim Drayton » Thu Mar 04, 2010 2:41 pm

Paphitis wrote:
Tim Drayton wrote:Pardon me, but am I the only one to detect a certain contradiction between the following two propositions:

"2 coppers from Melbourne, came to our shop to eat, after boozing at the pub. They then, for some reason, began some racial innuendos which upset my old man."

"If Australia was racist, they would not allow over 280,000 immigrants per year."


Well, all this happened many years ago, and in a very small Australian town to boot. Things were very different then.

Australia is a very different place these days, with no more racism than any other nation of the world. In fact, it is quite amazing the cohesion within Australian society between people of all kinds of backgrounds. Here, you could have a GC live next door to a TC with no problems at all. The same can be said about many more ethnicities.

My previous post was a very brief description of one of my experiences growing up in a small Aussie town. Naturally, I have experienced other isolated instances of racism, far less brutal than the one depicted above.

But having said all this, I am quite forgiving and am grateful that Australia has turned things around. And despite my own arrogance, and behavior, which also left a lot to be desired, Australia has given me a second chance and I am very happy with the opportunities and privileges the country has given me as an Australian born person of Cypriot heritage. Who would of thought!

I don't think you would find anyone unhappy about Australia in this day and age.

But I believe you have quoted 2 isolated posts of mine. One talking about the Australia of the past, and the other talking about the Australia of today.


Fair enough. Thanks.
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Postby Paphitis » Thu Mar 04, 2010 2:48 pm

Oracle wrote:
Wingnut wrote:Interesting thread Oracle.

I spent some time in Australia, I found the intense and dark undercurrent of racism in that society very, very disturbing.

Aussie Cypos I find are not as bright as their UK/US and SA counterparts. I don't know if it is the dumbing down of the culture, too much sun, or what. They just aren't that mentally agile.

Cypriots from South Africa i find tend to have a chip on their shoulder a lot of the time. They were used to living in big houses with Kaffirs waiting on them hand and foot, then they came to Cyprus after apartheid collapsed and were forced to live in normal homes and wipe their own behinds like the rest of us. This tends to make them bitter and they complain a lot about Cyprus. I like them though, they are decent people if a little stiff and humourless.

USA Cypriots assimilate very quickly with the Greek Americans, they lose the Cypriot accent after a while and it comes to the point where you can't tell the kalamarathes from the horkatous in Astoria

UK Cypriots often come divided into two strata: the working class, 'I think i'm black' rudeboy type from Haringey, and the more educated Southgate / Barnet types who study accountancy and stay single and live with mummy until they are 45

One thing for sure: the people who left Cyprus for whatever place over the ages were the best. The very cream of society. The hard workers, the risk takers, the ones who did not take their fate lying down. They upped sticks and endured loneliness, racism and isolation in order to build a better future for themselves and their families.

All the sh1t got left behind on the island. The lazy, the feckless, those who could not be bothered. They sponged off their relatives abroad or got government jobs through meson or set up businesses ripping off tourists.

That's why the repatriatd Cypriots are a different quality (despite the whinging Afrikanous) and far more honest, hardworking and civilized than our local brethren.

We are superior genetic material.

Our parents proved it.


Wingnut ... what keen observations! :D

Sounds like you've been around all the major Cypriot/Greek infested hot spots. I can recognise characters from all your descriptions. :lol:

Great stuff; and yes, we should all be proud of our lineage and the way our forefathers adapted to survive, whether at home or abroad.


Of course!

You must be stupid to agree with this rubbish... :lol:
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